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Old 02-04-2002, 11:35 AM
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What is the differences in the A-A Bible? Never heard of that version.

I dunno.... I was raised on the KJV and I (of course bias) think that one is the best. I have also read it in Greek and Latin, very interesting.
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Old 02-04-2002, 11:54 AM
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What is the differences in the A-A Bible? Never heard of that version.

I dunno.... I was raised on the KJV and I (of course bias) think that one is the best. I have also read it in Greek and Latin, very interesting.

Well I have the NIV version of AA Bible and my sands has the KJV. It is supplemented with "vignettes/mini-sermons" from prominent African American ministers.

Here is a link to Amazon for that Bible. My mom purchased it for me and others in the family back in 99.
I hope the link works:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...452960-2366366

TITLE: The African American Devotional Bible : New International Version
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Old 06-27-2004, 07:50 AM
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TESTING THE FAITH
New Bible translation promotes fornication
Archbishop of Canterbury praises
version for 'extraordinary power'
Posted: June 24, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A brand-new translation of the Bible – praised by Britain's archbishop of Canterbury, that nation's senior Christian voice – flatly contradicts traditional core Christian beliefs on sex and morality.

Titled "Good as New," the new Bible is translated by former Baptist minister John Henson for the "One" organization, to produce what the group calls a "new, fresh and adventurous" translation of the Christian scriptures.



Archbishop Rowan Williams
The 104th archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams – leader of the Church of England – describes it is a book of "extraordinary power," but admitted many would be startled by its content.

"Instead of condemning fornicators, adulterers and 'abusers of themselves with mankind'," says Ruth Gledhill, the London Times religious affairs correspondent, "the new version of his first letter to Corinth has St. Paul advising Christians not to go without sex for too long in case they get 'frustrated.'"


"The new version, which Dr. Williams says he hopes will spread 'in epidemic profusion through religious and irreligious like', turns St. Paul's strictures against fornication on their head," dds the Times.

The One organization that produced the new Bible translation is dedicated to "establish[ing] peace, justice, dignity and rights for all." It is also focused on "sustainable use of the earth's resources," challenging "oppression, injustice, exclusion and discrimination" as well as accepting "one another, valuing their diversity and experience."

According to Ekklesia, a London-based "theological think tank" that supports the "One" translation:

The translation is pioneering in its accessibility, and changes the original Greek and Hebrew nomenclature into modern nicknames. t. Peter becomes "Rocky," Mary Magdalene becomes "Maggie," Aron becomes "Ron," Andronicus becomes "Andy" and Barabbas becomes "Barry." In keeping with the times, translator Henson deftly translates "demon possession" as "mental illness" and "Son of Man," the _expression Jesus frequently used to escribe himself, as "the Complete Person." In addition, parables are rendered as "riddles," baptize is to "dip" in water, salvation becomes "healing" or "completeness" and Heaven becomes "the world beyond time and space." LAWD, PETER becomes ROCKY!!!

Here's how Williams, the top Anglican archbishop, describes the ew Bible: "Instead of being taken into a specialized religious frame of reference – as happens even with the most onscientious of formal modern translations – and being given a gospel ddressed to specialized concerns … we have here a vehicle for thinking and worshipping that is fully earthed, recognizably about our humanity."

In addition, notes Ekklesia, the archbishop praises Henson's translation for eliminating "the stale, the technical, the unconsciously exclusive words and policies" in other translations.

Here, according to the London Times, are a few sample passages:

Mark 1:4
Authorized version: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."

New: "John, nicknamed 'The Dipper,' was 'The Voice.' He was in the desert, inviting people to be dipped, to show they were determined to change their ways and wanted to be forgiven."

Mark 1:10-11
Authorized version: "And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him. And there came a voice from the heaven saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

New: "As he was climbing up the bank again, the sun shone through a gap in the clouds. At the same time a pigeon flew down and perched on him. Jesus took this as a sign that God's spirit was with him. A voice from overhead was heard saying, 'That's my boy! You're doing fine!'"

Matthew 23:25
Authorized version: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!"
New version: "Take a running jump, Holy Joes, humbugs!"

Matthew 26:69-70
Authorized version: "Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a
damsel came unto him, saying, 'Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.' But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest."

New: "Meanwhile Rocky was still sitting in the courtyard. A woman came up to him and said: 'Haven't I seen you with Jesus, the hero from Galilee?" Rocky shook his head and said: 'I don't know what the hell you're talking about!'"


1 Corinthians 7:1-2
KJV: "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

New: "Some of you think the best way to cope with sex is for men and women to keep right away from each other. That is more likely to lead to sexual offences. My advice is for everyone to have a regular partner." LAAAAAAAAAAWD

1 Corinthians 7:8-7
KJV: "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for
them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them
marry: for it is better to marry than to burn."

