Expelled and haven't returned - Page 2

Tom Earp · #16 06-20-2002, 05:27 PM

33girl, I wont say I toatally dis
agree with you but,

This is what happens when Chapters do not follow the regulations of Schools who are afraid of getting law suits because a Greek Organization, fo lack of a better word, Screws up.

Case in point, Alfred U, of NY. They met after the Students had left for the Summer and voted to Kick All Of The Greeks OFF Campus.

We as LXA on this site are doing a grass root thing to have The LXA Chapter Plead their case at Gen. Assemb. in August to keep the Charter and function as a Chapter.

Schools are getting gun shy because of some of the things that Greek Orgs. do on campus as it reflects not only on the Greeks but the schools as well.

It is good to hear or not so good to hear of some of the things that go on!

People bad mouth DeltaAlum and Hoosier, but they are just reporting the facts! It is not their fault that they report so much, it is not their doing but the Greeks themselfs!

theta sig agd · #17 06-20-2002, 07:44 PM

I have to agree here with Tom. I also feel that I have the right to know what chapters of my org are closing and why. Also I feel it a good , however unglamorous, to know of other groups leaving chapters and why.

First, it informs the Greek community of the atmosphere surrounding greeks in different areas or in your area to help you prepare for things.

Also, it shows us that there is punishment for "screw ups" and that something is being done about it.

It may not be all happy-happy joy-joy but it is the truth and good to know.

At Valdosta State University:

Alpha Xi Delta became dormant due to low membership

SAE - has been closed several times due to hazing and I think they are off for good this time. I mean for a more extended period of time at least.

AlphaGam1019 · #18 06-20-2002, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by theta sig agd
At Valdosta State University:

Alpha Xi Delta became dormant due to low membership

SAE - has been closed several times due to hazing and I think they are off for good this time. I mean for a more extended period of time at least.

No, SAE is back on campus as of Fall 2001.

Alpha Xi Delta left back in the 1980's, Theta Chi left in the 90's.

DeltaSigStan · #19 06-20-2002, 09:05 PM

I changed my first post on this thread to say chapters that BOTh went dormant or got expelled. I apologize for anyone I offended. I just wanted to know on other campuses which houses have left campus for whatever reason. I shouldn't have just put expelled because obviously there's other reasons.

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Yes TKE is still there and reconized by TKE IHQ as a active chapter. The school and TKE IHQ disagreed with the charges. The chapter still has full suport form TKE IHQ as far as I know.

Yup, and they're really big too. They throw some awesome parties and the Greek Community here still likes them.

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Do you know for sure that AGD was 'kicked out' of SDSU? I only ask this because so many things can play a factor in a chapter's closing.

Yeah, I'm not really sure if they were kicked out or went dormant. I saw some pictures from my chapter in the early to late 80s, and Delta Sig did A LOT of things with AGD at the time, so ignorantly I figured they were really big and couldn't have went dormant for low members.

33girl · #20 06-20-2002, 09:18 PM

I do agree that we need to know who is leaving and why...it tends to be hushed up, until you look on your national website and bingo, where have those 3 chapters gone? But that information should come from the national HQ, not a message board. I think we're so hungry for information that sometimes we accept wrong information.

My main point was that for every "this chapter is closed" on this thread, there seemed to be a "no they're not"....

nauadpi · #21 06-20-2002, 10:27 PM

Well, even with some comments that we should not be discussing this, I think we should. On my campus, Northern Arizona University, I know of two times where chapters were closed.

First are the Sigma Phi Epsilon's. They were closed in the past for hazing, but spring of 2001 they were allowed to recolinize. I was at the IFC meeting and saw what they went through to get recolinized. A large point made was that the members from before the chapter was closed have since graduated/left. So the chapter really started from scratch.

Then spring of 2001 the SAE's chapter was closed. The official response from their nationals was due to being in debt to nationals. There have been many other rumors as to why they are not a chapter anymore, but I will leave those out of this post due to the fact that they are just rumor.

