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02-12-2012, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTexanYankee
please elaborate. i think i was being pretty honest
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Actually, TY, you came across as misinformed, and reminiscent of the same troll(s) who doesn't use punctuation but spouts off lots of gobbledygook and then tries to stir things up. From the sound of your post, I doubt you went through recruitment at UT, and I suspect you might not even be eligible for sorority recruitment due to a missing leg on a chromosome.
*yawn*
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02-12-2012, 03:22 PM
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from what I've heard sorority rush at Texas isn't the most enjoyable experience.
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Mostly this. You are giving a lot of absolute answers when you apparently haven't experienced it yourself.
To think that nobody, or in particular the girls who want to be in sororities but for whatever reason can't will be miserable throughout college is simply retarded. I loved my collegiate sorority life but to think that a girl would not been able to find her niche otherwise is assuming she is extremely one dimensional.
A lot of girls LOVE rush, wouldn't trade that experience for anything in their lives. It is extremely hard work, it's exhausting both mentally and physically, and it's so very stressful, but that doesn't mean women don't love it.
Here at GC we don't believe in "selling" the concept of tiers or where you are doomed to fall within that structure. And for all the stories out there about how you had to go to this or that school or camp, there are plenty of other stories about girls who came in clueless and far away from home and happily found their sisterhood in one of "those" chapters.
Also, your sentence structure is appalling and you have no apparent understanding of capitalization.
"...due to a missing leg on a chromosome" LOVING THAT.
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02-12-2012, 03:29 PM
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please elaborate. i think i was being pretty honest
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1. i don't really understand the point of rushing if you know you won't be able to join. from what I've heard sorority rush at Texas isn't the most enjoyable experience. anyways, sorry to say it but the people saying you won't feel left our are wrong. yea theres plenty of non greek kids who have a great time at UT but they never wanted to join a sorority/fraternity. if you want to join one but can't its gonna be impossible to ignoring them. honestly, i dunno what your situation is but I'm sure theres a way you could afford it if you want it bad enough. take out an extra student loan, sell a kidney. don't let a few thousand dollars get in the way of your college experience.
2. yea all girls are always welcome at fraternity parties. however i doubt you'll have much fun at them as an independent. you're gonna have a hard time meeting guys in fraternities, and you'll be surrounded by sorority girls, so you probably won't know many people at them. also fraternities announce their parties at sorority houses, so you're gonna have a hard time finding parties unless you're friends with an active.
3. sorority rush sucks, its not something you do for fun. you spend the entire day walking around in the heat to the various sorority houses to meet the chapters. girls take it seriously and its not uncommon for them to hire rush advisors who teach them how to go through the process. where you went to hs is extremely important as it dictates the highest tier sorority you have a shot at getting. sorority rush is essentially a test to see if you mess up, a bad rush will move you down the tiers, or lose you a bid, but a good rush won't move you any higher up than where you started. i get rushing a fraternity even if you can't join for the free booze and parties but rushing a sorority knowing you can't join honestly doesn't make much sense
I'm sorry if those weren't the answers you wanted but I'm trying to be honest with you. As i said if you want to join a sorority don't let a few grand get in the way. a large portion of dues are for meals so if your parents are planning on paying for your food they might be willing to help out with dues. also living in the house is significantly cheaper than dorms and apartments.
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Firstly, everything AzTheta said.
Going off what I bolded:
You are posting hearsay vs some people on here who have first hand experience at UT.
There are many more ways to get help than taking out a loan. Many orgs have scholarship programs. However this makes you sound like an airhead who has had mommy and daddy pay for everything. Loans are serious. Some people can't take out loans because they will be screwed over with payments and cannot pay them back in addition to all their other school loans.
I realize that I don't have first hand experience at UT, but with everything I have read on this site and my experience at multiple universities, being Greek does not stop you from being friends with people who are not Greek. People make friends in classes and other clubs/organizations. It is possible to go to parties as a non-Greek and have a great time.
Talking of tiers is idiotic. Tiers are superficial and don't really exist. If you want to make enemies on this site, continue to talk of them. Even if tiers did exist, who the f* cares? Oh damn XYZ was better than us so I will always be below them. No. Stop. That is low self confidence. The "smaller, less desirable" (if you will) chapters often have the best sisterhood. Not saying the large ones don't, this is just an observation of mine.
Pretty much the only thing I did agree with in your post was that living in is often cheaper housing.
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02-12-2012, 03:39 PM
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if you want to join one but can't its gonna be impossible to ignoring [sic] them.
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According to Wikipedia, only 14 percent of nearly 40,000 UT undergrads are Greek. This isn't DePauw.
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02-12-2012, 03:42 PM
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According to Wikipedia, only 14 percent of nearly 40,000 UT undergrads are Greek. This isn't DePauw.
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Not to mention -- UT is in AUSTIN. If you can't find ANY friends or have a social life in a city of 700k, I doubt you'll be a social butterfly when you join a sorority.
