Stolen KKG pins! Please help! Pass this along....

[badgeguy]

This is a note from my friend: "That besides priceless family pins that were stolen... Both of your friends personal badges from their F&S were stolen along with the Keys.. And most if their honor pins... PBK. ODK etc were stolen as well ... And they never dreamed after this long that anything would surface.... And are now hoping that this might lead to the recovery of their own original badges... How would they/GC feel if their original badge was stolen ? Anyone would want their original badge back... and this is the first time in over 14 years we have ever had any hope of that ever happening!"

[badgeguy]

The same seller who when asked by the KKG historian to "donate" the pins was told to put on a bid like everyone else??

As far as the other stuff that is not stuff from my friend. The keys so far are they only things to have shown up after all these years, as for the other stuff stolen who know of any of that is still around, it may have already been melted down.....these obviously were kept because someone, whoever obtained these from the person who stole them in the first place must have thought they'd be worth something someday......

I just hope if anyone else were in this situation that there would be others willing to try and help.

Thanks
BG

[FloridaTish]

The seller has a right to sell the badges. That is not in dispute and the KKG historian asked if they were willing to sell directly to them them and just because the seller wants to sell does not make them a bad person or a thief. Sellers on ebay are in business to make money, plain and simple.

That being said, your "friend" just needs to handle it through ebay with a police report. How are you not seeing the simplicity of that? Stolen jewlery = filed police report.

Personally I feel you are utterly full of crap, but that is just my opinion. You are a seller on ebay yourself, you know the routine, and just want these badges so you can turn around and eventually sell them yourself for a jacked up overinflated price after coveting them yourself for a while. Do you really think people fall for your schtick?

*corrected to indicate the correct working from the Kappa historian*

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by FloridaTish

Personally I feel you are utterly full of crap, but that is just my opinion. You are a seller on ebay yourself, you know the routine, and just want these badges so you can turn around and eventually sell them yourself for a jacked up overinflated price after coveting them yourself for a while. Do you really think people fall for your schtick?

I concur.

[badgeguy]

Originally Posted by FloridaTish

The seller has a right to sell the badges. That is not in dispute and the KKG historian asked if they were willing to donate them and just because the seller wants to sell does not make them a bad person or a thief. Sellers on ebay are in business to make money, plain and simple.

That being said, your "friend" just needs to handle it through ebay with a police report. How are you not seeing the simplicity of that? Stolen jewlery = filed police report.

Personally I feel you are utterly full of crap, but that is just my opinion. You are a seller on ebay yourself, you know the routine, and just want these badges so you can turn around and eventually sell them yourself for a jacked up overinflated price after coveting them yourself for a while. Do you really think people fall for your schtick?

No, I have absolutely no interest in these pins, EVEN if they weren't stolen!
Yes the seller is not the one who stole these pins (as far as I know) you are are right that the police need to handle this. But the timing will be close and if they can't have the auction ended in time, then whoever the high bidder is, may be out of the pins and the money should the police find that these are the pins in question......

Police in a small town may not act as quickly as police in a bigger city, and this certainly isn't a "major heist" and it's up to that police dept to handle it in their way.

I just wanted to alert people to this situation incase there are any others out there who may be dealing with the same thing.

I am full aware if how eBay works, and that can sometimes be the problem! If someone does get badges or jewelery stolen, and someone else lists it, then all the other people who start bidding on these items have no way of knowing what the situation is.

The fact of the matter is that my friend alerted me to a situation in the so called 11th hour because they were not looking for their badges be user they had no clue they still existed....hoped, but not expected.

I am just trying to help a friend....nothing else.

[FloridaTish]

I can practically hear the Law & Order "Doink, Doink"...we need to alert Briscoe and Green.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

This is a note from my friend: "That besides priceless family pins that were stolen... Both of your friends personal badges from their F&S were stolen along with the Keys.. And most if their honor pins... PBK. ODK etc were stolen as well ... And they never dreamed after this long that anything would surface.... And are now hoping that this might lead to the recovery of their own original badges... How would they/GC feel if their original badge was stolen ? Anyone would want their original badge back... and this is the first time in over 14 years we have ever had any hope of that ever happening!"

Originally Posted by badgeguy

The same seller who when asked by the KKG historian to "donate" the pins was told to put on a bid like everyone else??

