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Old 04-09-2001, 06:52 AM
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DeltAlum I agree with you 100%.
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Old 04-10-2001, 12:40 AM
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Well, no matter how popular you thought your posting would be DeltAlum, it is 100% accurate, and thank you for saying what I was thinking

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Old 04-09-2001, 01:15 PM
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Thanks RedAngel and Shadokat,

I just re-read my post and wanted to better explain something...

I do not mean to imply that all Greeks, Chapters, Nationals, etc. are bad and breaking the laws of the land.

My point is that some are -- and they are the reason for the adverse news coverage. Hell, some admit to it in so many words in this forum.

It's just too much of a cop out -- to easy --to always blame the media for everyone's woes.

Where there is smoke...etc.

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Old 04-09-2001, 02:30 PM
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OK...I think I have my original post fixed. Sorry it wasn't correct to begin with. Thanks 33girl and AKA2D'91 for correcting me!

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Old 04-09-2001, 09:15 PM
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Hey DeltAlum,

I do apologize for bashing all the media for some bad apples. Pot, meet kettle!!

By "hard" news I assume you mean the nightly network newscasts and local news. That's what I'm taking it as. I would not expect those outlets to not report a hazing incident or any other negative incident. However, I don't consider 48 Hours, Dateline et al "hard" news. Hard news to me is a medium where facts are presented IMPARTIALLY and I really do not see that on most of these type shows.

As far as my time of the season theory - there was a well publicized hazing incident at a midwestern college a few years ago. It happened in the late fall I believe. TWO YEARS later in - you guessed it - April, it showed up on 20/20. By that time steps had been taken by the national and the school to remedy the situation, yet anyone watching this report would think it happened yesterday. Several incidents from various times were gathered to make this seem like a pandemic. I do not take issue with the reporting of an incident, but the style and timeline in which it was reported.

Of course you ae 100% right in saying that if the incidents did not happen, they wouldn't be reported. But I see very little equal time for the GOOD things that happen. Our alumnae panhel here has a scholarship lunch every spring and every spring info is submitted to the local newspaper and TV stations. It has yet to make it in. Meanwhile, Waynesburg College killed its Greek system and the paper published an article that did everything but say "way to go!" If the link is still active, I'll post it here.

So yes, we do have some real butt-heads in the system that make it hard for all of us. But I think that the "Greeks are elitist jerks" attitudes of some in the media don't help. It all boils down to what kappagirl said - the good stuff just isn't as interesting as the dirt.
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Old 04-10-2001, 12:29 AM
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Hi 33girl,

Our opinions will probably continue to differ somewhat on this subject.

I do consider "60 Minutes," "48 Hours," and "Dateline" to be hard news in this context. A few years ago I would not have thought that, but there are so many of those programs now that the coverage is much more timely than it was then.

I consider editorial, commentary and fluff feature stories to not fit into that category -- and it's there, in some cases, that I certainly agree with you in terms of non-ballanced coverage.

I can't comment on the timing of the story you mention since I'm not familiar with the situation. "20/20" and "60 Minutes" were repeating some stories for a time -- I don't know whether they still are. I think that's problematic because of that timliness issues I mentioned. People believe the repeat is something that just happened. I think that's potentially dangerous and irresponsible. I don't know if that was the situation in this case and I don't know if they still do it.

By the way, I also agree with you that it has become very in vogue to pull together and mention other similar instances from the past -- and if that isn't done very carefully and labeled as a time-line or historical, those references can be easily misconstrued and make the situation look ongoing when it might not be.

I'll bet that the internet has a lot to do with this technique since it's so easy to search for historical data these days. Just a thought.

In any event, my real point is still that if we follow the rules, there's no reason for negative stories.

As for trying to get coverage of good events -- keep trying. Often whether something makes it into the newspaper or on the air is an accident of what happens on that day. There is a finite amount of space and airtime. Which is too bad. But, there's no perfect world I guess.

So, which did you want to be -- the pot or the kettle? I'll happily be the other as long as we remember we're both side by side on the top of the stove working together.

DeltAlum

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Old 04-10-2001, 07:04 AM
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33girl,
The next time your alumnae has that scholarship luncheon-check your area papers to see if they have a social calendar. This would be your best bet to get it in. Keep on trying!
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