Black Migration Headed In New Direction -- From North To South - Page 2

korkscru · #16 04-15-2002, 11:17 AM

Eclipse and SkeeWee14, you two are women of my own heart. I am also a down-to-earth-born in the South-raised in the South-educated in the South-pure-country-bumpkin and I ABSOLUTELY L.O.V.E it.

It's good to see that SOMEONE understood where I was coming from. Like I said before, many people who don't live or know ANYTHING about the TRUE meaning and HERITAGE of the African-American lifestyle in the South tend to think that African-Americans who live in the South are these dumb-yes sir-no sir-unmotivated, uneducated, laxed, and slow people who just LOVE being victims of discrimination and racisim. Now what kind of mess is that? But we KNOW that the majority of Southern African-Americans are NOT like that. Some people tend to try and make us feel as if our opinions, beliefs, views, and way of life is at the ABSOLUTE bottom. You guys made my day. I love the South and NO ONE is going to make me feel less than they are or ASHAMED just because I'm from the South. When you look at it, if it were not for many African-Americans migrating to the North in the early, early years, these SAME folks who were born and raised in the North would have actually been raised in the South (where the MAJORITY of their ancestors originate).

AKA2D '91 · #17 04-15-2002, 04:44 PM

waving my picket sign...

Born and Raised in the south and so will my future children....

Born and raised in the south and so will my future children...

LMAO @ the southern misconceptions.

Honeykiss1974 · #18 04-15-2002, 06:27 PM

To play the devil's advocate.......

For those of us who were born and raised in the South, how do you feel about some southern WGLO members hosting the "Old South" weekend or celebrations? I had asked what this was in the Kappa Order forum and was told that this is a celebration of old southern charm, etiquette, traditions, etc.

Question:
Do you guys agree with this definition and if so, why don't Southern BGLO's celebrate this as well? Just curious as to see what the responses are.

straightBOS · #19 04-15-2002, 10:50 PM

To the Southerners...

I did not mean any disrespect in my assertion that Souhterners were slow, it was not an opinion of concerning the intelligence or level of education. It was a simply a comparision to pace of life up North.

Now, I cannot speak for everyone, but Northerners are NOT coming for the hospitality or for the Southern comfort. I, and people like me, are escaping the escalating cost of living up North.

A "Northern paycheck" with a "Southern cost of living" is a deal not many can pass up, no matter where we have to move. The South is OKAY, but it's not IMHO some hidden treasure.

If the Southern cost of living decides to mirror the North, especially the Northeast, I doubt that any of the Northern transplants would hesitate to pick up and move elsewhere.

dzrose93 · #20 04-16-2002, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
To play the devil's advocate.......

For those of us who were born and raised in the South, how do you feel about some southern WGLO members hosting the "Old South" weekend or celebrations? I had asked what this was in the Kappa Order forum and was told that this is a celebration of old southern charm, etiquette, traditions, etc. Do you guys agree with this definition and if so, why don't Southern BGLO's celebrate this as well? Just curious as to see what the responses are.

As the sister of a collegiate Kappa Alpha brother, I feel like I can probably give a little background about the Old South tradition. The reason that Kappa Alpha celebrates the "Old South" is because the fraternity was founded during the Civil War period in this country and because Robert E. Lee, a very well-respected General in the Confederate army, helped to get the fraternity started.

The traditional Old South formals that are thrown annually by Kappa Alpha chapters throughout the country are, like Honeykiss stated in her post, a celebration of old Southern charm, etiquette, and traditions. The men dress up in Civil War uniforms and the girls dress up in large, hoop-skirted dresses and attend a party that reminds them of where and by whom the KA organization was founded: in the Old South and by Southern gentlemen.

The Old South formals are truly beautiful events and are something that every KA chapter looks forward to each year. The "Old South" weekends were originally started during the opening of "Gone With The Wind" in the 1930s. The movie was a huge hit nationwide and one KA chapter used it as an inspiration for a formal. It caught on among other chapters and quickly grew into the well-known tradition that it is today.

A lesser known, but equally important, event is Convivium. This is another annual event held by all KA chapters which consists of a formal dinner during which noted speakers talk to the chapter members and their dates about the history of the fraternity and the ideals that it stands for. During the dinner, the fraternity members drink a water toast to Robert E. Lee, honoring the assistance that he provided in helping to form the Kappa Alpha Order.

Can someone please tell me when and where the Divine Nine organizations were founded? Were any of them founded before or during the Civil War period? I know that several were started in the early 1900's -- just like DZ!

-- but I'm afraid I'm not aware of the founding years of the others. Thanks in advance for the info!

AKA2D '91 · #21 04-16-2002, 05:02 PM

When you enter the forums of each of the D9 organizations, there is a link to its respective webpage, you'll find the information there.