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02-12-2012, 02:55 PM
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Thanks, AnotherKD for letting me know I'm not crazy. That was my thought exactly.
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02-12-2012, 03:58 PM
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OMG if you aren't from Highland Park you are dooooooooooooooooooomed!
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02-12-2012, 04:18 PM
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02-12-2012, 05:43 PM
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1. i said that from what ive been told by my friends who went through rush here is that its not the most enjoyable experience. thats hardly an absolute answer, rather an opinion of girls who rushed. i think i made it clear that i didn't experience it myself.
2. i never said she would be miserable, in fact i never even said she would feel left out. i simply said that the people saying that she wouldn't are wrong to be so sure of that. it depends on how badly she wants to join a sorority. if she had a strong desire to be in one then its likely she would feel left out, since it is very hard to ignore the greek presence here.
3. I'm sure there are girls who do love rush, but in my experience they are the minority. additionally, those girls who do love it most likely do so because of the result, getting them into their sorority, not the process in itself. i could be wrong but i don't think there are many girls who would enjoy the stress and exhaustion without the reward.
4. thats fine that yall disregard tiers, however UT doesn't. like it or not they exist. im simply trying to give an honest answer, and to say they dont exist just isn't true. also, it is a universally accepted fact that high school plays a large role in rush. not being from one of the "prestigious" high schools doesn't mean you're screwed, but there are houses that you're a lot less likely to get a bid from. of course there are clueless girls who don't come from the typical high schools that get into those houses, but they are the significant minority. again, you may not agree with it or think its stupid, but it's a reality.
5. I'm well aware loans are serious. however i know of several kids who have done just that in order to help cover some of the costs, so i don't see whats wrong with mentioning it. clearly its up to the individual to decide, but its not an unheard of option.
6. of course being greek doesn't stop you from being friends with people who aren't greek. however, the greek community at UT really does keep to itself. with 5000 members, the greek system here is the size an normal school, and with that many students theres not much motive to branch out. meeting people in class is tough since most classes your first 2 years are huge lectures and clubs generally don't have many greek members. of course its possible to have fun at fraternity parties as a non greek, i know of several non greek girls who are friends with plenty of greek guys. i said it would be more difficult which it undeniably is.
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02-12-2012, 05:52 PM
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You speak so definitively about something you know nothing about.
Yes, Greek life is a big deal at UT -- but that's only to Greeks. If she tries and doesn't make it, she won't be mocked around town. UT (and Austin) is too big for her to hold on to that for 4 years. If you don't make it/can't afford it, you'll find something else to occupy your time.
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02-12-2012, 07:18 PM
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You speak so definitively about something you know nothing about.
Yes, Greek life is a big deal at UT -- but that's only to Greeks. If she tries and doesn't make it, she won't be mocked around town. UT (and Austin) is too big for her to hold on to that for 4 years. If you don't make it/can't afford it, you'll find something else to occupy your time.
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sorry chief but im actually a greek student at ut so i dunno where you got the idea i know nothing about it. go ahead and reread what i wrote cause based on that comment it clearly went way over your head.
do yall seriously think im saying that if you're not in a fraternity or sorority here you're not gonna have fun? im gonna say this one more time, if, and only if, joining a sorority is important to her, then its likely she will feel left out if she doesn't join the greek community since its hard to ignore. not really sure how you interpreted that as she'll get "mocked around town".
on a side note, did you really need to clarify that greek life is important only to greeks? are you suggesting that there are schools where greek life is a big deal to the people who aren't greek?
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02-12-2012, 07:20 PM
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sorry chief but im actually a greek student at ut so i dunno where you got the idea i know nothing about it. go ahead and reread what i wrote cause based on that comment it clearly went way over your head.
do yall seriously think im saying that if you're not in a fraternity or sorority here you're not gonna have fun? im gonna say this one more time, if, and only if, joining a sorority is important to her, then its likely she will feel left out if she doesn't join the greek community since its hard to ignore. not really sure how you interpreted that as she'll get "mocked around town".
on a side note, did you really need to clarify that greek life is important only to greeks? are you suggesting that there are schools where greek life is a big deal to the people who aren't greek?
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Originally Posted by TheTexanYankee
1. i said that from what ive been told by my friends who went through rush here is that its not the most enjoyable experience. thats hardly an absolute answer, rather an opinion of girls who rushed. i think i made it clear that i didn't experience it myself.
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You're Greek at UT, but didn't rush? Oh, ok.
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02-12-2012, 07:45 PM
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You're Greek at UT, but didn't rush? Oh, ok.
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is this a joke?
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02-12-2012, 08:40 PM
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is this a joke?
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Evidently not as you wrote:
"1. i said that from what ive been told by my friends who went through rush here is that its not the most enjoyable experience. thats hardly an absolute answer, rather an opinion of girls who rushed. i think i made it clear that i didn't experience it myself."
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02-12-2012, 07:12 PM
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