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Old 06-21-2002, 08:25 PM
peepin101 peepin101 is offline
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Question Tight situation (no pun intended)...

I have a question, though....what if the original flight is booked, but the return flight isn't or vice versa. Is the discount going to be applied to the dollar amount for one way? What happens if a flight is not booked on the first leg of the flight, but then at a stop-over airport, it fills up...is the discount forfeited altogether or reduced in some way? (I know y'all probably can't answer these questions, but I wonder if the airlines are really thinking about these things).

And, as has been said, you know the airlines are really hurting...especially, in light of Sept. 11th...so, they are not trying to lose any money "unnecessarily".


I bet all of the people who might be subjected to this policy are probably like ..if it ain't one thing this skinny folks gripin' 'bout, it's another...
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Old 06-21-2002, 08:59 PM
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Re: Tight situation (no pun intended)...

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I have a question, though....what if the original flight is booked, but the return flight isn't or vice versa. Is the discount going to be applied to the dollar amount for one way? What happens if a flight is not booked on the first leg of the flight, but then at a stop-over airport, it fills up...is the discount forfeited altogether or reduced in some way? (I know y'all probably can't answer these questions, but I wonder if the airlines are really thinking about these things).

And, as has been said, you know the airlines are really hurting...especially, in light of Sept. 11th...so, they are not trying to lose any money "unnecessarily".


I bet all of the people who might be subjected to this policy are probably like ..if it ain't one thing this skinny folks gripin' 'bout, it's another...
That's probably why you have to apply for the refund after travel is completed. It will probably be pro-rated accordingly.
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Old 06-22-2002, 01:46 AM
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how 'bout all of those people with screaming, crying, peanut-throwing, seat-kicking, obnoxious, flight-attendant buzzing, playing with the toilet for twenty minutes children and babies? they need to pay for something extra. maybe my earplugs.

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Old 06-22-2002, 08:54 AM
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Warning..this is not a politically correct response. I agree wholeheartly with SW airlines. My child is two now, and I have to pay for a seat for her. She weighs 30 pounds. I weigh about 140, so our weight combined is not that of an obese person and I have to purchase another seat. Remember that the airplanes that SW flies are older models...when America was thinner. What people also need to consider that flying is a privilege, not a constitutionally protected right. I can't pay an extra $500 evey time that I fly to sit in first class, do I have a right to complain, no. There are consequences of not fitting into societal norms. While we may not like the norms, the absence of laws in a society leads to anarchy.

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Old 06-22-2002, 11:23 AM
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how 'bout all of those people with screaming, crying, peanut-throwing, seat-kicking, obnoxious, flight-attendant buzzing, playing with the toilet for twenty minutes children and babies? they need to pay for something extra. maybe my earplugs.

marissa
The powers that be may as well add this to the list too.

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Old 06-22-2002, 11:34 AM
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I agree with Silk in that the 2nd seat should be 1/2 price. I also think that maybe airplanes should be equipped with bigger seats, anyway. And while I understand that they would take up more space or whatever, it would be worth it. Because the seats are too small as it is. I'm a big girl, but hardly obese in the sense that we're talkin' about. And I am uncomfortable in the seats as it is. So I'm REALLY wondering how that person fit next to you, PrettyPoodle. Miserable must be a serious understatement. And perhaps each flight should be equipped with 1 or 2 larger seats on the plane. Now, I do think that the larger seat(s) should cost extra, but not the cost of two seats. It needs to be a win/win situation for both company and customer.
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Old 06-22-2002, 12:24 PM
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This must be a thread full of 100 pound skinny-minnies because a lot of these posts are very harsh. Some of the replies lead me to believe that no one on here is friends with, related to, or even know someone who has a weight problem. I know plenty of people who are obese and the things that they deal with on an average day. To me, making someone purchase an extra seat is a humiliating slap in the face.

When I first read this thread, I thought that there would be more posts against this new policy, especially since most of the people who frequent this board are women. The average American woman is a size 14. My mother is a size 14 and sometimes airplane seats are are little uncomfortable for her. She's hardly obese but imagine how she would feel if she were required to purchase a second seat.

