Is it true that Theta is very exclusive?

[AEPhi-QTPie]

Well said, KappaGirl00...Rock on!

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Phi Love,
AEPhiSteph

[AEPhi-QTPie]

Well said, KappaGirl00...Rock on!

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Phi Love,
AEPhiSteph

[twinstars]

Originally posted by dzrose93:
Hey everybody! Calm down a little. I think what twinstars was trying to say was basically this: if you're interested in pledging a sorority, you should put yourself in a position to be noticed by the sisters (i.e., attending philanthropic and social events hosted by the chapter). Also, while you're there, make sure that you carry yourself like a lady (i.e., don't show up completely trashed and act obnoxious). Just try to make a good impression - that's all. Am I right, twinstars?

Yes, I don't understand why everyone was so appalled with what I had to say.

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by twinstars:
Yes, I don't understand why everyone was so appalled with what I had to say.

Okay, here is what I took these comments to mean:

"We are strong in lots of different parts of the country, but other sororities could probably also claim that."

Meaning to me: Theta is really strong, but others "could probably" claim that too? Of course the strength of a chapter will depend on many factors -- not just where it is physically located, but also the quality of girls, the GPA factor, the philanthropy aspect, etc. Of course EVERY org can claim to be strong in certain places, while that same org will be weak in others. Theta is not "exclusive" because they are strong in some places. They aren't strong here at all, and I never even knew about Theta until I met a girl in grad school.

"Legacy can make a difference, but only if we like you anyway."

Meaning to me: "If we don't like you, you're screwed." It just sounded really tacky in these words. Let peopl do their own search on legacies -- Lord knows we have PLENTY of topics already on that one! Legacies are important - it is important that the girl fit with the sorority, and vice versa -- if not, then no one wins. But I will say this, if my daughter, niece, whatever is not considered for membership by a chapter, I would expect the appropriate explanation from that chapter to follow. I have dedicated a great deal of my life to my org, and I want to instill that respect into my children and other legacy potentials.

If the Thetas have mixers that open to the public at a certain time, show up looking cute and not overly drunk."

Meaning to me: "Its okay if you show up a little drunk, just not completely wasted. Oh and please look cute - we don't want any street people crashing our party." For the chapters of AX that I have been involved with, the number one thing we look for during the weeks prior to rush is who shows up drunk at frat parties. If you show up drunk -- even if you aren't "overly" drunk --I can promise you that you will be on the top of the "No" list. That's not cool -- sure we drink and have good times together, but we don't like to have our list of "Good Qualities" to include "drunk, but not overly so" -- I am sorry for the sarcasm (okay, not really), but dang -- we NPC'ers already catch enough slack from people for showing our shallow sides more often than not. This doesn't help us out any! (And, by the way, when our girls come back from summer, its about 4 weeks before rush, and we are completely dry -- no drinking at parties, no mixers, etc. D-R-Y --- we don't want our sisters giving the image out that "Hey - come be one of us -- look at how drunk we can get in public"....I'm not saying that other orgs do, I'm just saying that this is our commitment to being responsible greeks and putting our best foot forward in preparation for rush).

So that is my personal deal with some of the comments made -- the others I spoke of in previous posts. (Note the definition of 2b - snobbishly aloof) -- exclusive sounds like some uppity butt club where you have to produce a list of your lineage and be "voted" in based on what others have been versus what you are. That's not a very flattering image for ANY org to produce in hopes of gaining membership.

And again...say it with me my fellow GC'ers...S-E-A-R-C-H! Here's a little song to help us all remember (to the "Let It Snow" tune for those of you musically inclined to sing along):

Oh the repeat posts are frightful
To do a search is so delightful...
So don't leave the regulars in a lurch...
do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH!!

It doesn't show signs of stopping
And our attitudes all are 'copping
My favorite tree is the birch...so
do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH!!

~~Thank you, thank you very much -- don't forget to tip your waitress, and remember - the 9 o'clock show is completely the same...~~

For "The SEARCH is Right", this is Bob Moderator and AXO Alum reminding you to help control the POST population -- have your posts spayed or neutered...goodbye everybody!

[gphi2k]

Originally posted by AXO Alum:



Oh the repeat posts are frightful
To do a search is so delightful...
So don't leave the regulars in a lurch...
do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH!!

It doesn't show signs of stopping
And our attitudes all are 'copping
My favorite tree is the birch...so
do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH, do a SEARCH!!

