Plaque Has Name of MLK's Killer/MSNBC Apologizes for THEIR Misspelling - Page 2

tickledpink · #16 01-17-2002, 06:22 AM

Garbage. Someone did that mess intentionally. Even if an immigrant did it, how in the heezzay faseezay would he know who James Earl Ray was (can we say... SET UP?)?

Typo...???

??? Whatever!

They could have come up with a bettter one than that. James Earl Jomes is a typo.

but wait.... (laugh break)

CT4, did you really say "I wish a mofo..."?

ROTFL!

CrimsonTide4 · #17 01-17-2002, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by tickledpink

CT4, did you really say "I wish a mofo..."?
ROTFL!

Girl yes and that was the "edited" word.

Like TP said, James Earl JoMes is a typo, an error, a mistake, etc.
JAMES EARL RAY is EVIL, pure and simple.

c&c1913 · #18 01-17-2002, 09:37 PM

Who was this "non-English speaking" worker's supervisor?

The worker was probably copying something that an "English" speaking person wrote.

How did it become public knowledge?

Why didn't they catch and correct it right after production?

vanda · #19 01-18-2002, 03:34 PM

It seems very intentional to me. A plaque with that much importance should have been checked thoroughly by several different people before leaving the plant. Are you telling me all of them didn't notice it? I think not!

NinjaPoodle · #20 01-18-2002, 05:44 PM

but at least the plaque is being fixed.

CrimsonTide4 · #21 02-10-2002, 01:43 PM

Thursday, Feb 7, 2002, 3:42 pm EST

MSNBC Apologizes for Misspelling
Associated Press

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NEW YORK (AP) - MSNBC has apologized for a typographical error that turned the name of an interview subject into a racial slur.

The network on Monday aired an interview about the Enron case with Republican consultant Niger Innis. The onscreen graphic identifying Innis, who is black, had an extra 'g' in his first name.

Shortly after it appeared, correspondent Gregg Jarrett offered Innis a "profuse apology."

"Oh, God, I thought you guys thought I was a rapper or something," Innis replied. "Media bias continues. Just kidding. It's not the first time it's happened,

but hopefully it's the last."

It was strictly a typographical mistake, network spokesman Mark O'Connor said Thursday. He wouldn't say whether any disciplinary action was taken against the person who made the blunder.

Copyright 2002 Associated Press.

mccoyred · #22 02-11-2002, 12:50 PM

...and I'm the Tooth Fairy!

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

It was strictly a typographical mistake, network spokesman Mark O'Connor said Thursday. He wouldn't say whether any disciplinary action was taken against the person who made the blunder.

Honeykiss1974 · #23 02-11-2002, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
[B]

"Oh, God, I thought you guys thought I was a rapper or something," Innis replied.
Copyright 2002 Associated Press.

What does that typo have to do with rap? See, that is just one more example as to why WE SHOULD NOT be calling ourselves by the N-word!

ChaosDST · #24 02-11-2002, 06:15 PM

This isn't a thread about immigrants and non-English speaking inhabitants of this country.
I think that people are jumping to conclusions when they assume some type of conspiracy or hidden racism. There are some really stupid blunders that occur for various reasons. Until proven otherwise, I believe that this was a Freudian slip (which is different from a typo) of extremely bad taste. Names sound similar and people don't always think straight. Someone could present Bill Clinton with a plaque that says George (P-Funk) Clinton---less offensive analogy.

Sugar_N_Spice · #25 02-13-2002, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
I don't care what country you are from...a "J" does not look like a "R". PLUS, the "J" and the "R" are not located NEAR each other on the KEYBOARD....HELLOOOOOOOOOO!

James Earl RAY
James Earl JONES

PUHLEEZE!

That's what I'm saying!!! You CANNOT possibly make a "mistake" like that!!

Now, maybe the second scenario w/ "Niger Innis" was a "freudian slip", as Chaos stated. I could see someone typing an extra letter but typing in two completely differnet names requires actual thinking, IMO...

ChaosDST · #26 02-13-2002, 10:16 PM

In this day and age racism is a lot less blatant. Racists and bigots aren't making the obvious insults and public displayings of disrespect. I thought these instances were unfortunate and somewhat insulting, but not racist. Just my $19.13.

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Originally posted by Sugar_N_Spice

That's what I'm saying!!! You CANNOT possibly make a "mistake" like that!!

Now, maybe the second scenario w/ "Niger Innis" was a "freudian slip", as Chaos stated. I could see someone typing an extra letter but typing in two completely differnet names requires actual thinking, IMO...