I think it is irresponsible for an airline to give their agents the authority to make someone purchase a second seat. There are no guidelines, they just trust people to use their "judgement." We all know that some people don't have good judgement and one person's idea of fat is totally different from another's. Girls I went to high school with thought that anyone over a size 8 was fat. How many of you are over a size 8? Imagine if one of those girls was the ticket agent and made you purchase a second seat. How would you feel?
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Old 06-22-2002, 05:04 PM
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This must be a thread full of 100 pound skinny-minnies because a lot of these posts are very harsh. Some of the replies lead me to believe that no one on here is friends with, related to, or even know someone who has a weight problem. I know plenty of people who are obese and the things that they deal with on an average day. To me, making someone purchase an extra seat is a humiliating slap in the face.

When I first read this thread, I thought that there would be more posts against this new policy, especially since most of the people who frequent this board are women. The average American woman is a size 14. My mother is a size 14 and sometimes airplane seats are are little uncomfortable for her. She's hardly obese but imagine how she would feel if she were required to purchase a second seat.

I think it is irresponsible for an airline to give their agents the authority to make someone purchase a second seat. There are no guidelines, they just trust people to use their "judgement." We all know that some people don't have good judgement and one person's idea of fat is totally different from another's. Girls I went to high school with thought that anyone over a size 8 was fat. How many of you are over a size 8? Imagine if one of those girls was the ticket agent and made you purchase a second seat. How would you feel?
Ah, we're not all that bad, I promise. I certainly do not weigh 100 lbs myself. So I understand what you mean. BUT, there are guidelines, that is what constitutes a policy. And, if someone is unsure about it, they can call ahead. Or, they can fly another airline. My mommy is a 14, too and has never had any problem getting in or out of a seat on the plane. And I have never had any problem sitting next to her for 4+ hours.

This is not as subjective as it seems and indeed, if a passenger felt like it, I bet he could protest having to purchase a second seat if he felt that the extra cost was unncessary. Also, I must reiterate, that the extra cost will NOT be the cost of a second whole seat. It would be less. So, if you already need a seat and one-half in order to fly comfortably, why not pay for it?

If that is being mean, then we are a warped society. Flying is a luxury not a right.
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Old 06-22-2002, 09:06 PM
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My brother in law has a serious medical condition that makes it almost impossible to control his weight. At one time he was probably about 400 lbs (at about 5 ft 2) My MIL makes sure to call the airlines before he flies to discuss his condition and special needs. Several airlines have given him an automatic upgrade to first class (w/ the larger seats). Other airlines suggested that she book a middle seat for him and fly at off peak times, which would reduce the likelihood of that seat being filled. Either way she was ALWAYS prepared to pay more to ensure that the seat next to him was empty, because she wanted to ensure his comfort and was concerned about the person would 'might' have to sit next to him.

Bottom line is this, most folks KNOW when they don't fit in an airline seat. Quiet as it is kept, the airlines have been shrinking seats for a while to get more people on a flight and therefor increase revenue. If you know you are going to be uncomfortable AND make the people next to you uncomfortable be courteous enough to make some arrangement before had.

I understand SW's point, but I too wonder how they will enforce this. I have visions of those little bins that they use to see if your luggage will fit in the over head compartment: "Sir, could you have a seat here so we can see if you will fit."

Another question....what about extra tall people? My husband is pretty tall and is extremely uncomfortable in coach, especially when he has to sit next to the window. He also makes sure to try to get the seats with more leg room when he flies (first seat in coach, emergency exits) and is very conscious about poking the person in front of him with his knees. That is the most annoying thing!!
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Old 06-22-2002, 09:11 PM
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I understand SW's point, but I too wonder how they will enforce this. I have visions of those little bins that they use to see if your luggage will fit in the over head compartment: "Sir, could you have a seat here so we can see if you will fit."

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Old 06-23-2002, 08:43 PM
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Old 06-23-2002, 11:27 PM
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So I'm REALLY wondering how that person fit next to you, PrettyPoodle. Miserable must be a serious understatement.
I thought about asking him to switch seats (i take the aisle) but i could tell he needed the freedom of the aisle to stretch out his right leg. your right, im sure it was just as bad (if not worse) for him.
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