Hello! New and Needing help! :D (Mother/Daughter sorority)

[adeleilori]

Originally Posted by greekdee

Oh, I don't think anyone was being intentionally rude, but maybe surprised? There are a lot of mothers who come to this site seeking advice, but it is usually those with girls who have reached recruitment age and are preparing to go through it.

As said by Alpha Frog, if this makes you feel closer to your daughter, no harm done. And IrishLake suggested you do a Google search for clothing. Just search Greek Wear and you'll hit several options.

It's different from your situation, but about 15 women and I have started our own little sorority for fun. Fall 2011, we all watched our first-born's go away to college. It was tough, so we started a support group. Granted, support is usually rendered by going out for margaritas after the kids return to school after a break, but we also get together and make care packages during exams.

We named ourselves the Alpha Tau Mu's, for "Always Their Moms". For short, we call ourselves the most appropriate "ATM's."

Just curious, but why Pi Delta Alpha?

Greek, was the comment below you rude? "She came out of your vagina. Isn't that bonding enough?

Pi Delta Alpha - Pretty Darn Asinine?"

to the person who wrote that, you clearly have no kids, or you would KNOW that that isn't enough.. It takes sooo much more then spreading your legs to get pregnant and then spreading them again to evacuate that child, to RAISE a child. If you're bonding stops at birth, than you yourself have a lot of work to do.


Greek, I love what you've done! I am a mom who thinks outside of the box, and I love surprising people, including my daughter! She is a very girly girl, and at 9 has so much to learn about becoming a lady! We hold old values dear in our home and she learns to cook, clean, etc. She loves to hang out and do girl things, and she has 2 brothers - little brothers and often times she gets lost in the chaos that is homeschooling with a 4 yr old and a 1 yr old. She is a HUGE help and I want to reward her. She has been a member of other girls clubs and loves them, but I guess 9 is about that age, when mommy becomes very important and she's wanting us to do things together. We've always done dates, etc. But I know what she likes and she would absolutely LOVE to feel like her and mommy have something cute, exculsive and seperate from the boys! lol! She adores the Proverbs 31 woman description, so I came up with Pi Delta Alpha, since Pi is the first letter of Proverbs in greek, the Delta triangle to me represents the trinity (Father, Son, Holy ghost) and# 3 (I'm thinking of changing it to Gamma though), and Alpha for The God head and # 1 = Pi, Proverbs; Delta[or gamma], 3; Alpha, 1. I think we'll be incorporating some of these things as well: http://www.p31girl.com/P31/P31_Welcome.html, and we're just looking forward to having a good time together.

Heavens to betsy, now that I've spewed some details.. let me brace myself for the comments from the others.. :/ !

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by adeleilori

http://www.p31girl.com/P31/P31_Welcome.html!

This website looks like pink threw up. If you're interested in P31, try this one: http://www.proverbs31.org/ My good friend LeAnn is the Executive Director and they are all awesome.

[adeleilori]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

This website looks like pink threw up. If you're interested in P31, try this one: http://www.proverbs31.org/ My good friend LeAnn is the Executive Director and they are all awesome.

Thanks! "Pink Threw up!" ha! It may just be you're uhhh, .... laid back approach to expressing yourself?? that had me thinking you're comment was rude? lol! I see you've got a way with words.. LOL!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by adeleilori

Thanks! "Pink Threw up!" ha! It may just be you're uhhh, .... laid back approach to expressing yourself?? that had me thinking you're comment was rude? lol! I see you've got a way with words.. LOL!

I fully admit to having sarcastic tendencies. Pink throw up could be taken as rude, or taken as a "to each his own, but not for me". Unless it's your website, it doesn't really matter. Either way, I'm pretty flippant around here and don't take much said here seriously...most of us are that way, which is why I think you perceived things different than we meant them.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by adeleilori

http://www.p31girl.com/P31/P31_Welcome.html

From what I can tell, this website teaches girls about Christ using antiquated "princess" stereotypes about women. So, my assumption is that you would essentially be looking to "princessify" the idea of a sorority, and that is distasteful to me, and probably a lot of others here.

[adeleilori]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

From what I can tell, this website teaches girls about Christ using antiquated "princess" stereotypes about women. So, my assumption is that you would essentially be looking to "princessify" the idea of a sorority, and that is distasteful to me, and probably a lot of others here.

Well, I won't be doing any of that now.. because I had no idea of how deep this all ran.. I was just looking for some letters! LOL! I promise that's it! But now I know that it is offensive and becasue I dont want to offend, I'm just gonna go with some little club idea for her..

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by adeleilori

Greek, was the comment below you rude? "She came out of your vagina. Isn't that bonding enough?

Pi Delta Alpha - Pretty Darn Asinine?"

to the person who wrote that, you clearly have no kids, or you would KNOW that that isn't enough.. It takes sooo much more then spreading your legs to get pregnant and then spreading them again to evacuate that child, to RAISE a child. If you're bonding stops at birth, than you yourself have a lot of work to do.