~~Thank you, thank you very much -- don't forget to tip your waitress, and remember - the 9 o'clock show is completely the same...~~

LOL
AXO. You never ever ever cease to enlighten my mind and to make my sides split open with absolute hysteria. WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH STUFF????. One comment is always funnier than the next! (and more sarastic too! ).

As far as the above topic....here's my two cents. I think starting threads, like this one, even if genuinely interested (which I'm sure bubbles is) is a recipe for disaster.

As us regulars have seen ALL too often, when you ask a question on any particular house such as 'is it popular?' 'is it difficult to get into?' 'what's it's rep on your campus' et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, you're gonna get flamed, or start a flame. Because you can't just ask a question on a org's reputation in any way without SOME controversy starting somewhere.

So, in the future, here is my advice. If you really wanna know about Theta, and their exclusivity, or lack there of, or reputation or how many chapters or if their girls have predominatly red hair and green eyes, go to the THETA forum and ask them. Kappas or Gammas or Sigmas aren't going to say 'yah, it's impossible to get into theta!'. And if, let's say, Theta does have some rules on exclusivity we don't know about, they're not gonna tell you in open forums like greek life. (Not saying Theta does of course, but a question like 'are they exclusive?' can only answered by 'no' or by answers saying 'yes, yes we are' which of course, doesn't look so good to the rest of us greeks and non-greeks) So ask the Thetas or e-mail one personally. and ask AXO_Alum so eloquently said help control the POST population -- have your posts spayed or neutered...goodbye everybody!

[This message has been edited by gphi2k (edited April 20, 2001).]

[bucutie02]

Originally posted by kappagirl00:
And maybe that's why outsiders PERCEIVE these groups as being more "exclusive." Anyone in the Greek system should know that all chapters are different, and that nationally all groups are great, and no one org is more exclusive than another when it all gets averaged out

Kappagirl,
I completely agree with you- outsiders may perceive sororities on their campus as more exclusive than others- but in reality all chapters are different. Also, i agree with you about how members of the greek system should know this, but lets keep in mind that Theta-Cutie was the one that said yes, nationally it is exclusive.

I am not greek and i even know not to say that. Once again, I am fully 100% behind AXO Alum- she hit it right on the button- as always!!

AXO Alum- you are way too funny! love ya!

[HeidiHo]

Bubbles- If I remember correctly, you aren't even in college yet, right? Not that it's a big deal, but I wanted to point out that deciding which sorority you'd like to join before going to college, or going through recruitment, is a bit premature. It's great that you are thinking ahead, but let your heart lead you during recruitment. Every night during my rush I had a different top pick. Relax and let things flow, you'll end up where you were meant to be.
Best of luck!
Heidi

[bubbles17]

Thank you everyone for responding. I'm sorry that I started this therad anyway...and by the way, I DID post it also in the Theta forum--it's just that not many ppl access that forum, and I would think more replies would be here.

Anyway--I'm really disappointed/sorry that many of you think that Theta-cutie and twinstars' comment were "shallow" or whichever you think. I totally understand what twinstars means when she says "show up looking cute and not overly drunk." She basically means, I think, that you want to look NEAT and PRESENTABLE and not drunk. How is that wrong???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLus, when Theta-cutie says that they don't just pick anyone, and when twinstars says that NOT EVERY legacy will be pledged IF the Thetas do not get along with them...HOW IS THAT WRONG???? If the Thetas do not get along with a legacy--I don't care if it's a double, triple legacy (I'm a KKG triple legacy BTW!), if the sisters don't like her, how could she be happy in the soroity anyhow??

Theta-cutie has already e-mailed me about Theta--and I am VERY grateful to her. She does not, nor does twinstars, come off to me as "snobby" or whatever you guys might think. She is a very nice person--and think about this--she wrote her post at arounde 3:44 AM--she might have been a little tired, you know. I also agree with kappagirl--she prolly meant that Theta is more WELL-KNOWN. If you read over her post again, she DID say that each chapter is different. And twinstars advice I thought was VERY helpful, at least for a prospective! It's too bad that you guys don't see that!

HeidiHo, thank you!!! Yes, I'm a HS senior--I will try to go into rUsh with an open mind--but I know many Thetas and they are so cool!

P.S.--I HAVE tried the Search Button! I've done a search on Theta--and I clicked on numberous threads about their "exclusitivity" or "eliteness" and my computer turned up Errors. So please--I DID indeed search before I posted.

P.P.S.--Is it true that Thetas that are active (college) cannot write recs for you? All the Thetas that I know are in college!