AKA_Monet · #22 04-16-2002, 05:53 PM

Strong Roots in the South.

My Father is from Florida, born in Panama City...
My Mother is from Georgia, born in Tate County--yes, the back hills folks!

My Paternal Grandparents were raised in Quincy, Florida

Both parents attended Fisk, back in the day. For some reason, all my dad's friends sent their kids to Spelman and Morehouse in Atlanta, Georgia. And for some reason, I attended Spelman, rather than University of California at Berkeley or Santa Cruz...

Don't ask me why I wasn't born in Tennessee, but born in NorCal, Fairfield outside of Sacramento. Then it was my Mama that saw SoCal and said "We livin' heerah!!!"

To this day, my folks sound extremely southern. None of my SoCal friends without southern heritage understand my folks. And while I've decided to move back to what I wouldn't call deepsouth, just don't tell some folks in Bush country that, I will always miss my South--er, Southern California home. With the Earthquakes, the sunshine, the lack of severe weather, the waves and the sand. YES, I must move in order to gain more when I come to my old home, if some terrorist organization doesn't decide to take out LA, today...

Besides it's too dayum expensive out here anyways!!! Median houses are $305,000!!! Who the hell can afford that??? Forget SoCali, I love it, but I gotta let it go...

Wonderful1908 · #23 04-16-2002, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
Strong Roots in the South.

My Father is from Florida, born in Panama City...
My Mother is from Georgia, born in Tate County--yes, the back hills folks!

My Paternal Grandparents were raised in Quincy, Florida

Both parents attended Fisk, back in the day. For some reason, all my dad's friends sent their kids to Spelman and Morehouse in Atlanta, Georgia. And for some reason, I attended Spelman, rather than University of California at Berkeley or Santa Cruz...

Don't ask me why I wasn't born in Tennessee, but born in NorCal, Fairfield outside of Sacramento. Then it was my Mama that saw SoCal and said "We livin' heerah!!!"

To this day, my folks sound extremely southern. None of my SoCal friends without southern heritage understand my folks. And while I've decided to move back to what I wouldn't call deepsouth, just don't tell some folks in Bush country that, I will always miss my South--er, Southern California home. With the Earthquakes, the sunshine, the lack of severe weather, the waves and the sand. YES, I must move in order to gain more when I come to my old home, if some terrorist organization doesn't decide to take out LA, today...

Besides it's too dayum expensive out here anyways!!! Median houses are $305,000!!! Who the hell can afford that??? Forget SoCali, I love it, but I gotta let it go...

I feel you on that! I am a proud Cali girl true and true. I joke with my boyfirend all the time about the South, and its "ways", it's just like if you are from here you can't understand how truly slower the pace is. It doesn't matter if I am talking from someone from Cali or New York, Chicago or Detroit we all can relate to how "slow" things are down here.
I like the South, I like to live here mainly because there is a much larger network of positive blacks (who know they are black) that live here. I graduated from a HBCU which is what brought me down South, and I am in the process of relocating to Texas from Louisiana, so I plan to stay in the South.
From a historical perspective though and particulary here in Louisiana where I live,there is a westward migration (mainly to Texas) and a major lack of oppurtunities in this state for educated people, in fact statistically at this rate, there will be mostly unskilled workers and the elderly left here in the next 20-30 years. I actually like this state, but I am young and realize that my best oppurtuinites are elsewhere, however due to the hospitality, cost of living and just good feeling I get when I am down South I have choosen to make it my home.

kitten03 · #24 04-17-2002, 12:09 AM

I'm moving to atlanta for the summer to teach. the kiddies. So I'm just getting back to my southern roots, my mama is from Atlanta, long removed in body, always there in spirit. I think I will enjoy it a lot. If you are in the vicinity of Atlanta, PM me. I got a few questions.

dzrose93 · #25 04-17-2002, 10:24 AM

Kitten03,

I live in Atlanta and will be happy to answer any questions that I can. Feel free to PM me!

AKA_Monet · #26 04-17-2002, 07:47 PM

Yes, the South is slow... But not lazy... They just take they time doin' what they wanna or needa doing rather than runnin' around like a chicken with it's head cut off!!!

What I miss about the true, mason-dixon lined south is EVRYBODY, and they mama says "Hello"--or rather, "Howdy" in Texas... EVRYBODY speaks!!!

Nobody speaks in SoCali unless they know you and even then, dude, they might not acknowledge you today!!!

You always feel "special" when acknowledged...

But with that niceties, at least when I lived in Atlanta goin' to the Varsity, they customer service was none existant... That was awhile ago so thangs may have changed since then...

In SoCali, customer service is primary. Workers are extremely nice cuz they know the more money you can be duped out of, the nicer they are... Or sometimes, we Californias have too much sunshine, and our brains get fried out so we forget to be mean with our blonded out hair... It's just easier that way, I guess...