AlphaSigLana · #22 06-20-2002, 10:37 PM

I think this is an interesting post. So many things are happening in the greek community i.e. greeks are being kicked off of campuses and not because they did anything wrong,but because many schools no longer find use in the greek system. I can't think of the schools, but they havebeen posted on here where they abolished their entire greek system.
I think we can discuss chapters w/o being rude about why they were kicked off. I find it interesting to know why and disheartening bc many get kicked off for the same violations such as drinking etc why don't we learn?
So where will the greek system be in 20 yrs?
at the end of the school yr I had a guy tell me that he didn't think that fraternities/sororities were needed anymore bc the times have changed and people are ruder etc especially greeks and all we do is drink.

Tom Earp · #23 06-20-2002, 10:48 PM

ASLana, sent you a PM, gong to answer!?

They know not of what they speak! If you totaled up the $$$$ that the Greek Orgs do for Charity, let alone, each schools Greeks, it totals BILLIONS! That is just a year! Add to that the hours spent on campus activities, Da!

People who do not know, throw stones. They are afraid of the unknown!!

Go figure!

I have talked to many of our new members and they tell me the same thing untill they found out what we as Greeks Really do!

queequek · #24 06-20-2002, 10:59 PM

At Iowa State: (for various reasons)

Phi Omega Pi, 1934
Phi Sigma Kappa, 1939
Alpha Chi Rho, 1972
Chi Phi, 1974
Sigma Tau Gamma, 1994
Zeta Tau Alpha, 1998
Alpha Phi, 1998
Sigma Nu, 1998
Phi Kappa Psi, 1999
Phi Kappa Tau, 1999
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., 1999
Sigma Lambda Beta, 2000
Delta Chi, 2001

The1calledTKE · #25 06-21-2002, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake

TKE IHQ disagreed with our university's allegations and their house still operates apart from the rest of the greek system.

Thats the good thing about TKE IHQ. They will support you til the end. If they close a chapter it must really need to be closed.

SoCalGirl · #26 06-21-2002, 06:39 PM

DeltaSigStan,

Any idea how many times Beta has recolonized at State? I swear I think this is at least the second recolonization for them in the last four years. Or maybe I'm just getting confused with all the closing and reopenings at State. Cause I would have sworn up and down that your own chapter closed in Spring 1999. Did ya'll recolonize recently or am I losing it?

DeltaSigStan · #27 06-22-2002, 02:40 AM

In The Past Few Years:

Delta Sigma Phi was expelled in Fall 98, but RECHARTERED in 1999. We've3 had to change a lot of our organization, but we feel we're really strong going into fall 2002.

TKE and Beta were kicked out in Fall 2000. Beta's chapter closed, but TKE's Nationals felt that what happened was not TKE's fault, so they still continue to operate.

Spring 2002: Kappa Sigma expelled.

Wanna know something pretty sad? There's been allegations that Beta Omega Phi (Some Asian Frat) broke one of their pledge's legs during a pledge event. No investigation, no action taken. USFC gets away with A LOT more than the regular Greeks because they don't have a National to report to.

#28 06-24-2002, 04:23 PM

Recent ones.....

Delta Sigma Phi- 2002 (but waiting for their appeal)
Delta Chi- 2001- low numbers
FIJI- 1999 (*Sniffle*

) - Housing violation/broke a probation rule

AXiD- 1999- Low numbers
DZ- 1997- Low numbers

Past ones.....

AOPi
Phi Sigma Sigma
ZTA
Theta Phi Alpha (founded at UM and have no clue why they left)

Theta Delta Chi - no clue

shultzz · #29 06-24-2002, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
In The Past Few Years:

TKE and Beta were kicked out in Fall 2000. Beta's chapter closed, but TKE's Nationals felt that what happened was not TKE's fault, so they still continue to operate.

Wanna know something pretty sad? There's been allegations that Beta Omega Phi (Some Asian Frat) broke one of their pledge's legs during a pledge event. No investigation, no action taken. USFC gets away with A LOT more than the regular Greeks because they don't have a National to report to.

What is USFC?

lenoxxx · #30 06-24-2002, 05:32 PM

Hey is LCA really coming back to SDSU?

That would be a shock!

Lenoxxx