CrimsonTide4 · #27 02-13-2002, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
In this day and age racism is a lot less blatant. Racists and bigots aren't making the obvious insults and public displayings of disrespect. I thought these instances were unfortunate and somewhat insulting, but not racist. Just my $19.13.

No insulting would have been Niger Penis or something like that, but NIGGER -- that is a RACIST insult. Intentional or no, I cannot determine but NIGGER is of a racist derogatory nature.

ChaosDST · #28 02-13-2002, 11:11 PM

Soror,

According to the Sociology of Racism, in order for something to be determined as racist, we would have to know the thoughts and intentions behind it. NIGGER is a well known racial slur, but it's use does not entail racism or that one is a racist. Racism is very intentional, so since we can't determine whether or not the mistake was intentional, we can not assume that it was racist. There's the difference, which is why we can not cry racism at every offense. It voids the argument and can dimmenish our credibility.

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

No insulting would have been Niger Penis or something like that, but NIGGER -- that is a RACIST insult. Intentional or no, I cannot determine but NIGGER is of a racist derogatory nature.

CrimsonTide4 · #29 02-14-2002, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
Soror,

According to the Sociology of Racism, in order for something to be determined as racist, we would have to know the thoughts and intentions behind it. NIGGER is a well known racial slur, but it's use does not entail racism or that one is a racist. Racism is very intentional, so since we can't determine whether or not the mistake was intentional, we can not assume that it was racist. There's the difference, which is why we can not cry racism at every offense. It voids the argument and can dimmenish our credibility.

Scenario: A Black person is walking down the street, a white person approaches and says, "Hey NIGGER!!"
A. Freudian Slip

B. Racist or insulting

I vote for B -- racist or insulting. Regardless of his or her intention, NIGGER has a negative, insulting connotation which does not translate into a Freudian slip. I graduated with a degree in psychology and studied Freud. Freudian slips is a bunch of hogwash.

Tell me was it a Freudian slip this past Halloween in Auburn?
Was it a Freudian slip then or was that insulting?

But yet typing a person's name as NIGGER vs. NIGER is NOT INSULTING?!?!?!?

Puh leeeeeeease, it is an insult and one of a racist nature. Our society has become too used to the N word and as such they get less upset when it is used so casually or by members of another race or ethnicity but regardless, NIGGER was meant to be an insult upon creation and when used last week for a person's name.

ChaosDST · #30 02-14-2002, 06:35 PM

Simmer down, soror, the rolling eyes and so forth lead me to think that you're getting a little too amped for this to just be a Greekchat discussion

. What you're talking about is not what the original scenario was. There's a complete difference between someone saying "hey nigger" and someone putting James Earl Ray or Inis Nigger. There is no way possible that saying "hey Nigger" can be misconstrued as anything more than a racial slur intended to insult and offend. The individual saying "hey Nigger" is being very deliberate, it isn't a mistake---unless this person is completely ignorant and unaware that this is offensive. However, you can not prove that the James Earl Ray and the Inis Nigger incidents were intentional. The question was NEVER whether these incidents were insulting...the question was whether they were racist (check the previous posts). Until someone can prove that they were intentional, this thread is based on pure speculation. I am just saying that we should not always jump to conclusions and get all excited until we know the whole story. None of us know it quite yet and are debating for the sake of debating. Again, the Auburn incident is another completely different scenario because, again, that was even MORE deliberate than saying "hey nigger."

Apparently this thread was intended as a venting tool and almost everyone assumed that all black people thought this was a racist incident--or every black person that replied would share in the outrage. Well, there are quite a few black skeptics

out here who find these incidents insulting, but aren't quite ready to pull those racism cards out of our back pockets yet.

BTW, we do all know that racist and insulting aren't the same thing, right???

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

Scenario: A Black person is walking down the street, a white person approaches and says, "Hey NIGGER!!"
A. Freudian Slip
B. Racist or insulting

I vote for B -- racist or insulting. Regardless of his or her intention, NIGGER has a negative, insulting connotation which does not translate into a Freudian slip. I graduated with a degree in psychology and studied Freud. Freudian slips is a bunch of hogwash.

Tell me was it a Freudian slip this past Halloween in Auburn?
Was it a Freudian slip then or was that insulting?

But yet typing a person's name as NIGGER vs. NIGER is NOT INSULTING?!?!?!? Puh leeeeeeease, it is an insult and one of a racist nature. Our society has become too used to the N word and as such they get less upset when it is used so casually or by members of another race or ethnicity but regardless, NIGGER was meant to be an insult upon creation and when used last week for a person's name.