question for all you southern belles ;)

[LadyLonghorn]

I would say that anyone who counts on affiliating with almost any chapter at UT will most likely have a very rude awakening.

[phimusam]

As I remember, back in the fifties, if you transferred to a school that had "your" sorority, you were required to affiliate or you lost your membership.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by phimusam

As I remember, back in the fifties, if you transferred to a school that had "your" sorority, you were required to affiliate or you lost your membership.

Because most women who left college in the 50s left to marry. Totally different scenario than what's going on here.

[AnchorAlum]

I was a sponsorship chairman in Texas for a few years, and I can tell you that there were several girls from some of the "wealthy" old line suburbs who went to other schools for a year simply because they were legacies to a certain of the so called "top three" at Texas and they would not have made the cut. Because it was considered nearly mandatory for her to do what her Mama and Grandmama did, and for getting into Junior League back in such and such Cities she'd go to another school, preferably in the South and then transfer to UT.

There's even one Southern school that was favored by a certain Dallas suburb.

Of course, this was a dozen or so years ago. I don't know if it's still the case.

[knight_shadow]

Plano? Southlake?

[AnchorAlum]

Richardson/Plano. But neither of those are the place I was referring to.

[knight_shadow]

Oh, I was being nosey trying to figure out the place you were referring to lol

Guess I'm out of the loop

[Low C Sharp]

AnchorAlum, were the daughters usually accepted as affiliates by the Texas chapters? Or was it enough for those families that the daughters were (for example) Pi Phis and Texas grads, eve if they weren't Texas Pi Phis?
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[srmom]

Back in my day, Plano was farm country, and Southlake didn't exist (or if it did, I'd never heard of it), I knew more pi phis from towns like Tyler

I went to SMU, was in a top house, and we let transfers in all the time. I knew girls who transferred from SMU to UT and had no problem affiliating either, but most who chose to transfer to Texas after starting at SMU had gone to school with many of the girls in the house they were transferring into.

Just shows how time has changed the landscape both in the Greek scene and in the cities!!

[AnchorAlum]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

AnchorAlum, were the daughters usually accepted as affiliates by the Texas chapters? Or was it enough for those families that the daughters were (for example) Pi Phis and Texas grads, eve if they weren't Texas Pi Phis?

Honestly, I am not necessarily talking about Pi Phi OR just UT.

SMU was in the picture as well.

[AnchorAlum]

Originally Posted by srmom

Back in my day, Plano was farm country, and Southlake didn't exist (or if it did, I'd never heard of it), I knew more pi phis from towns like Tyler

I went to SMU, was in a top house, and we let transfers in all the time. I knew girls who transferred from SMU to UT and had no problem affiliating either, but most who chose to transfer to Texas after starting at SMU had gone to school with many of the girls in the house they were transferring into.

Just shows how time has changed the landscape both in the Greek scene and in the cities!!

I'm still not talking about those towns.

[33girl]

This is like the old episodes of What's My Line and I've Got A Secret that I was just watching. Is the town bigger than a breadbox?

[LadyLonghorn]

Originally Posted by srmom

Back in my day, Plano was farm country, and Southlake didn't exist (or if it did, I'd never heard of it), I knew more pi phis from towns like Tyler

I went to SMU, was in a top house, and we let transfers in all the time. I knew girls who transferred from SMU to UT and had no problem affiliating either, but most who chose to transfer to Texas after starting at SMU had gone to school with many of the girls in the house they were transferring into.

Just shows how time has changed the landscape both in the Greek scene and in the cities!!

And those are the women who would have likely had a positive outcome if they had gone through recruitment as a freshman at UT. One of the big affiliation problems the sororities at UT are seeing is from CAP students who deliberately pledge a specific sorority at another school in the UT system that has a weaker reputation with the sole intention of affiliating when then transfer. These are women who would never have made it into those chapters as UT PNMs. They're looking at getting in through the back door an it just doesn't work.

[TriDeltaSallie]

Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn

And those are the women who would have likely had a positive outcome if they had gone through recruitment as a freshman at UT. One of the big affiliation problems the sororities at UT are seeing is from CAP students who deliberately pledge a specific sorority at another school in the UT system that has a weaker reputation with the sole intention of affiliating when then transfer. These are women who would never have made it into those chapters as UT PNMs. They're looking at getting in through the back door an it just doesn't work.

I realize I'm far removed from this part of the sorority world, but I'm surprised it has been put up with as long as it apparently has (from what I read here). Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like manipulate the system at lesser school (therefore manipulate the sisters I really don't care about) and then manipulate my way into a place I don't necessarily belong.

Don't the women at the lesser schools start to resent this? Can't they tell they are being manipulated? Does it cause animosity amongst the sisters in the state?

[GammaPhi88]

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie

I realize I'm far removed from this part of the sorority world, but I'm surprised it has been put up with as long as it apparently has (from what I read here). Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like manipulate the system at lesser school (therefore manipulate the sisters I really don't care about) and then manipulate my way into a place I don't necessarily belong.

Don't the women at the lesser schools start to resent this? Can't they tell they are being manipulated? Does it cause animosity amongst the sisters in the state?

As a member of a northern chapter at a competitive (but not SEC competitive or close) school, I can't give the southern perspective of this, but I can shed light on a similar situation. The year I went through recruitment, there was a girl who had numerous options, but pledged what is considered the "bottom" chapter, because, as she said, "they would take anyone".

She transferred to a southern school (which is competitive, but not Alabama or LSU brutal), and, according to a mutual friend, has affiliated. Is she meshing with her new chapter? Couldn't tell you. But what I can tell you is that her old chapter found out what happened and felt that what she did was unfair and an insult to their sisterhood...they found out she transferred over the summer, while she knew around the time of recruitment. Some sisters from her old chapter have mentioned that they resent her because of that, and they do keep an eye out for girls with a similar agenda; though it is not an common phenomenon at our school.

As I said, I speak from my own northern, mildly competitive point of view...but I can see how the chapter the transferring PNM pledged would feel resentment.