>>>Evacuate a child?

Greek, I love what you've done! I am a mom who thinks outside of the box, and I love surprising people, including my daughter! She is a very girly girl, and at 9 has so much to learn about becoming a lady! We hold old values dear in our home and she learns to cook, clean, etc. She loves to hang out and do girl things, and she has 2 brothers - little brothers and often times she gets lost in the chaos that is homeschooling with a 4 yr old and a 1 yr old. She is a HUGE help and I want to reward her. She has been a member of other girls clubs and loves them, but I guess 9 is about that age, when mommy becomes very important and she's wanting us to do things together. We've always done dates, etc. But I know what she likes and she would absolutely LOVE to feel like her and mommy have something cute, exculsive and seperate from the boys! lol! She adores the Proverbs 31 woman description, so I came up with Pi Delta Alpha, since Pi is the first letter of Proverbs in greek, the Delta triangle to me represents the trinity (Father, Son, Holy ghost) and# 3 (I'm thinking of changing it to Gamma though), and Alpha for The God head and # 1 = Pi, Proverbs; Delta[or gamma], 3; Alpha, 1. I think we'll be incorporating some of these things as well: http://www.p31girl.com/P31/P31_Welcome.html, and we're just looking forward to having a good time together.

Heavens to betsy, now that I've spewed some details.. let me brace myself for the comments from the others.. :/ !

I'm guessing you're "training" her to be a submissive helpmeet for her headship of a husband?

Aren't sororities too "worldly" for someone like you?

[adeleilori]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

I'm guessing you're "training" her to be a submissive helpmeet for her headship of a husband?

Aren't sororities too "worldly" for someone like you?

I am actually not trying to start a sorority, but I didn't know that until these earlier ladies helped me out by making clear the deeper meaning behind all of it. I am looking at more of a "club" and I don't need greek letters for that, like I thought I did initially. I'm simply forming something that she and I can share. Thank you so much for being respectful, I really appreciate that!

[adeleilori]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

I'm guessing you're "training" her to be a submissive helpmeet for her headship of a husband?

Aren't sororities too "worldly" for someone like you?

oh! and the reason I mentioned "evacuating" the child, is because that's what the POSTER of the previous comment made it out to be..

[adeleilori]

Doesnt matter how old you are, rude is rude! You seemed to have ignored the rest of my message, and only held the the ONE sentence that talks about the amjority of you being young.. (I was just making excuses for the ladeis rudeness.. the fact that you're older actually makes it worse! ha!)

And Irish Lake, are you saying that what YOUR soririties are about is what ALL sororities are about? Because I woudl venture to guess that different sororities are in place for their own purposes, some social, some acedemic, some for philanthopy, some a combination of all, etc.. So, why judge me without even knowing the details of what I am trying to do for MY daughter? matter of fact, why judge me at all! I don't judge people for what they decide is good for their kids! Because YOU'RE daughter wouldn't enjoy a club, doesn't mean other little girls wouldn't. I have no problem bonding, but I know that this would make the experience even more fun for her! SO, I'm willing to go there! I'm glad I didn't give details of the purpose and plan for our little cub, because those ideas would have most certainly been cut down by everyone as well! lol!


Alpha, yes, this has caused me to stoop to new levels rather than be the bigger "woman", but I do have a hard time with being rudely judged.. It's something I'm working on..

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by adeleilori

Doesnt matter how old you are, rude is rude! You seemed to have ignored the rest of my message, and only held the the ONE sentence that talks about the amjority of you being young.. (I was just making excuses for the ladeis rudeness.. the fact that you're older actually makes it worse! ha!)

And Irish Lake, are you saying that what YOUR soririties are about is what ALL sororities are about? Because I woudl venture to guess that different sororities are in place for their own purposes, some social, some acedemic, some for philanthopy, some a combination of all, etc.. So, why judge me without even knowing the details of what I am trying to do for MY daughter? matter of fact, why judge me at all! I don't judge people for what they decide is good for their kids! Because YOU'RE daughter wouldn't enjoy a club, doesn't mean other little girls wouldn't. I have no problem bonding, but I know that this would make the experience even more fun for her! SO, I'm willing to go there! I'm glad I didn't give details of the purpose and plan for our little cub, because those ideas would have most certainly been cut down by everyone as well! lol!


Alpha, yes, this has caused me to stoop to new levels rather than be the bigger "woman", but I do have a hard time with being rudely judged.. It's something I'm working on..

No one was rude or judging until you got rude. "Why" is a valid question. Why a sorority? There are PLENTY of mother-daughter activities out there. Why do something for which you obviously have a disdain?

Also, learn to type. You're a mom, you should be teaching your daughter to communicate properly, and children learn by example.

[adeleilori]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

No one was rude or judging until you got rude. "Why" is a valid question. Why a sorority? There are PLENTY of mother-daughter activities out there. Why do something for which you obviously have a disdain?

Also, learn to type. You're a mom, you should be teaching your daughter to communicate properly, and children learn by example.

