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02-07-2002, 07:21 AM
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I personally find ephedra over-rated and not worth the money, the only use i get out of them is for cram sessions when i need to function on no sleep. In terms of boasts for workouts, there's better stuff out there. I'd recommend consulting with some prof. trainers that are educated on the matter and not Bill from Xenadrine's market research.
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02-07-2002, 07:23 AM
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Ditto Kappastar,
I started working out at the end of December and there is so much difference in my energy level. I actaully look forward to going to the gym and feel somuch better about myself.
I see several dogs per year that get into their owners diet pill crap and after seeing what this crap does to them I would never ever take any of it.
eat rt. and exercise that is how you will lose wt.
PS what do you think of the Taibo videos?
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Originally posted by KappaStargirl
So I'm old-school and renegade, let the flames begin.
Please, DO NOT take Xenadrine. Your body deserves better than that. If you need to lose weight and get your energy levels up, here's the secret.
eat right
exercise
I work out about 5 times a week and without supplements or protein powders or anything I have improved my mood and have SO much more energy. I also like the fact that I'm building bone density and muscle mass since I lift weights, it makes me feel good to know I'm getting stronger (and it amazes my boss who sees that I can lift that huge water-cooler replacement bottle).
Anyone who wants to discuss workout videos, PM me, I am a junkie (but I suppose there are worse things to be addicted to) and will give recommendations! I can't afford a gym membership on my salary, but my FIRM-addicted grad school roommate got me into video exercise and it has changed me for the better. Of course, that doesn't make me any less jealous of Hootie and her amount of gym access, heehee.
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02-07-2002, 11:22 AM
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I don't take diet pills at all, but I have started with meal supplements/ replacements lately. Currently I have five small meals a day and three are shakes or bars. I had been using the Soy Protein Slimfast (cause it's cheap and tastes ok if you toss in strawberries, lol) but this week I bought some Metabolife shakes (because they are on sale) i have to say that they really make a difference in my energy levels. i drink them in the morning before I go to work and it has done wonders to get me up (I am so not a morning person) and out in the am.
Anyway, after the upshot of energy this has given me, I am seriously considering using them. Does anyone have information on Metabolife 360??? Anyone have any horror stories or success stories?
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02-07-2002, 01:25 PM
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I'm taking Xeta-lean a $15 Wal-Mart version of Xenadrine. It's the exact same thing (same amount too) for half the price of the GNC kind. Over Christmas I lost 10 pounds in 11 days, and another pound four days later. It really does make me jittery & shaky, and I have a hard time falling asleep. I'm kind of afraid of taking it too much anymore, but I don't think it will hurt to finish the bottle of it. Right now I'm taking LESS than the reccomended dose b/c I've been off of it for a couple of weeks and need to build up to it again (otherwise I'll be bouncing off the walls).
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02-07-2002, 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by ZetaLuvBunny
Over Christmas I lost 10 pounds in 11 days, and another pound four days later.
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ahhhh!!!!! 10 lbs in 11 days!!!! that is sooo unhealthy and the likelyhood that you'll keep it off is very low too! you should not lose more than 1-2 lbs a week for it to be effective in the long run. and losing that much in 11 days could have serious health problems for you! all this "miracle weight-loss drug" stuff scares the crap out of me!
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02-07-2002, 02:43 PM
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Ok, I have taken Xenadrine and have experienced NONE of the problems that some of you have listed. I lost weight REALLY fast and it helped to curve my appetite. If you want to lose weight fast this is definately for you.
BUT, a lot of people do NOT follow the directions and a lot of females diet when they are not overweight. The packaging specifically says not to take unless your DOCTOR has said that you are overweight. Obviously the medication will affect you more depending on your weight.
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02-07-2002, 03:01 PM
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okay i dont believe in diet pills because ive seen people lose weight, sometimes too much weight and eventually they gain all of it, plus more, back!
Exercising and eating healthy really work, and its free!
I dont understand why so many people spend so much money on pills!
For those of you who are taking them and wont consider stopping, please be careful!
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02-07-2002, 03:08 PM
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I didn't spend very much on that---it was only $15 for a month's supply. I think the reason a lot of people have problems (i.e. heart attacks) with diet pills is that they overdose on it, or become dehydrated. Many of the diet pills will cause you to become more dehydrated, but that's why you should DRINK WATER (as EVERYONE should anyway!). Minimum EIGHT GLASSES A DAY, PEOPLE!!! I try to drink 10-12 glasses a day! Water is the most important thing you can put into your body---even more so than fruits & vegetables (which happen to CONTAIN lots of water). When u drink juice or soda, this does NOT count as water!!! Soda pop can dehydrate you, too!
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02-07-2002, 03:13 PM
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zetaluvbunny, my post wasnt directed at you, or anyone in particular. Maybe you didnt spend a lot of money on your pills but thats not to say others only spend 15 dollars like you.
I was basically talking about people i know.
