Gastric Bypass - Page 2

Optimist Prime · #16 03-06-2002, 11:00 PM

Okay, I was going to make this another thread but oh well. Um...hello? The reason only one part of your calves are big is because you only exercise those muscles. He did about fifteen differnt machines only one set of muscles got worked. If you want the sides to be big, turn your toes outward to work the inside part and then inward to work the outside part. He said he spent six years in the gym, and didnt know that? BS!!

XO_Princess · #17 03-07-2002, 12:08 AM

I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the body glitter. Do guys really wear that? Because that whole fad was over last year.

ZTAngel · #18 03-07-2002, 12:36 AM

Actually, he may have been working very hard on his muscles but they may not have developed the way he wanted them to. Some people naturally have muscles that develop better than others. Think about your own body. Aren't there some muscles that would remain semi-toned even if you never worked out? I bet there would be. Aren't there some muscles on your body that no matter how hard you work out you can't get them to look perfect? I bet there would be. For instance, my boyfriend would have nice legs even without working out while I would have chicken legs if I never worked out.

(and they're still not 100% what I want them to look like and they probably never will be...that's just the way my muscles are shaped) It's all up to genetics. That guy's genetics gave him chicken legs.

But, I don't think I'd ever get calf implants. They looked so fake!

lifesaver · #19 03-07-2002, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by XO_Princess
I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the body glitter. Do guys really wear that? Because that whole fad was over last year.

Agreed. As I have said here time and time again...

"The only place glitter belongs is a birthday card from a fifth grader to his mother."

Optimist Prime · #20 03-07-2002, 04:38 PM

But he wasn't working those muscles!! They showed him. All the exercises were the same and for the same muscles.

ansturge · #21 03-07-2002, 04:58 PM

if he wanted kickin' muscles

he should have ridden a horse(hunt seat) every day for a few weeks

now THAT is a workout!!

go horseback riding -- u will work muscles you dont know you have

SATX*APhi · #22 10-25-2002, 08:39 AM

My mom had gastric bypass suregery at the latter part of May of this year (about 5 months ago). She made the decision to have the surgery while I was back at school, so I did not talk to her about the surgery a whole lot before she went in for the surgery. I know that before the surgery my mother was 5'4" and weighed 275. My mom has always been overweight and worked out a few times a week and never really lost weight.

After my mom had the surgery, I found out that she decided to have the surgery because she felt she needed the extra energy. My dad has had heart disease for the past 5 years or so, which was surprising because he has alweays eaten healthy and worked out. BTW, he is 5'9" and weighs around 175. His doctors ordered him to stop working immediately becaue if not, he'd only have another decade to live. My mom took over my dad's business as she kept her full-time job. I also have an 8-year-old brother who, of course, requires a lot out of my mom. Her decision to have the surgery was just that, HER DECISION. My dad told her there was no need for it, that he loved her how she was. Her decision wasn't for appearance; it was for energy: to be able to work her full-time job, run my dad's business, and raise an 8-year-old.

After the surgery, not only my mom, but my immediate family went through so much. I do not know how many times we ended up in the hospital with my mom. I remember telling her one day that she looked so pale and that she needed to go to the doctor. A couple of days later I was walking into her bedroom and saw her standing in front of the sink in her bathroom. She told me to call 911. I ended up seeing that she was vommitting a massive amount of blood (something like a few cups). I went in and stood next to her and was comforting her, telling her that the paramedics were on their way. I could see her in the reflection of the mirror and all of a sudden I saw this look on her face. The next thing I now she is falling onto the ground. I was able to catch her, as my dad was yelling, crying, screaming, for me to do something......to save her. I swear, at the moment, both my dad and I thought we had lost her. I would never wish that feeling on any body. I was about to perform CPR on her when I heard her ask my why she was on the floor. A couple of seconds later the paramedics showed up. She spent almost a week in the hospital because of that incident, until she was "nursed back to health." She had a few blood transfusions and was very dehydrated.

That is just one of the few times she has ended up in the hospital because of the surgery. On another visit to the hospital, we found out that she had a bleeding ulcer, which was the cause of the incident listed above, which they failed to find this out during her first one-week stay in the hospital. She was given medicine for the ulcer and it is not gone.

In five months, my mom has now lost 120 pounds. When people ask her if she regrets having the surgery, her answer is, "Definitely. I've put myself and my family through so much hell. It definitely is not worth it."

Had my mother weighed 400 pounds, then I may have understood why she had the surgery. The only unhealthy thing about my mom was her weight. Her doctors told her that other than her weight, she was in perfect health. I respect the decision my mother made about having the surgery; however, we were all put through a lot because of it. She regrets having had the surgery, but there is no changing what has already been done.

She has done excellently in these past couple of months. She now gets vitamin shots from her doctors, and takes some other vitamins in the form of a liquid. When we go out to dinner as a family, I feel bad that she can only have a few spoonfuls of soup and a couple bites of meat. She made that decision though, and we are all supporting her in her journey.

sigmagrrl · #23 10-25-2002, 09:00 AM

I am a person who had gastric bypass. I want to just state that it wasn't a tough decision, but it's hard afterwards. The surgery only "works" for about 18 months, then your body adjusts. I am still overweight, but notby much anymore. I wear anything between a 14 and an 18, depending on the cut. I work out 6-8 times a week, and it's still hard. I've lost 240 so far, and have about 60 to go. But there is so much work that goes into this that no one can possibly understand unless you've been there. I could write a book (actually, I am), but please know that this was a health choice, not just vanity.

swissmiss04 · #24 10-25-2002, 10:11 AM

Wow, I had no idea that gastric bypass surgery could be so dangerous. Hopefully me nor my loved ones will ever have to make that choice. As for the lipo thing...If you went to any reliable trustworthy board certified plastic surgeon and told him you wanted lipo but didn't work out ever, most likely he/she would suggest diet and exercise. Lipo can be very dangerous and even if you get it done, if you have no muscle underneath the fat, you'll just look flabby and untoned.

poodleNtraining · #25 10-25-2002, 11:09 AM

SATX, I'm sorry to hear about your mother, I'll pray for you all.

