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Billy Optimist · #16 02-01-2001, 12:22 PM

GOOD LUCK!!!!!

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Miami1839 · #17 02-01-2001, 05:26 PM

Juniorgrrl,

Good Luck!

Kevin

juniorgrrl · #18 02-01-2001, 06:07 PM

Thanks SO MUCH ya'll for all the support. A week from now, it will all be over - hopefully I'll have good news.

#19 02-02-2001, 01:50 AM

Juniorgrrl

I'm rooting for you! Good luck!!!

imsohappythatiama · #20 02-02-2001, 10:48 AM

juniorgrrl:

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!!! I so hope that everything works out for you--you seem like you would be an AMAZING asset to any chapter!

I'm going to be on pins and needles until I find out about your results!!!

Panhellenically,

imsohappythatiama

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Oh, Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
I'm so happy that I am a
Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
Nobody knows . . . how
happy I am!

juniorgrrl · #21 02-02-2001, 04:35 PM

An update of sorts:

Either XYZ *really* wants me or they have bad communication between members. I talked to two different members and confirmed I was attending. One of the members called me again today and I reminded her that I had spoken to her before and that I was definitely coming. While I was at class, I got a call from a *third* member, wanting to know what apartment I was in so they could come pick me up (even though I told them I would drive myself because I will be coming from another activity).

I hate to overanalyze things, but it just seems strange that they keep calling. Although, if they don't remember that they have called me, that's not a good thing either...any ideas ya'll?

imsohappythatiama · #22 02-02-2001, 04:44 PM

Hi juniorgrrl

I don't see any sense in overanalyzing the overlapping communication . . . sometimes that kind of thing happens.

Did you ever find out whether or not the chapter has a definite cut-once, cut-always rule? Or are you just crossing your fingers?

(I'm crossing my fingers for you!!!!)

Try not to stress, although I KNOW that is easier said than done!

When I went through rush, I played Tetris all of the time to take my mind off of all of the possible scenarios that I kept dreaming up--it wasted alot of time, but it kind of kept me sane!!

Best of luck . . . . We're all rooting for you!

-imsohappythatiama

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Oh, Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
I'm so happy that I am a
Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
Nobody knows . . . how
happy I am!

coffeemug · #23 02-02-2001, 10:26 PM

OK I don't want to put damper on you upcoming rush experience....but don't forget this is still a mutual selection process. Don't desire to be in a house that you accept a bid without recognizing some things that I see going on with the chapter you are rushing just by the things you have posted.

It seems they are having serious membership issues. If quota wa 70 and they only took 40 that is almost half a quota. Definately a weaker group. Additionally you have gotten called by THREE members none of whom have communicated very well. THese sound like women who are very desperate for numbers. Depending which national it is I could tell you how much they push numbers (because some nationals will put chapters on membership probation for being size deficient)

Finally if there is problems with attracting women to membership in the chapter it leads to a host of other internatl problems. Sometimes it is hard to tell which came first the membership problems or the internal ones that made the group unattracitve to join. For example if women don't want to join the group than chances are the sorority probably doesn't have that great of a social calendar, will have trouble filling their house etc.

I am sorry to be so blunt and caution you to remember these are just my guesses but I do tons of recruitment work for my group and this chapter is showing signs of weakness.

You can always pursue alum affiliation with groups after college so remember you do have options.

juniorgrrl · #24 02-03-2001, 11:52 AM

I am very aware that the multiple calls show signs of weakness and possible problems. But I am interested in joining this house - their philanthropy is very important to me. Also, I believe I may have exaggerated on the numbers. I checked their member roster on their website and they got maybe about 50 pledges. I'm not sure what quota was, its usually around 70 though.

I'm not sure why they have problems attracting people during formal. They are not the most exclusive sorority, but it is not "bad" by any means.

