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09-01-2011, 11:44 AM
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I'm not a fan of censoring clothing like this. I'm sure that someone out there thinks that shirt is witty, so why should the public have the ability to tell that person s/he can't buy it?
That being said, I think it would've been more effective if it said "...I make my brother do it" as opposed to "...so my brother has to do it for me."
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09-01-2011, 11:52 AM
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It's not censorship - the manufacturer wasn't told to stop producing it. The retailer wasn't legally prevented from selling it. They decided that the cost of offending their clientele and the way it reflected on them wasn't worth the offsetting profits to be made from selling the shirt.
I'm personally over all the 'attitude' shirts, anyway.
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09-01-2011, 12:49 PM
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I'm personally over all the 'attitude' shirts, anyway.
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Generally, I agree. But I couldn't stop laughing over the one I saw at lunch:
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09-01-2011, 12:57 PM
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LOL @
1) Whoever designed it
2) Whoever approved it
3) Whoever didn't want to buy it so much that they made it so no one else could buy it
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09-01-2011, 01:32 PM
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3) Whoever didn't want to buy it so much that they made it so no one else could buy it
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@ SWTXBelle
The above is what I was getting at in my post.
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09-01-2011, 03:31 PM
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3) Whoever didn't want to buy it so much that they made it so no one else could buy it
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Yeah imagine a world where there are instances when individual outcomes are surpassed by aggregate outcomes. We should all just chill in our own little huts and let other humans fend for themselves, especially when we're talking about what mainstream retailers are selling.
I can't wait to see those awesome "I'm a baaaaaad bitch" and "ISUCKYODICK" tshirts for K-12. Those who don't like those shirts can just not buy them. Let everyone else do as they choose. And, yes, I consider an "I'm too pretty" shirt to not only be dumb but to be offensive gender jargon.
Societies are awesome.
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09-01-2011, 04:59 PM
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Yeah imagine a world where there are instances when individual outcomes are surpassed by aggregate outcomes. We should all just chill in our own little huts and let other humans fend for themselves, especially when we're talking about what mainstream retailers are selling.
I can't wait to see those awesome "I'm a baaaaaad bitch" and "ISUCKYODICK" tshirts for K-12. Those who don't like those shirts can just not buy them. Let everyone else do as they choose. And, yes, I consider an "I'm too pretty" shirt to not only be dumb but to be offensive gender jargon.
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This single instance just doesn't cross the line for me, and that's where our opinions differ. I'm no philosopher or politician so I'm not worried with the hypothetical situations that could stem from this, but I really wouldn't support an ISUCKYODICK shirt (though Spencer's probably already has these available for K-12). There is a line somewhere, but this one doesn't cross it for me.
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09-01-2011, 05:00 PM
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Dude, if a girl was "too pretty to do homework," then wouldn't she be able to get guys who weren't her brother to do it for her? Guess she's not that pretty after all!
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09-01-2011, 05:16 PM
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This single instance just doesn't cross the line for me, and that's where our opinions differ. I'm no philosopher or politician so I'm not worried with the hypothetical situations that could stem from this, but I really wouldn't support an ISUCKYODICK shirt (though Spencer's probably already has these available for K-12). There is a line somewhere, but this one doesn't cross it for me.
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I worry about this because hypothetical situations always stem from small instances. There is always a starting point and the small, "not so bad" ones always desensitize people for the really bad ones. I have no children to worry about wearing these shirts and I'm not a feminist, but this shirt is degrading to women.
I took a class on how movies and television roles portray gender and race. We don't realize how small messages like these really impact how we view, think about and stereotype people, but they impact us greatly. So even if it may not be an outwardly offensive shirt, it is sending a bad message into the minds of everyone and helping to shape more stereotypes that women have been trying to break.
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09-01-2011, 05:24 PM
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I worry about this because hypothetical situations always stem from small instances. There is always a starting point and the small, "not so bad" ones always desensitize people for the really bad ones. I have no children to worry about wearing these shirts and I'm not a feminist, but this shirt is degrading to women.
I took a class on how movies and television roles portray gender and race. We don't realize how small messages like these really impact how we view, think about and stereotype people, but they impact us greatly. So even if it may not be an outwardly offensive shirt, it is sending a bad message into the minds of everyone and helping to shape more stereotypes that women have been trying to break.
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I agree - except I have to add, it IS outwardly offensive BECAUSE it buys into a negative stereotype.If you want that shirt, thetaj, go to zazzle or cafe'press and have at it. See? Not censorship.
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09-01-2011, 05:35 PM
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I don't want the damn shirt, people.
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09-01-2011, 05:38 PM
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This single instance just doesn't cross the line for me, and that's where our opinions differ.
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It doesn't have to cross the line for you. This is neither about you nor me.
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I'm no philosopher or politician so I'm not worried with the hypothetical situations that could stem from this, but
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This makes you seem silly. I'm sure you didn't intend to convey that you are not a forward thinking person.
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I really wouldn't support an ISUCKYODICK shirt (though Spencer's probably already has these available for K-12). There is a line somewhere, but this one doesn't cross it for me.
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LOL @ whoever didn't want to buy the ISUCKYODICK K-12 shirt so much that they made it so no one else could buy it
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09-01-2011, 05:40 PM
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I want a t-shirt that says "I'm too pretty to do housework, so my husband has to do it for me."
I also want it to be true...
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09-01-2011, 05:43 PM
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(though Spencer's probably already has these available for K-12).
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And herein lies an important distinction...I really think this is as much a "who" as a "what". While I would be sad to see the same Tee at Spencer's, it would be much less a surprise and less of an issue if it were at Spencer's vs. Penny's.
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09-01-2011, 05:43 PM
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I want a t-shirt that says "I'm too sexy for my shirt" Oh wait.. nm.
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