New: "If you know you have strong needs, get yourself a partner. Better than being frustrated."


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I ain't perfect but I really think this Bible might get folks in TROUBLE!!!
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:06 AM
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Methinks that your side gig as the handbasket to hell driver and recruitment coordinator might become quite profitable!
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Old 06-27-2004, 12:18 PM
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Old 06-27-2004, 01:08 PM
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Methinks that your side gig as the handbasket to hell driver and recruitment coordinator might become quite profitable!
LOL

I think that when folks start to mess with things that are not broken, they end up breaking them. This idea is just dumb. I can see the purpose of making the Bible a little easier to understand and enjoy, but this is going to far. Its bad enough that the Bible we already have is written according to what a HUMAN felt should be there, but to then go and mess with that, its just to much.

The TIME is coming, this kinda stuff is just ridiculous.
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Old 06-27-2004, 02:01 PM
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Methinks that your side gig as the handbasket to hell driver and recruitment coordinator might become quite profitable!
OKAAAAAY!

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I think that when folks start to mess with things that are not broken, they end up breaking them. This idea is just dumb. I can see the purpose of making the Bible a little easier to understand and enjoy, but this is going to far.
Umm, how about we already have this --it's called the NIV Version...So, really, is there a need to do this?!

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Old 06-27-2004, 02:11 PM
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Umm, how about we already have this --it's called the NIV Version...So, really, is there a need to do this?!
I know, that's why this one is going too far
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Old 06-27-2004, 02:40 PM
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Here, according to the London Times, are a few sample passages:

Mark 1:4
Authorized version: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."

New: "John, nicknamed 'The Dipper,' was 'The Voice.' He was in the desert, inviting people to be dipped, to show they were determined to change their ways and wanted to be forgiven."

Mark 1:10-11
Authorized version: "And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him. And there came a voice from the heaven saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

New: "As he was climbing up the bank again, the sun shone through a gap in the clouds. At the same time a pigeon flew down and perched on him. Jesus took this as a sign that God's spirit was with him. A voice from overhead was heard saying, 'That's my boy! You're doing fine!'"

Matthew 23:25
Authorized version: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!"
New version: "Take a running jump, Holy Joes, humbugs!"

Matthew 26:69-70
Authorized version: "Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a
damsel came unto him, saying, 'Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.' But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest."

New: "Meanwhile Rocky was still sitting in the courtyard. A woman came up to him and said: 'Haven't I seen you with Jesus, the hero from Galilee?" Rocky shook his head and said: 'I don't know what the hell you're talking about!'"


1 Corinthians 7:1-2
KJV: "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

New: "Some of you think the best way to cope with sex is for men and women to keep right away from each other. That is more likely to lead to sexual offences. My advice is for everyone to have a regular partner." LAAAAAAAAAAWD

1 Corinthians 7:8-7
KJV: "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for
them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them
marry: for it is better to marry than to burn."

New: "If you know you have strong needs, get yourself a partner. Better than being frustrated."
That's absolutely incredible! Ya know, I think I recall something that the Bible says about adding to or changing its contents. It comes somewhere near the end of Revelation and the consequences are pretty severe. Or maybe that's just me.
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Old 06-27-2004, 02:53 PM
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Old 06-27-2004, 03:10 PM
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What is the basis? Are they trying to make the Bible like some sort of novel so that people will read it? How is the integrity of the Word being protected with this "new translation?" I can say that I have never read the Bible and may not understand every single word without explanation, but I'll be darned if "Rocky" telling people to "get the hell out of here" will help to get the point across.

Do these people think that this is what God wants? Do they think that they are doing him a "favor?" I do declare that Hell is gonna have to start making some extra room because it's gonna get crowded down there. I know that God forgives, but calling his main man "Rocky" surely won't be getting too many people admitted into the "world beyond time and space."
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Old 06-27-2004, 05:02 PM
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You would think the Bibles would explode in transit but since that isn't likely just make sure you have your own and buy whatever version floats your boat (except this one) to give to the rest of your family. Making text easier to read is one thing but Rocky and Maggie and find yourself a regular partner (never mentioning the sanctity of marriage~even though I know that one gets skipped over a lot anyway) is just wrong.
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Old 06-27-2004, 06:05 PM
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Can you imagine the Bible verse that says Jesus wept saying Jesus cried like a little _______.
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Old 06-27-2004, 06:55 PM
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This is just a bad idea and another example of just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
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Old 06-28-2004, 09:02 AM
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That's absolutely incredible! Ya know, I think I recall something that the Bible says about adding to or changing its contents. It comes somewhere near the end of Revelation and the consequences are pretty severe. Or maybe that's just me.
Naw, it ain't you.
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18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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