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09-06-2002, 09:52 PM
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We had a guy like that at USF. I found out he was in my major and in one of my classes. I almost couldn't hold it in one day.
It was hurricane season and he said all the people on the island nations were asking to die because they didn't do anything about getting out of the storm. I don't know about you, but the last time I checked most of the inhabitants are poor so air fare was probably out of the question and taking a boat into the middle of a hurricane is probably taking your life into your own hands more than trying to sit it out on the island. I'm thinking doesn't make too much sense. Anyway one of my friends had been found dead that day, and all I can think is I know she didn't get up this morning and say please God let me get in an accident and die today - she was also one of the most devout christian people I know. I just left school crying.,
Anyway, he also had all the lines about women wearing shorts, short skirts, and even pants. He even tried to pick a fight with a Muslim. Then someone brought up his past alcoholism and drug addiction along with proliferate fornication. He used the same line about he was saved so it was OK for him to judge...whatever  I guess you just have to laugh them off.
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09-06-2002, 10:00 PM
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I agree that the best way to deal with this is to ignore him. If people stop showing up, then he'll stop showing up, too.
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09-06-2002, 10:02 PM
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I read that Jim guy's "life story". It cracked me up! Do you all think the "Garth" character from "Wayne's World" is based on him???
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09-06-2002, 10:32 PM
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I wonder if this guy dated a sorority girl.....who eventually dumped him for being a whackjob. One just has to wonder what in God's name possessed this guy to go off against Greeks. I mean, seriously, if those things *were* true, who cares? There are still serial killers, baby rapists, and Christina Aguilara running around.
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09-06-2002, 10:48 PM
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I agree with the people who say to ignore him. I'm sure that's not easy and completely understand your frustration with the situation, but he probably enjoys the attention -- he probably finds arguments exciting and enjoys them, because if he didn't, I'm guessing he would be spreading his "word" in a less abrasive manner.
I think that the vast majority of people recognize guys like this for what they are and don't take an ounce of what they say seriously, so I wouldn't worry too much about what he says.
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09-06-2002, 10:50 PM
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Then we quoted, "judge not, yest ye be judged" and he told us that that didn't apply
This man is clearly a fool.
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09-06-2002, 11:15 PM
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I have never had this type of experience on campus. Whenever I encounter that type, I just say. "Thank you. Have a nice day."
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09-06-2002, 11:44 PM
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Hey -- doesn't the Bible have a prescribed punishment for heretics? Can't we stone him or something?
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09-07-2002, 12:50 AM
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Brother Jim
Ah, Brother Jim!
Rest assured, his condemnation is not specific to Greeks whatsoever. He's just hitting that topic on Greek-heavy state campuses because he knows that's what will get the most attention there.
I got to know Brother Jim pretty well when I was dating a guy who went to Oberlin College, which has no Greek system, but which takes enormous pride in its large, open, and accepted queer population. What do you know...Brother Jim didn't have a word to say about Greeks at Oberlin, but he sure had a lot of opinions to share about "f*gs" and "abominations" and the various ways they were going to suffer in hell for loving each other. Needless to say, this got him quite a bit of attention (and provoked some rather colorful counter-demonstrations/love-ins from the local population of drag queens, Goth lesbians, etc.)
Honestly, most Obies agree with Brother Jim about Greek systems, albeit for opposite reasons, so don't take his anti-Greek criticism personally. He's simply about attention-grabbing condemnation of people who join any group he dislikes. He knows people at PSU, KU, etc. hold the Greek system in high esteem, just as Obies prize their tolerant/countercultural self-image, and he goes for the jugular wherever he goes.
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09-07-2002, 01:19 AM
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I really dislike preachers even though I am a proud Catholic. Whenever preachers or outward Christian people go up to me with their "ur goin to hell" crap and their REPENT NOW! attitude I always have just one thing to say.
Matthew 6:5-8 'nuff said
"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. "
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09-07-2002, 02:50 AM
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Yes Panda!
That is one of my favorite verses also and one that i think someone should quote to these nutjobs. We have one that comes to A&M occaisionally, Tom Short i think his name is, but i've never heard him have anything disparaging to say against Greeks. Course, that's probably cuz A&M is not exactly known as a Greek friendly school.
I remember in Daytona last spring break the guys outside all the bars, harassing us as we left, tellin us we were all going to hell and such. It really got em started when i told em to leave me alone, that i'm Catholic and was saved when Jesus died on the Cross for us all.
If they keep botherin me after the Catholic thing, i usually tell em to watch out, cuz once the Pope gives the word, we're takin em all out, Godfather style
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09-07-2002, 03:00 AM
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To Panda on Prozac
I like your slam dunk of this idiot. As a Catholic you might remember that in the pre Vatican II days the Church used to warn against the deadly or capital sins. One of these was "Presumption". Sure sounds like this guy qualifies. To say that this doesn't apply to him because he is not a sinner sounds pretty shakey to me. He presumes a perfection that only the Lord achieved. His words are words of hate (another of those deadly sins) and not the words of one who would serve the Lord's purposes. Remember who said "Non serviam"?
What I don't understand is why these so-called Christians are so quick to condemn so many to hell. As I recall, the message that Jesus taught was one of forgiveness, reconciliation, and redemption. I seem to recall He sought out the sinners and befriended them. He did not berate them. I admire people who live their faith principles and prove their Christianity by their deeds not their words.
I just have to wonder who this guy really serves. I suspect it isn't the Lord. Perhaps the only thing to say to this character is "Retro me, satane"!
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09-07-2002, 03:12 AM
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Ahh...good old Brother Jim.
I can't wait for him to come back to ASU after our little porn scandal.
My freshman year I was walking by and talking on my cell phone. He pointed to me and told me I was going to hell for dressing like a hussy and using a cell phone to deal my drugs and get my sex.
I was talking to my mother.
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09-07-2002, 03:53 AM
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Successfully Won Dozens of Court Battles
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This came off this guys website... does anyone know exactly what sort of cases he was bringing to court??
I would love to see this guy at UCSB.... someone would probably roll a keg down a hill at him!
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09-07-2002, 03:56 AM
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While I've not seen him on my campus, I think that he's, or some friend of his or something, has been in the "bar district" where I come from, which is near 3 colleges. We were down there one night and there is this guy standing on the landscaping bricks. He was reading out of the bible and has some little kid passing out flyers. My friends were all like "What are you doing?" and he was like "Preaching the LORD!" and some of my friends argued like Catholic stuff with him, and he is like "Catholics are going to hell because the pope is just a ploy for money to sponsor sin." I'm not Catholic but that was a little mean. Also he told about his bad stuff he did back in the day and he raced motorbikes or something. What a nut, he even told my friend, who was wearing a cross necklace that god knew that she was a hypocrite, because crosses are a false representations of the LORD! What was he doing looking at her chest in the first place... Another time he was down there, he had the whole family with him, and a big audience that was arguing with him...
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