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02-07-2002, 04:05 PM
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I don't want to get into a huge argument but I think that there's a lot of misconception about these pills. First of all you will lose weight (water weight) if you stop drinking caffiene (ie. coffe, pop, tea). I haven't had but one pop in the past month!
Like Iowa Hawkeye said, 1 to 2 lbs per week is the most a person should lose. Anything over that is considered unhealthy. I learned in my Science of Food class that for any diet to be considered successful one would have to maintain the results for THREE YEARS. I find it hard to believe that myself, but the truth is so many women look for a quick fix and lose weight and then gain that plus some back - I KNOW I HAVE.
Worse yet your body builds up a tolerance to these fat-burning pills so you really aren't doing much but subjecting yourself to ephedrine (after some time of taking the pill).
Personally I try not to use those pills or any pills. I take some now and then, but generally I only do it when I need a pick-me-up before I hit the gym.
With regular diet and exercize that shouldn't be necessary!
Furthermore, I liked what Heidi pointed out. Before Phen-Phen was taken off the shelves it was thought to be safe. Now women can sue the makers of it for side affects. It's risky.
Plain and simple- change your diet and the amount of time you exercize and you will notice a change.
Hootie
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02-07-2002, 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Hootie
I don't want to get into a huge argument but I think that there's a lot of misconception about these pills. First of all you will lose weight (water weight) if you stop drinking caffiene (ie. coffe, pop, tea). I haven't had but one pop in the past month!
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hmmm i wouldn't say that NOT taking caffeine will help you lose weight, apart from increasing your metabolism it breaks down fat cells, switching from pop to water WILL make you lose weight because there's so many calories in the latter.
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02-07-2002, 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Lil_G
hmmm i wouldn't say that NOT taking caffeine will help you lose weight, apart from increasing your metabolism it breaks down fat cells.
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WHAT? I've never heard of caffeine breaking down fat cells. Perhaps by boosting your metabolism to help you increase your energy to do more work it could do that, but I don't think there is a direct link between caffeine consumption and fat cells decrease.
And obviously you will lose more weight by drinking H2O because it has zero calories. I was just pointing that out to people who want a way to start off a good diet
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02-07-2002, 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by aggieAXO
Ditto Kappastar,
I started working out at the end of December and there is so much difference in my energy level. I actaully look forward to going to the gym and feel somuch better about myself.
I see several dogs per year that get into their owners diet pill crap and after seeing what this crap does to them I would never ever take any of it.
eat rt. and exercise that is how you will lose wt.
PS what do you think of the Taibo videos?
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Tae-Bo, and kickboxing in general, is a great cardio workout, but it will not make you stronger. The only muscle made stronger by aerobic-only exercise is the heart. Personally, I'm a fan of the Kathy Smith Kickboxing Workout, which is the perfect step in ability between the Basic and Advanced Tae-Bo.
Another thing to know: When you lose weight with Xenadrine, dieting, or other ways without weight training and aerobic exercise, you lose muscle as well as fat. However, if you continue to not exercise and gain the weight back, what you gain will be 100 percent fat. yucky.
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02-07-2002, 05:57 PM
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ok, i took xenadrine at the beginning of last semester and lost a whopping 9lbs in 2.5 weeks, and i really wasn't exercising all that much (it was around rush...i ate less and stressed more)...but when school finally started, i went up to the full dose and i had some major heart palpitations. yeah, it was a lil' freaky to be sitting in class and feel this lil' "fillump-ump-bumb" action. i didn't like it just b/c of that. i didn't have trouble sleeping b/c i didn't take it anywhere near the time i would be passing out, but it did make my heart funky. my blood pressure went up, too, so i just really don't recommend it. if you do take it, stick with the half dose b/c it didn't mess me up then.
exercise is the answer. and just remember, if you exercise enough, you can eat whatever you want. at least that's what my recruiter told me.
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02-07-2002, 05:58 PM
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 I have been a naughty girl when it comes to dieting. I have tried a couple and currently taking Hydroxycut at the moment. I never keep up with the exercise when I take supplements so I don't get the maximum benefits like the people in the advertisements. If you exercise and eat right, the supplements should work. I tried Xenadrine before and I lost 10 pounds in a month. I only went to the gym twice during that time and I had a partime job and full-time course load. I think an active lifestyle really helps. Biosculpt/Thermosculpt requires a little more dedication. I did go to the gym more often, but I wasn't really eating right. I tried Stacker 3 and got the best results. I worked out at least 3 times a week and only ate when I was hungry. I dropped below my plateau weight at that time. Of course I have been bad so when I reached the lose 10 more mark, I slacked off and the weight came back. I will admit to trying the Hollywood Diet too. In two day I lost a total of 7 pounds, but it required so much will power and self control. I guess from the ones I tried I would have to recommend Stacker 3.
I don't recommend any ephedrine products for those with bad nerves or drink caffine. I have a slow metabolism so I force my self to take steps or walk instead of using the bus when ever possible. It is easy to lose weight when taking diet supplements. It is keeping the weight off that became my problem. I guess in a nutshell...you really have to discipline yourself to lose inches. Hope this helps
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