Well, I saw the MTV thing, and I saw another special on the gastic bypass, and now they have two methods, the regular stapling (which was so nasty, they showed the actual surgery), then the new method, where they put this white rings with saline in it around the stomach at the same place as the staples, and they increase/decrease the amount of saline through an injection as needed so that you can make the pocket smaller gradually, and this method isn't permanent.

I would definately say that that surgery is a LAST RESORT!! Only if you've actually tried to lose weight by changing your lifestyle and it didn't work should you do that because its so extreme!! I'd probably be a candidate for it, but I don't think I'd EVER actually do it. It just...doesn't sit well with me. I also saw this special (I LOVE the discovery and discovery health channel and TLC) where they talked about new research they're doing, where they've found this particular gene or hormone in some that does something molecularly to your body, but in plain terms, makes it hard to lose fat because this gene or hormone prevents it. In those that don't have it, they have no problem with weight no matter what they ate. They talked about all the different variables they used and it was very interesting. But I've known that for a while because I know lots of skinny as a rail people that eat like HOGS ON CRACK and don't gain an ounce, and bigger people who just LOOK at a cracker and gain 5 pounds. I've known people to honestly try hard as hell to lose weight and it just sits there, so I think that this research is very valid. Its not just a case of people eating too much, although I know that that is the case with some. I've never eaten like a hog, I eat basically balanced meals, and still gain. Who knows. I'd be very interested in seeing how that research goes, they said they're almost at the human trial point!!

xok85xo · #26 10-25-2002, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by poodleNtraining

then the new method, where they put this white rings with saline in it around the stomach at the same place as the staples, and they increase/decrease the amount of saline through an injection as needed so that you can make the pocket smaller gradually, and this method isn't permanent.

i'm pretty sure this is the surgery that sharon osbourne had..she said it was VERY painful in an interview

CarolinaCutie · #27 10-25-2002, 12:20 PM

HOGS on CRACK... now that's funny.

Watching shows like this (and yes, I watched it) makes me feel a little bit better about myself. No, I'll never be perfect. I would love to be a little skinnier... But at least I don't have an obsessive vanity problem.

Gastric bypass works for a lot of people, especially those with health problems... but Richard Simmons has helped a lot of obese people slim down too. Our society is always looking for the fastest fix to our problems.

Personally, I would like to work on my INNER imperfections before I start stressing out about my love handles.

lifesaver · #28 10-25-2002, 01:27 PM

My boss had gastric bypass. Actually he had that ring thing put in there to constrict the size of his stomach. He so cheats. Knows how to work around it..drinks lots of water when he eats a lot, andalso eats real soft foods that slip by. Every now and then it bites him in the ass, and its kinda funny. He'll be cheating, and then yack. Real fast like. hahahaha.

sigmagrrl · #29 10-25-2002, 01:28 PM

There are actually over 10 forms of the surgery. I had something called bilieo-pancreatic diversion: most of my stomach was removed and about 70% of my small intestine is gone as well. The stomach makes it harder to eat more, and the removal of intestine was so that I absorb less calories. I can eat any fat and protein I want, it goes right through me! But carbs and sugars are bad, NAUGHTY!

alphaiota · #30 10-25-2002, 02:08 PM

i have a few comments about this subject myself. oh where to begin.
first of all, i did see the mtv show about it and i agree with most of you on the whole calves guy and the two annoying chics. but as for the girl who had gastric bypass, i think it was okay to do, but this is where i had problems.
the committment factor in having this surgery is probably equal if not more than the committment to working out and eating right. the difference though is the drastic and abrasive nature of having surgery. being obese is something i know about. i am 5'7" and weigh about 260lbs. i considered the surgery, but have opted not to do it. my brother who is a doctor basically showed me that it isn't worth going under the knife and completely changing myself internally to lose weight. instead i started a personal fitness program and began to eat properly. i haven't lost much yet, but i'm working on it. i'm staying committed to it.
i, like the girl in the show, was pretty much a lazy a$$ who didn't want to eat properly and work out, but the reality of it is that eating properly and working out is the best option for almost everyone. it is possible for someone who is over 500 lbs to lose weight without having surgery. i have a friend who weighed about that much and simply went to a dietician and get himself on a special diet program to help bring his weight down. it worked as long as he stuck to it. he ended up losing over 100lbs in the first 6months.
the key is, you have to stick to it if you want to lose the weight. i hate not being able to eat sugars and carbs, but if i wnat to lose the weight i'm not going to eat them. i hate going to work out all the time, but i do it.
i do understand that it seems to be the best option to some people and some people have tried losing weight the old fashioned way and failed.
as for vanity factors, well, regardless of what anyone says, i believe that vanity is always a factor in someone's desire to lose weight. it's not the only factor by any means, but it is a factor.
i will try and refrain from getting into the whole fat discrimination issue too much, but like it or not overweight people deal with fat bashing and fat discrimination all the time. i've even experienced it on this site. but that's a whole other thread that i'm probably going to start soon anyways.
either way i think it's an extremely drastic decision to get surgery for something that you can usually take care of with a little hard work.

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