Obviously have a disdain??? where did you get THAT from.. I have no disdain for sororities.. If you had asked why in a decent manner (like you just did above), then that would have been completely different, but to interject that starting one is what is needed to make me feel closer to my daughter? That is rude. for the record, I'm doing it for HER, not me..

and ps. lets act our age, ok? Everyone knows that in typing quickly, you may have typos. I don't bother going back to correct them since I have a one year old in my lap, but I know they're there.. I'm not gonna stoop to your level and be offended by that rude & unnecessary comment. I'm actually a journalist by trade, so don't worry.. my daughter is covered!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by adeleilori

Obviously have a disdain??? where did you get THAT from.. I have no disdain for sororities.. If you had asked why in a decent manner (like you just did above), then that would have been completely different, but to interject that starting one is what is needed to make me feel closer to my daughter? That is rude. for the record, I'm doing it for HER, not me..

and ps. lets act our age, ok? Everyone knows that in typing quickly, you may have typos. I don't bother going back to correct them since I have a one year old in my lap, but I know they're there.. I'm not gonna stoop to your level and be offended by that rude & unnecessary comment. I'm actually a journalist by trade, so don't worry.. my daughter is covered!

Telling us that our sisters are "pretend" shows disdain for Greek life. We DID ask you why in a decent manner before you got rude.

As to the bold....holy crap.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by princessamy

I would be concerned if my mom would do this much for me and I'm in college. My mom would tell me to get over myself and find something else to do with my time aka focus on my education. Another question, how old is your daughter?

Originally Posted by adeleilori

Greek, I love what you've done! I am a mom who thinks outside of the box, and I love surprising people, including my daughter! She is a very girly girl, and at 9 has so much to learn about becoming a lady! We hold old values dear in our home and she learns to cook, clean, etc. She loves to hang out and do girl things, and she has 2 brothers - little brothers and often times she gets lost in the chaos that is homeschooling with a 4 yr old and a 1 yr old. She is a HUGE help and I want to reward her. She has been a member of other girls clubs and loves them, but I guess 9 is about that age, when mommy becomes very important and she's wanting us to do things together. We've always done dates, etc. But I know what she likes and she would absolutely LOVE to feel like her and mommy have something cute, exculsive and seperate from the boys! lol! She adores the Proverbs 31 woman description, so I came up with Pi Delta Alpha, since Pi is the first letter of Proverbs in greek, the Delta triangle to me represents the trinity (Father, Son, Holy ghost) and# 3 (I'm thinking of changing it to Gamma though), and Alpha for The God head and # 1 = Pi, Proverbs; Delta[or gamma], 3; Alpha, 1. I think we'll be incorporating some of these things as well: http://www.p31girl.com/P31/P31_Welcome.html, and we're just looking forward to having a good time together.

Heavens to betsy, now that I've spewed some details.. let me brace myself for the comments from the others.. :/ !

Call me crazy, but aren't most 9 year olds wanting to be in clubs and such to establish a separate identity from their parents?

[als463]

Originally Posted by adeleilori

Doesnt matter how old you are, rude is rude! You seemed to have ignored the rest of my message, and only held the the ONE sentence that talks about the amjority of you being young.. (I was just making excuses for the ladeis rudeness.. the fact that you're older actually makes it worse! ha!)

And Irish Lake, are you saying that what YOUR soririties are about is what ALL sororities are about? Because I woudl venture to guess that different sororities are in place for their own purposes, some social, some acedemic, some for philanthopy, some a combination of all, etc.. So, why judge me without even knowing the details of what I am trying to do for MY daughter? matter of fact, why judge me at all! I don't judge people for what they decide is good for their kids! Because YOU'RE daughter wouldn't enjoy a club, doesn't mean other little girls wouldn't. I have no problem bonding, but I know that this would make the experience even more fun for her! SO, I'm willing to go there! I'm glad I didn't give details of the purpose and plan for our little cub, because those ideas would have most certainly been cut down by everyone as well! lol!


Alpha, yes, this has caused me to stoop to new levels rather than be the bigger "woman", but I do have a hard time with being rudely judged.. It's something I'm working on..

Fast typing or not...not knowing how to differentiate between "you're" and "your" makes me question your career as a journalist. For whom do you write??? I'll be the "meanie" and say it...Wanting a "sorority" with your daughter (as in making one up and not enjoying a legacy situation with her joining the sorority of your collegiate years) = weird and somewhat helicopter-mommy in a sense. It does remind me of the cheerleaders, dance moms, or pageant moms who want to live vicariously through their children.

Coming on to a Greek (sorority and fraternity) website and telling many well-educated people that they continue the tradition of making sorority girls look like airheads makes you look really stupid. Yes, STUPID! If you think there is this tradition of us sorority girls looking like airheads then WHY would you want to make up a sorority for you and your daughter to be able to call yourselves sorority girls? Do you want to be part of that airheaded tradition? You are some piece of work, lady.