[twinstars]

I'm pretty sure 33girl is right about who can write recs... I think current (initiated) Thetas are OK as long as they're not at the college where you'll be rushing. Other sororities may not allow actives to give recs, I'm not sure.

[This message has been edited by twinstars (edited April 21, 2001).]

[shadokat]

Twinstars, I was not appalled by your post on looking cute or being overly drunk. Heck, I wasn't even talking about the overly drunk part. I just hate that we all think every sorority girl has to be this "cute" thing. My advice to every woman choosing to go through recruitment is be yourself. You don't need a Prada bag and Bebe black pants to get into a sorority. And you shouldn't. That is all I was trying to say.

In response to what someone else said about Theta and KKG and such being more "well-known" sororities, I think that is really a regional thing, because I never heard of Theta or KKG until I graduated and started doing NPC stuff for my national. We had ASA, AST, Tri Sig, Phi Sig and D Phi E... most of which would fall into your "lesser known" sororities. I think this just sort of varies by what area you're in.

In any case, to AXO, you missed your calling as a stand up comedian, so quit your job now and get yourself an agent And to bubbles, if Theta is what you want, then go out and get it I wish you the best in your search when you get to college!

[33girl]

Originally posted by AXO Alum:
For "The SEARCH is Right", this is Bob Moderator and AXO Alum reminding you to help control the POST population -- have your posts spayed or neutered...goodbye everybody!

OMG, AXO Alum - I really hope you have applied for a job at Saturday Night Live. If not, you've missed your calling!!

As everyone knows, I bloody hate these "what do you think of" threads, because even if there are 20 people with good comments, there will be the one ding-dong who has something rotten to say that will get hashed over and blown out of proportion. My advice is if you really love your or another fraternity or sorority, don't subject it to one of these threads.

As far as the "exclusivity" issue, looking at Theta's website it seems like several of the schools they are at are more "exclusive" themselves (like Harvard and Johns Hopkins). I would wager they made a conscious effort to have, say, one chapter at Harvard instead of 3 chapters at less prestigious schools. Every sorority has a different expansion philosophy - but I don't even want to get into that topic since I did a quasi-vent on it yesterday. However, I'm sure that Theta, just like EVERY sorority, has chapters that have women banging on the door to get in and chapters that struggle.

I think twinstars was trying to say what we all say - be yourself but put on your best face during rush. If you're going to an event where lots of your hopeful-future sisters will be, don't show up in dirty sweats with last night's eyeliner on your face. Heck, you shouldn't do that anyway, just out of respect for yourself.

Bubbles - I answered this in your other post but I'll go again - I think that collegians can write recs, but NOT if the girl is rushing their chapter. It sounds like you are really psyched about Theta, but keep an open mind and check out the other sororities too. Even if they don't become your sisters, they could still become good friends!

[AEPhi-QTPie]

Originally posted by 33girl:
...Every sorority has a different expansion philosophy - but I don't even want to get into that topic since I did a quasi-vent on it yesterday...

33girl...Get outta my brain! Seriously though, would you mind an email chat about "expansion philosophy"? I would really like another perspective on the subject.



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Phi Love,
AEPhiSteph

[33girl]

Originally posted by AEPhi-QTPie:
33girl...Get outta my brain! Seriously though, would you mind an email chat about "expansion philosophy"? I would really like another perspective on the subject.

Steph - my addy's in my profile. Let's chat it up!!

[carrot]

Hey Bubbles,

LIke many have said, if you want Theta, go for it hon!! Nobody is stopping you. But on the other hand--always keep an open mind while rushing--who knows, you might end up with a dream sorority that you had never relaly tought about before! BTW, call me nosy , but what about Kappa? I'm a Kappa--and I see that you are a triple Kappa legacy .

About Theta being exclusive--I don't know if "exclusive" is the right word. Theta cretainly has a very high reputation, IMHO, nationally. But like many have said, their reputation/exclusivity/etc. all vary from chapter to chapter. The thetas I know are superb--Kappa and Theta on my campus are rivals, but very good friends nevertheless! The Thetas all are intelligent, beautiful!, nice, sweet, fun to be around...and the list goes on! HTH, good luck with Rush!

[shadokat]

33girl, you know I want in on this too!! AEPhi, 33 and I regularly chat about these ideas Care if I join you all? Copy me!

Originally posted by AEPhi-QTPie:
33girl...Get outta my brain! Seriously though, would you mind an email chat about "expansion philosophy"? I would really like another perspective on the subject.