We'll see how things go tomorrow...

soror6 · #25 02-03-2001, 10:06 PM

juniorgrrl, I know that everyone is giving you advice, and I am sure they are telling you from personal experience-that's a good thing. However, I am going to say a couple of things. First, you probably will not know 99% of the inner workings of a sorority until you are a member. Anything you hear from the outside, including assumptions made by others, are just that-assumptions. You will not know the real deal until you are on the inside, so take that in consideration with what you are hearing. I am assuming that if they were that bad off, you would not want to be a member. Second, a chapter is a part of a national organization, so do not forget the big picture! Take the national platform and the GLO's accomplishments as a whole in consideration as well. They will probably mirror your opinion more. I am not saying that you should join a crappy chapter, because you should'nt. But again, if it was that crappy, I bet you would not want to be part of it. Finally, I gotta go back to the advice I gave you a few days ago...Don't anticipate, Participate! You don't know what the communication problem is, and you probably won't so stop trying to analyze what you probably won't be able to answer!
Have fun, be yourself, and enjoy the process! If you don't like what you see at the end of the process, don't accept the bid! If you do, congratulate yourself on the long and arduous road you have taken, and welcome to greekdom

If you get too stressed, E-mail me. I have been dealing with potential members for 10 years now, so I will share what I can

soror6

juniorgrrl · #26 02-04-2001, 07:46 PM

Okay. So I just got back from the party. It was a combination Ice Water, Craft and House Tour party. It seemed to go really well and I was able to make good conversation with all the girls.

And then I said one of the stupidest things. I mentioned to a girl I lived in the campus apartments, and she said she did too. I asked what building. She told me. I said "oh, i used to live there, in XXXX, but I just moved to a new building" She replied "oh , i heard about that situation" I said "oh really? what did you hear?" she said "oh , i just heard that one of the roomates was really unhappy - I guess it was you." She turned away before I was able to defend my situation.

The people I was living with were downright cruel to me - I would ask them to please stop smoking in the apartment, and to keep things quiet after 1 AM or so, and I was cursed at and yelled at and downright ignored. Any comprimises were broken as soon as the opportunity arose. And now, I have to wonder if they're badmouthing me - and if it will hurt my chances with this group.

I don't know when I will hear anything - if I ever will at all. They never told us. I know their bid day is this friday - so if I hear nothing by then, I'll know.

*sigh* I'm a bit upset because I fear that this whole thing could be ruined on my former roomates' opinions of me.

Allie_XO · #27 02-04-2001, 08:04 PM

While I haven't been on the inside of Rush yet, I do know people. You are probably taking this too seriously. I can't imagine that these girls would judge you on something that they heard from what seem to be (by your description of their behaviour) people of doubtful character. And remember that that girl has only one vote. Also, she may have been sympathizing - and then got called away or saw something that needed her immediate attention. I wouldn't worry about it. What will be, will be!

But I do wish you good luck!!

Allie

imsohappythatiama · #28 02-07-2001, 12:25 PM

juniorgrrl,

Where are you? Have you heard anything from the chapter yet? Keep us posted!

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Oh, Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
I'm so happy that I am a
Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
Nobody knows . . . how
happy I am!

juniorgrrl · #29 02-07-2001, 12:50 PM

I'm still here, trying not to wait for the phone to ring.

The chapter didn't tell us anything about what was going on after the party. I know from their website that Bid Day is Friday and that they didn't have any other parties listed this week. I don't know when I will know anything, if *ever* I'm trying not to think about it too much - I'm taking the LSAT (Law School Admissions Test) on Saturday, and the last thing I need is to be waiting for a phone call that I have a feeling will never come.

I'm sorry to sound so whiney, but I'm just really nervous. This is my 4th time in attempting to join a sorority and I'm just tired of the rejection. Part of me wonders if the sisters were more specific about the schedule of things with the girls they wanted. I know their Chapter meeting was Monday night, so maybe they made some decisions there.

I don't know...but I'll keep ya'll posted. Thank you all so much for the good wishes.

imsohappythatiama · #30 02-07-2001, 12:57 PM

Hi there--

Glad to get the update. Poor you! As if worrying about the LSAT wasn't enough, you've got this hanging over your head too!

You deserve a cheer-me-up break (as my old roommate used to say)--go get some ice cream or something, or buy yourself something cute!

I wish you the absolute best of luck--both on the LSAT, and with Rush . . . you seem like such a nice person, and I'm rooting for you!!!

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Oh, Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
I'm so happy that I am a
Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma,
Nobody knows . . . how
happy I am!