As far as the other stuff that is not stuff from my friend. The keys so far are they only things to have shown up after all these years, as for the other stuff stolen who know of any of that is still around, it may have already been melted down.....these obviously were kept because someone, whoever obtained these from the person who stole them in the first place must have thought they'd be worth something someday......

I just hope if anyone else were in this situation that there would be others willing to try and help.

Thanks
BG

Originally Posted by badgeguy

No, I have absolutely no interest in these pins, EVEN if they weren't stolen!
Yes the seller is not the one who stole these pins (as far as I know) you are are right that the police need to handle this. But the timing will be close and if they can't have the auction ended in time, then whoever the high bidder is, may be out of the pins and the money should the police find that these are the pins in question......

Police in a small town may not act as quickly as police in a bigger city, and this certainly isn't a "major heist" and it's up to that police dept to handle it in their way.

I just wanted to alert people to this situation incase there are any others out there who may be dealing with the same thing.

I am full aware if how eBay works, and that can sometimes be the problem! If someone does get badges or jewelery stolen, and someone else lists it, then all the other people who start bidding on these items have no way of knowing what the situation is.

The fact of the matter is that my friend alerted me to a situation in the so called 11th hour because they were not looking for their badges be user they had no clue they still existed....hoped, but not expected.

I am just trying to help a friend....nothing else.

Originally Posted by badgeguy

Because insurance companies cannot deal with eBay, only the police can....if they get to it in time or better, if eBay gets the message in time to do something about it.

Originally Posted by badgeguy

So if this is the case then why am I being targeted in reference to the old 1885 pin?? I'm sure the Keepers were able to get it according to your post!

But, that is a discussion for another thread....

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[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by FloridaTish

I can practically hear the Law & Order "Doink, Doink"...we need to alert Briscoe and Green.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

The same seller who when asked by the KKG historian to "donate" the pins was told to put on a bid like everyone else??

Shame on you for telling this lie and trying to tarnish the reputation of the KKG archivist.

[fascination]

Since the seller refuses to cancel the sale until this is resolved, as he could/should have done, I wonder if someone could bid really high in order to ensure that they are the high bidder and then refuse to pay until the seller can prove legal ownership. There is still 2 1/2 hours left.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by fascination

Since the seller refuses to cancel the sale until this is resolved, as he could/should have done, I wonder if someone could bid really high in order to ensure that they are the high bidder and then refuse to pay until the seller can prove legal ownership. There is still 2 1/2 hours left.

Not really an option. If the buyer refuses to pay up promptly, the badges are simply not shipped & go back up for another auction. The seller has no obligation to prove legal ownership.

It is ridiculously simple to get the auction stopped IF there is legitimate proof that they were stolen.

[badgeguy]

Originally Posted by thetalady

Shame on you for telling this lie and trying to tarnish the reputation of the KKG archivist.

I wasn't telling a lie, I was trying to point out that the seller was not even interested in ending the auction for the sorority to which these pins are from...

Shame on on YOU for inferring something other than what I wrote!!!!

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by badgeguy

I wasn't telling a lie, I was trying to point out that the seller was not even interested in ending the auction for the sorority to which these pins are from...

Shame on on YOU for inferring something other than what I wrote!!!!

I didn't infer anything. You are the bald faced liar. You wrote that the Kappa Archivist asked the seller to DONATE the badges. The fact is that she offered to pay for them.

Your time here is up. People are seeing you for the user that you are.

[SWTXBelle]

You wrote:" The same seller who when asked by the KKG historian to "donate" the pins was told to put on a bid like everyone else?? "

The lie is the use of the word "donate" - the Kappa did not ask for a donation; she asked to be allowed to purchase the badges.

This does not require inference; it is simple documented fact. It is what you wrote, in an apparent attempt to besmirch the seller.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

eta - Apparently I didn't use enough hyperbolic punctuation - here you go. !!!!????

[SWTXBelle]

The only ones who can help are the police, or perhaps the insurance company.

It's simple- get the original police report on the theft sent to ebay. I am assuming that they filed with their insurance company - you could also have the insurance company submit their report.

I've dealt with stolen merchandise on ebay before - it's easy peasy, lemon squeezey.

eta - Apparently, great Gamma Phi Beta minds think alike!