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Old 03-11-2024, 12:51 PM
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Anyone who says all chapters at all schools have is automatically an unreliable narrator.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/baltimor...e-park-campus/

Apparently her sisters told her a picture on her instagram wasn't appropriate and she called it hazing, ostracism and cyber bullying. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Old 03-13-2024, 02:16 AM
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This came very shortly after the Kappa Sigma pledge at UVA was placed in a medical coma after falling backwards down their cellar stairs and sustaining a serious head injury. The two schools are in neighboring states and UMD may have panicked upon hearing about the news,especially if there was any chatter about hazing at UMD.
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Old 03-13-2024, 05:00 PM
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Just posted in the University of Maryland Greek Life alumni from the 1980s FB group that I belong to. There have been ongoing discussions on this issue in the group.

Filed by KA, OX, ASP & ATO.
Suit filed in district court against Maryland to lift cease and desist. Check news services. Should be up soon.

(COLLEGE PARK, MD) - A group of students and fraternities are petitioning U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland for a temporary restraining order against administrators at the state's flagship university for their
"decision to unilaterally suspend normal Chapter operations without any suggestion of actual wrongdoing, coupled with the imposition of an ambiguous, vague and overly broad notice that has indefinitely suspended every single Chapter's unrestricted ability to operate, runs afoul to basic notions of due process."
The temporary restraining order would bar the University of Maryland from implementing restrictions on ordinary social and philanthropic activity that administrators outlined in a March 1, 2024, letter addressed to all
"Interfraternity and
Panhellenic Association
Member Organizations."
The notice also demanded that students comply with an open-ended investigation, absent any specific allegations about individuals or their affiliations, or face disciplinary retribution from the university.
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Old 03-13-2024, 05:36 PM
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Someone responded to the post with this, lol:

If the restraining order is not granted, this car may need to make an appearance at the College Park parade on May 4th!

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Old 03-13-2024, 08:02 PM
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Someone responded to the post with this, lol:

If the restraining order is not granted, this car may need to make an appearance at the College Park parade on May 4th!

The image you tried to post isn't coming through. Without the photo, it sounds like a threat to drive into the crowd....
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Old 03-13-2024, 08:52 PM
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It's the Delta Chi "Deathmobile" from the parade at the end of Animal House.

I can see the image in both of our posts, so I wonder if anyone else is having trouble?
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Old 03-15-2024, 12:19 PM
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Fraternities accuse University of Maryland of illegally searching phones, violating rights in Greek life probe

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/baltimor...investigation/
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Old 03-15-2024, 05:44 PM
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The Greek Life Suspension has been lifted, but 5 Fraternities are still under investigation.

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/unive...ities/60216424

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Old 03-16-2024, 05:06 AM
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Absolutely unbelievable. If this doesn't impact their enrollment I'll be shocked.

PS: these kids need to learn they can't search your phone if you don't have it with you.
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Old 03-16-2024, 08:09 AM
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I love what they said here!

"We will continue to pursue litigation against representatives of the University of Maryland for their unlawful behavior in targeting members of fraternities and sororities. Administrators who participated in or were complicit in this egregious erosion of student liberties must be held accountable."
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Old 04-16-2024, 07:11 PM
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Absolutely unbelievable. If this doesn't impact their enrollment I'll be shocked.

PS: these kids need to learn they can't search your phone if you don't have it with you.
They can't search your phone without a warrant.

That's the lesson that needs to be learned here.

The real tragedy is that there has to be some level of trust and professionalism between the Greek orgs on campus and the administration. If you violate that, then you're forcing everything underground.
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Old 04-17-2024, 04:10 AM
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They can't search your phone without a warrant.

That's the lesson that needs to be learned here.

The real tragedy is that there has to be some level of trust and professionalism between the Greek orgs on campus and the administration. If you violate that, then you're forcing everything underground.
Everything already is being done underground for the purpose of hazing. When organizations stop hazing (across the board), then I think that would be the first step to building trust between the two. Until that happens, forget it.
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:43 PM
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Everything already is being done underground for the purpose of hazing. When organizations stop hazing (across the board), then I think that would be the first step to building trust between the two. Until that happens, forget it.
"When ________ people stop committing crimes, that would be the first step to law enforcement searching them and harming them without any particularized suspicion."

Yeah... that's not how anything works.

"Everything is already being done underground" is what you say about UMD. How do you know that is true? And even if it was, how can you ever justify one person of a group being guilty of something means that you can automatically suspect and even penalize others in that group?

If the band hazes, do we suspend field hockey team?
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Old 03-16-2024, 12:08 PM
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The Greek Life Suspension has been lifted, but 5 Fraternities are still under investigation.

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/unive...ities/60216424
That article and others that I've seen indicate that there are 5 groups still under investigation, but no indications that those 5 are all men's groups. (In fact with the fact that this blew up at the same time as that female influencer, I wouldn't be that surprised if a majority of the five still under investigation were women's groups.
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Old 03-16-2024, 01:26 PM
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That article and others that I've seen indicate that there are 5 groups still under investigation, but no indications that those 5 are all men's groups. (In fact with the fact that this blew up at the same time as that female influencer, I wouldn't be that surprised if a majority of the five still under investigation were women's groups.
All five are confirmed by the university to be fraternities.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...ty-ban-lifted/


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Absolutely unbelievable. If this doesn't impact their enrollment I'll be shocked.

PS: these kids need to learn they can't search your phone if you don't have it with you.

The students probably weren't expecting to be asked to have their phones searched. I would have never anticipated that myself. The one news article stated that the consulting firm asked them to show their calendars and such. I suppose, to glean information on what events happened when and where.

What is most horrifying to me is that none of these students were under criminal investigation. The university and "consultants" do not have legal authority to detain the students or search their personal property without consent. Only the police get to do that and, from what I can tell, the students were not being investigated by any law enforcement officers. The university and "consultants" likely used scare tactics such as "If you don't cooperate and give us your phone, you'll get an honor violation and possibly kicked out of college" to coerce these 18-22 year olds into giving consent for their cell phones. Unless there is something in the university policy, I don't even see how they could coerce anyone into showing up for the interviews to start with. You want an interview? Get a warrant! Then the police can invite me in for a little chat. The students were under no obligation to sit there in the interview room. They could have gotten up and walked right out. Otherwise, it's an unlawful detention.

Disgusting! These kids didn't understand their rights and the administrators knew it.
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