UNC Chapel Hill Recruitment

[DubaiSis]

Children and young people are not just a reflection of their parents but of society in general. I don't like your politics and therefore you are the worst person alive and not worthy of another day's worth of life is such a common sentiment on TV, radio, social media, how could an 18 year old not think along those same lines?

I can accept that regardless of how much a girls knows she shouldn't listen to tent talk, that is all but impossible where the rubber meets the road. And how could you possibly join that sorority that EVERYONE is saying is horrible. It would be so EMBARRASSING! And telling that girl that the day after rush virtually all of that talk goes away is a waste of energy. The problem, as I see it, is while there are a lot of those girls, a lot more ARE accepting their bids, so quotas are going up and COB opportunities are going down. So their unintentional snotty attitude will really bite them in the arse, especially at the biggest Greek schools. But hey, live and learn! This may be why colonies are doing well, and seemingly better than they used to. A non-entity doesn't have post after post of garbage about them so the girls are more comfortable taking the plunge.

[cinder1965]

Lovethesand is right...."awkward" is the code word for "that" house. A young woman very close to me rushed last year at a big competitive university. She had the three max pref, one that was one of her favorites. Despite my begging in all kinds of ways, she suicded to her fav, stating the other two were "awkward" and she "didn't connect". If she didn't get her fav, she would rather live off campus. Fortunately for her, she got her fav and is very happy. She is a level headed, sweet girl who is kind to everyone . I KNOW the tent talk got to her. I won't lie, I was disappointed in her but it sure brought home how much influence the tent talk has. Sigh

[amIblue?]

My contact at UNC said quota was 48.

[gatordeltapgh]

@DubaiSis I actually don't think colonies have it any better. Our Arizona colony is already getting slammed on THAT site and we haven't even had bid day yet. Meanwhile things are going great and the team is so excited about the turn out.

I don't want to derail this thread but colony leprosy is an issue. Everyone loves the expansion process, everyone loves the finalists, they are so excited to announce. Then when you get to campus all bets are off.

[Lovethesand]

Originally Posted by gatordeltapgh

@DubaiSis I actually don't think colonies have it any better. Our Arizona colony is already getting slammed on THAT site and we haven't even had bid day yet. Meanwhile things are going great and the team is so excited about the turn out.

I don't want to derail this thread but colony leprosy is an issue. Everyone loves the expansion process, everyone loves the finalists, they are so excited to announce. Then when you get to campus all bets are off.

I hear from some young people "oh, a colony will take anybody, i.e. they take the girls nobody else wanted" or "if recruitment doesn't go well, just join the colony". These are incorrect assumptions but too many young people spout this off and too many think it's correct. This thinking then follows the new chapter on THAT site and in tent talk for awhile. If the kids could only appreciate our wisdom now.

[Football Fan]

This is official from our recruitment advisor for Tri Delta at UNC.

Official quota: 48 (includes upperclass quota)

Tri Delta new members 50

[UNCalum]

Originally Posted by Lovethesand

My daughter has friends in various sororities throughout the country and I'd like to share some of their recruitment thinking which boggles the mind:

1. Almost all have visited THAT website and read what THAT website says about tiers, rankings, who is good, who is awful, etc. per THAT website. Even when told to disregard THAT website by this forum or others that website is already in their heads and the damage may already be done. I talked to a PNM who knew nothing about Greek life and she talked about that website. Once she found out about it from another PNM she visited it religiously. She read every single post about fraternities, sororities, etc. and that was her Greek bible. She even had her mom hooked on it and as she went through recruitment she referred back to THAT website. I told her and her mother there was a lot of vile garbage there and she should keep an open mind. Her daughter told my daughter that it was a bunch of old women telling them to ignore THAT website. I unfortunately think a lot of these young adults share that same sentiment about THAT site (it's the Bible) and those who tell them it ignore it (clueless, out of touch).

2. Tent talk is huge. Even when told to close your ears and not listen to tent talk the tent talk is rampant and girls hear things. Not as vile as #1 above but a similar vein.

According to my friends and their daughters half seemed to have made their minds up before they even went to school based on social media. The other half seemed to be heavily swayed by tent talk. One girl said "nobody wants to be in THAT house, they're all awkward (seems to be the current negative word)". If they can't have what they want then they'd rather do without all together. Maybe it's a princess generation but open-mindedness doesn't seem to be a strong trait for some.

This is SO true! Another fallout from this year's Recruitment is girls not accepting their bids. They preffed a house, ranked it and on bid day when they opened their envelopes....they just didn't show up at the house afterwards. The houses didn't know what to make of it. Lots of preparation (and money) had gone into bid day festivities at trampoline parks, movie theaters, farms, etc. including transportation arrangements. Lots of TIME had gone into making door decorations for dorms, nametags and crafts for new ''babies", etc. Not to mention the fact that they waited and waited before going to these places to make sure no one was left behind. It's so incredibly RUDE to just ignore a group of women that stuck their neck out for you and extended a valuable invitation to join their sisterhood. If these girls that think they are too good for the house where they were offered a bid expect to do well in next year's recruitment, they have another think coming (as my Dad would say!) Sororities talk.

