Red Tails

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963

Especially back then. It really didn't matter, because if dude would have brought her back to the states, they would have lynched is black ass LOL. That would have been one Italian speaking mofo, because that's exactly where he was going to stay if he lived. I was cracking up at that part. My girl, and some other black women in the movie were talking shit when dude was diggin that white girl. Especially the part when he said "you're so beautiful" because some other dude said the same shit about white girl in Miracle at St. Anna, that Spike Lee movie. I personally really don't understand that shit either (interacial dating), but to each it's own.

My friends and I agreed that the actress who played the Italian woman was not "so beautiful" but it is all a matter of perspective. The interracial relationship did not bother me because many soldiers had Black wives and Black children in the states, nonBlack lovers overseas, and all sorts of things.

[Cen1aur 1963]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

My friends and I agreed that the actress who played the Italian woman was not "so beautiful" but it is all a matter of perspective. The interracial relationship did not bother me because many soldiers had Black wives and Black children in the states, nonBlack lovers overseas, and all sorts of things.

LOL, I thought she was hit. Her face was all long n' shit. See, but that's the issue I have. Not so much with black dudes dating white girls per se, but I'm talking about black dudes who will pass up a fine black woman, for a mediocre white girl. What trips me out about movies like that is they always show black dude in awe about white girl, on his knees n' shit, etc. like she's the most beautiful thing to walk the planet. It just makes me think back to that movie about the KKK going after black dudes who messed with white girls. I can't think of the name of the movie, but it came out in the 20s and it was saying that black dudes crave, and rape white women, when we all know that shit was the other way around. I've seen some attractive white girls, but (to me) there's always a finer black woman. But then again, I'm just not as attracted to white girls like I am to black women. I feel you though. A lot of black soldiers did have black wives back in the states.

I'll get back to the movie because I don't want this thread to turn into a race thread LOL.

[PrettyBoy]

I was surprised at how action packed the movie was. When I saw the previews I thought it was too good to be true. I thought they were only going to show a few fighting scenes, but the movie was jam packed with special effects, which is what I look for in an action packed movie.

[SOM]

Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963

Especially back then. It really didn't matter, because if dude would have brought her back to the states, they would have lynched is black ass LOL. That would have been one Italian speaking mofo, because that's exactly where he was going to stay if he lived. I was cracking up at that part. My girl, and some other black women in the movie were talking shit when dude was diggin that white girl. Especially the part when he said "you're so beautiful" because some other dude said the same shit about white girl in Miracle at St. Anna, that Spike Lee movie. I personally really don't understand that shit either (interacial dating), but to each its own.

Which maybe the reason, as shown in the movie, they would have remained in Italy.

[SOM]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Thanks for sharing, SOM. This is the first time I have read a detailed post in which you shared your own thoughts. I appreciate it.

I agree about the history part. I posted about that in the current movies thread. I do not expect movies and especially mainstream movies to be exact. They will take liberties. If people want to learn the true history behind the Tuskegee Airmen they need to watch a documentary, read some books, etc.

A very good point about movies and history. A rather good example that does fit this thread is Patton. The opening speech was real. It was not made clear to whom he was delivering it to.
"Contrary to the movie Patton, it was to the black tankers of the 761st that Patton delivered his famous speech.
“Men, you are the first Negro tankers to ever fight in the American army,” he began. “I have nothing but the best in my army. I don’t care what color you are, so long as you go up there and kill the Kraut sonsofbitches. Everyone has their eyes on you, and is expecting great things of you. Most of all, your race is looking forward to your success. Don’t let them down, and, G—damn you, don’t let me down. They say it is patriotic to die for your country. Well, let’s see how many patriots we can make out of those German sonsofbitches.”
Patton was a man to be taken seriously.
“There is one thing you men will be able to say when you go home,” he concluded. ‘You may all thank God that thirty years from now when you are sitting with your grandson on your knee and he asks, ‘Grandfather, what did you do in World War II? you won’t have to say, ‘I shoveled shit in Mississippi.’”"
Unit became known as Patton's Black Panthers.
http://www.commandposts.com/2011/07/...ould-not-quit/

And as I posted, there were more segregated units, all who fought more than one good fight.
The 442nd Regimental Combat Team, made up of Nisei Soldiers, fought in the ETO while members of families where back home in "camps". As did over 5000 Nisei who worked in the PTO as translators, interpreters, interrogators and even combat infantrymen when needed.

There were also over 2500 Black Marines who fought in the PTO as well.

Several other units as well.

[SOM]

This is the first time I have ever seen something like this-
The cast of Red Tails saying Thank You:
http://www.youtube.com/redtailsmovie...howcase_2108_1

Among other things, very smart marketing move.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by SOM

And that it had this inter-racial relationship instead which is rude to "sistahs".

How dare these men not start relationships with sistahs who weren't in the country they were stationed. Is it just me or do educated people seem to often need something for which to crusade?

Originally Posted by SOM

This is the first time I have ever seen something like this-
The cast of Red Tails saying Thank You:
http://www.youtube.com/redtailsmovie...howcase_2108_1

Among other things, very smart marketing move.

I agree. And they're just so darn fun to look at...

[DrPhil]

Soror Mary McLeod Bethune, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Willa Beatrice Brown

http://www.theroot.com/views/three-w...t-out?page=0,1

This thread is a review/discussion of the movie and all things pertaining to the Tuskegee Airmen. There are older GC threads that have some info on the Tuskegee Airmen.

Has anyone ever seen this Broadway play?
http://www.blackangelsovertuskegee.com/

[DrPhil]

I knew I was not the only person who found the one-liners to be corny and the narrative to be flat.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-c...&wa=wsignin1.0

The first 10 minutes of the movie made me cringe in embarassment and by the end of the movie I had a mix of celebratory pride and embarassment over kind of a halfassed movie release. My friends have asked me how I liked the movie as they prepare to go see it: It has its ups and downs, it works for what it is, you will know what I mean when you see it. I gave it 3 out of 4 stars just for the history, the point behind it all, and the mere fact that I love to see Black actors. It wasn't horrible. It just wasn't awesome.

I talked to a guy last night about supporting the movie by actually paying to see it. I don't believe in stealing movies by watching them on the Internet or purchasing a bootleg. But, if Black folks insist, steal The Help but support Red Tails by paying to see it.