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08-06-2011, 09:54 PM
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A mob lynching of a black man (which this appeared, at least according to eyewitnesses, to be attempted murder several times) would certainly be connotated as white supremecists, whether or not it was true. Do you think that Emmett Till's attackers motives were exaggerated?
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No, because the lynching of Emmet Till was in fact motivated by white supremacy. But not all lynchings are racially motivated, which is irrelevant anyway, as there wasn't any lynching going on in this story.
Instead of trying (and failing) to make these political points, why don't you stick to refusing to affiliate with shanes and telling all kinds of other inconsistent stories about your fraternity membership. At least that's entertaining.
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08-06-2011, 10:22 PM
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No, because the lynching of Emmet Till was in fact motivated by white supremacy. But not all lynchings are racially motivated, which is irrelevant anyway, as there wasn't any lynching going on in this story.
Instead of trying (and failing) to make these political points, why don't you stick to refusing to affiliate with shanes and telling all kinds of other inconsistent stories about your fraternity membership. At least that's entertaining.
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08-06-2011, 11:16 PM
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No, because the lynching of Emmet Till was in fact motivated by white supremacy. But not all lynchings are racially motivated, which is irrelevant anyway, as there wasn't any lynching going on in this story.
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There wasn't any lynchings because it was stopped. Attempted murder is still attempting murder. Would it have been any less acceptable if the lynchers had nearly killed Emmett, but didn't? That's what happened here.
This was a mass attempted lynching. It seems fairly evident from the story and from other eye-witness testimony from other sources that it was indeed racially based.
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08-06-2011, 11:38 PM
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There wasn't any lynchings because it was stopped. Attempted murder is still attempting murder. Would it have been any less acceptable if the lynchers had nearly killed Emmett, but didn't? That's what happened here.
This was a mass attempted lynching. It seems fairly evident from the story and from other eye-witness testimony from other sources that it was indeed racially based.
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08-06-2011, 11:48 PM
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This was a mass attempted lynching. It seems fairly evident from the story and from other eye-witness testimony from other sources that it was indeed racially based.
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Who's being hyperbolic now? (As if "black supremacists" wasn't hyperbolic enough.)
Lynching is more than mob violence and more than murder. Lynching is not necessarily racially-based (though certainly in this country, most lynchings have been racially-based, being used by whites to try to "control" minority groups). From the Encyclopedia Britannica: "lynching, a form of violence in which a mob, under the pretext of administering justice without trial, executes a presumed offender, often after inflicting torture and corporal mutilation."
So unless you can point out to me where the perpetrators of this alleged "mass attempted lynching" could be said to be attempting to administer their own justice to those they believed to be guilty of something, then no -- there's nothing "fairly evident" about it at all.
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08-07-2011, 10:19 AM
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This was a mass attempted lynching.
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No. No. NO. No and No. That was NOT what this was. It was a RIOT, not a mass race-motivated attempted lynching.
There were white people involved in the rioting too. As were there people of every race. In fact, the white people started the whole damn thing.
No one was attempting to lynch anyone.
Honestly.
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08-07-2011, 11:13 AM
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No. No. NO. No and No. That was NOT what this was. It was a RIOT, not a mass race-motivated attempted lynching.
There were white people involved in the rioting too. As were there people of every race. In fact, the white people started the whole damn thing.
No one was attempting to lynch anyone.
Honestly.
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08-07-2011, 11:21 AM
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08-08-2011, 04:11 AM
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There were white people involved in the rioting too. As were there people of every race.
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Proof?
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08-08-2011, 08:20 AM
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Proof?
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I'm sorry: I didn't think to take photos while I was there.
Here's as much as I do have. WISN reported this ( http://www.wisn.com/r/28769947/detail.html), which got out of hand with the arrival of pro-Walker supports and contributed to what happened.
I'm not saying those kids were completely justified in what they were doing. I'm saying that it wasn't black supremacists attempting to lynch all the white folks.
This is probably not enough proof for you, but I feel like I'm qualified to comment, seeing as I was actually present when this took place.
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08-08-2011, 04:04 PM
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I have been wondering what caused the riot? We/I haven't heard down here in the south.
BTW - there are white, black, asian, indian, and hell, probably even green supremacists somewhere in our cosmos. I think this was more opportunism because I seriously doubt all 50 to over 100 of the rioters even knew why they were beating the crap out of white people. But I may be completely wrong.
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08-08-2011, 04:10 PM
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I have been wondering what caused the riot? We/I haven't heard down here in the south.
BTW - there are white, black, asian, indian, and hell, probably even green supremacists somewhere in our cosmos. I think this was more opportunism because I seriously doubt all 50 to over 100 of the rioters even knew why they were beating the crap out of white people. But I may be completely wrong.
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Usually the case in riots.
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08-08-2011, 06:19 PM
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The start of the animosity was due to the protests against/for Governor Walker. It escalated hugely from there but no one is really sure how or why....
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08-09-2011, 06:33 PM
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This was COMPLETELY taken out of context, but that's to be expected from TMJ4.
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Truth.
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I have been wondering what caused the riot? We/I haven't heard down here in the south.
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I don't think anyone really knows, as far as I understand.
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08-09-2011, 06:38 PM
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