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by UNCalum

This is SO true! Another fallout from this year's Recruitment is girls not accepting their bids. They preffed a house, ranked it and on bid day when they opened their envelopes....they just didn't show up at the house afterwards. The houses didn't know what to make of it. Lots of preparation (and money) had gone into bid day festivities at trampoline parks, movie theaters, farms, etc. including transportation arrangements. Lots of TIME had gone into making door decorations for dorms, nametags and crafts for new ''babies", etc. Not to mention the fact that they waited and waited before going to these places to make sure no one was left behind. It's so incredibly RUDE to just ignore a group of women that stuck their neck out for you and extended a valuable invitation to join their sisterhood. If these girls that think they are too good for the house where they were offered a bid expect to do well in next year's recruitment, they have another think coming (as my Dad would say!) Sororities talk.

Wow, just didn't show up??? That is beyond rude.

[IndianaSigKap]

I want to tell those chapters who had women not show that they will be better off in the long run without those women. I know they must have hurt feelings, but no one deserves the privilege of membership in their chapter if they are going to be as rude as to not show up. Keep your heads up ladies and you will find new members worthy of your organizations.

[als463]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

I want to tell those chapters who had women not show that they will be better off in the long run without those women. I know they must have hurt feelings, but no one deserves the privilege of membership in their chapter if they are going to be as rude as to not show up. Keep your heads up ladies and you will find new members worthy of your organizations.

See. This right here is what gets me so angry. I'm so sick of girls coming around and crying, "Poor me," and then acting like that to either my sisters in Phi Mu or any of my NPC sisters. It's obnoxious and really angers me. I agree 100% with you IndianaSigKap (as great minds think alike ) because it makes me laugh how some of these women are just "too good" for some of these organizations because on their campus--and sometimes some of these little rinky-dink campuses where Greek life is not really the end-all be-all, these GLOs are unpopular when in all actuality, if they just go over to a campus right down the road, that chapter is a top performing chapter that everyone wants. We have one sorority on my campus that was known as being "bottom" but, most of my high school went to another school nearby my hometown where that "bottom" chapter is the "top" chapter and girls are beside themselves if they don't get a bid.

NOTE: Just because it is bottom where you attend school does not mean it is bottom everywhere! No NPC could survive if that was the case! Take your bid and be thankful. If you didn't get the "top" chapter on your campus even though you are a special snowflake--but, instead you got the "bottom" chapter---open your eyes and realize there's a reason for that. Stop turning your nose up to these women like you are too good for them! Ugh!

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by als463

See. This right here is what gets me so angry. I'm so sick of girls coming around and crying, "Poor me," and then acting like that to either my sisters in Phi Mu or any of my NPC sisters. It's obnoxious and really angers me. I agree 100% with you IndianaSigKap (as great minds think alike ) because it makes me laugh how some of these women are just "too good" for some of these organizations because on their campus--and sometimes some of these little rinky-dink campuses where Greek life is not really the end-all be-all, these GLOs are unpopular when in all actuality, if they just go over to a campus right down the road, that chapter is a top performing chapter that everyone wants. We have one sorority on my campus that was known as being "bottom" but, most of my high school went to another school nearby my hometown where that "bottom" chapter is the "top" chapter and girls are beside themselves if they don't get a bid.

NOTE: Just because it is bottom where you attend school does not mean it is bottom everywhere! No NPC could survive if that was the case! Take your bid and be thankful. If you didn't get the "top" chapter on your campus even though you are a special snowflake--but, instead you got the "bottom" chapter---open your eyes and realize there's a reason for that. Stop turning your nose up to these women like you are too good for them! Ugh!

Completely agree with you and my SK sister. Preach it ladies!!!

[als463]

Originally Posted by cinder1965

Completely agree with you and my SK sister. Preach it ladies!!!

Cinder1965, thanks! I'm glad some people agree with me. That belief is what got me threatened and berated by someone in another group because I was being "unbecoming of a sorority woman" when I essentially told PNMs to stop whining and crying for not getting their #1 choice as they turned away bids from their "bottom" choices because they "didn't feel comfortable" or "have a connection" with the ladies. We really need to preach a Panhellenic spirit overall or girls will continue to go and visit THAT site and make decisions based upon what group of girls can be the most catty.

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by als463

Cinder1965, thanks! I'm glad some people agree with me. That belief is what got me threatened and berated by someone in another group because I was being "unbecoming of a sorority woman" when I essentially told PNMs to stop whining and crying for not getting their #1 choice as they turned away bids from their "bottom" choices because they "didn't feel comfortable" or "have a connection" with the ladies. We really need to preach a Panhellenic spirit overall or girls will continue to go and visit THAT site and make decisions based upon what group of girls can be the most catty.

Seriously??? Well, I just can't feel that bad for these girls who don't maximize their options and label houses without giving them a chance and forming their own opinions. I was around several girls last year going through rush and hy drove me nuts with their ranking comments.

[wcjane]

Originally Posted by als463

Cinder1965, thanks! I'm glad some people agree with me. That belief is what got me threatened and berated by someone in another group because I was being "unbecoming of a sorority woman" when I essentially told PNMs to stop whining and crying for not getting their #1 choice as they turned away bids from their "bottom" choices because they "didn't feel comfortable" or "have a connection" with the ladies. We really need to preach a Panhellenic spirit overall or girls will continue to go and visit THAT site and make decisions based upon what group of girls can be the most catty.

I apologize in advance for ranting.

As an active I don't get the "didn't feel comfortable" or "didn't have a connection" after meeting half a dozen actives in any house and deciding to drop out. PNMs are making judgments after meeting so few of us and I don't understand it. If we're being honest the entire process is crammed into a very short time period and can be very superficial so how do any of us, PNMs or actives, really get to know each other, especially complete strangers?

On Bid Day I had 3 choices and while I liked all of them, I really liked one because the 2 girls I spoke to for a total of 30 minutes had something very specific in common with me. That's why they were my favorite. Looking back at my notes they didn't even register on days 1-3. That is how fluid and quick the process is. Now being an active, knowing more girls in every house, I completely realize that house would not have been a fit for me. I trusted the process and gave it time. I'm sorry but I don't get PNMs who don't give it a shot because they think: they're better than me and my sisters (or other houses), because they think we/they are awkward (and yes, everybody uses that word and it's not in a kind way) and they don't want to be part of us/them. They take pride in saying they rejected our/their bid and would rather not join a sorority then join ours/theirs.

There is a house at my school that struggles each year to meet quota (not my house). They are beaten down on THAT awful site. I admit I thought they were awkward when I went through recruitment. I am ashamed to say that I was being superficial and petty. I've met so many of these girls and am proud to call them my friends. They are classy, involved, occasionally dorky in such a good way, funny, and true friends. They are a credit to the Panhellenic spirit and PNMs who throw away bids to this house (or houses they think are like them) are missing out on great opportunities based on the glow of recruitment.

Sorry for the rant but reading about girls not even going to Bid Day ticked me off. My mom always tells me first impressions can be misleading. She met my dad and immediately disliked him. They've been married 25 years.

[cinder1965]

Originally Posted by wcjane

I apologize in advance for ranting.

As an active I don't get the "didn't feel comfortable" or "didn't have a connection" after meeting half a dozen actives in any house and deciding to drop out. PNMs are making judgments after meeting so few of us and I don't understand it. If we're being honest the entire process is crammed into a very short time period and can be very superficial so how do any of us, PNMs or actives, really get to know each other, especially complete strangers?

On Bid Day I had 3 choices and while I liked all of them, I really liked one because the 2 girls I spoke to for a total of 30 minutes had something very specific in common with me. That's why they were my favorite. Looking back at my notes they didn't even register on days 1-3. That is how fluid and quick the process is. Now being an active, knowing more girls in every house, I completely realize that house would not have been a fit for me. I trusted the process and gave it time. I'm sorry but I don't get PNMs who don't give it a shot because they think: they're better than me and my sisters (or other houses), because they think we/they are awkward (and yes, everybody uses that word and it's not in a kind way) and they don't want to be part of us/them. They take pride in saying they rejected our/their bid and would rather not join a sorority then join ours/theirs.

There is a house at my school that struggles each year to meet quota (not my house). They are beaten down on THAT awful site. I admit I thought they were awkward when I went through recruitment. I am ashamed to say that I was being superficial and petty. I've met so many of these girls and am proud to call them my friends. They are classy, involved, occasionally dorky in such a good way, funny, and true friends. They are a credit to the Panhellenic spirit and PNMs who throw away bids to this house (or houses they think are like them) are missing out on great opportunities based on the glow of recruitment.

Sorry for the rant but reading about girls not even going to Bid Day ticked me off. My mom always tells me first impressions can be misleading. She met my dad and immediately disliked him. They've been married 25 years.

I can't add anything except, DITTO. You sound a like a mature person and a great representative of your house. I will never forget accidently stumbling on "THAT SITE" and just being shocked at mean and cruel things that are posted. Truly shocked (I don't know why) I am so sad that PNMs look at that site and see that crap.