Social rules

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by BraveMaroon

I have to wonder what the President's real motive is. It doesn't sound so much like she's concerned for the safety of her sisters as it does she just wants to exercise control.

As to the "no chapter", no social" - admittedly, it's been a long time since I was in the mix, but I don't see any real reason behind it. Unless the chapter has problems getting people to chapter and wants to punish them for it.

But that's not really a fix. If people aren't coming to chapter, it's a symptom of something bigger, no?

Or am I reading too much into this?

I think you're right that it sounds like the president might have other motivations for her stipulations, especially since it appears that they do not follow procedure, but I think it's reasonable to require people to show up for chapter to attend social events, IF that is written in the bylaws. We had an activity point system, but the intent was the same...show up to required events or you lose the privilege to attend the "extra" events. (Unless they have an excuse of course...sick, etc.)

[BraveMaroon]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I think you're right that it sounds like the president might have other motivations for her stipulations, especially since it appears that they do not follow procedure, but I think it's reasonable to require people to show up for chapter to attend social events, IF that is written in the bylaws. We had an activity point system, but the intent was the same...show up to required events or you lose the privilege to attend the "extra" events. (Unless they have an excuse of course...sick, etc.)

We had the same thing many moons ago - basically, the points were weighted heavily on things like Recruitment, Chapter, Initiation Week, Philanthropy and less so for things like socials or mixers - but for the life of me, I cannot remember what happened if you didn't make enough points - I think you were fined. Suffice it to say, I always made points.

That said, we walked into each term with it laid out for us clearly in advance, so there weren't any surprises.

ETA: I actually preferred chapter to mixers most of the time because I always had early AM classes... and I was a nerd.

[33girl]

Too many things to quote so I'll just post.

FWIW, at our school mixers never opened up to the public after a certain hour. Thursday was "mixer night." If you saw a fraternity house full of sorority women, you knew it was a closed party. They sure didn't last until 1 though, as the older members wanted to go to the bar. Of course this is all different if you're having the mixer AT a bar to begin with.

I agree w/ Brave Maroon and IMO "safety" is the least of their concerns, quite frankly. Honestly, it sounds like people have been bailing early on mixers and causing lots of negative talk from the fraternities and effing up the chapter's social image. Instead of talking this out with the chapter though, they decided to go all fascist on you. If it IS a national dictate, it needed to be presented as such. However, I seriously doubt your nationals would cotton to your being forced to stay till 1 AM.

Alumiyum - the policy said this:

Buses Safe round-trip transportation in form of buses must be provided for and used by all members and guests for an out-of-town event.

So unless they're in the middle of a forest with no other houses or fun-time establishments around they wouldn't need buses for a mixer - they just need safe transit, which they're providing in the form of DDs.

[angels&angles]

Originally Posted by BraveMaroon

As to the "no chapter", no social" - admittedly, it's been a long time since I was in the mix, but I don't see any real reason behind it. Unless the chapter has problems getting people to chapter and wants to punish them for it.

But that's not really a fix. If people aren't coming to chapter, it's a symptom of something bigger, no?

Or am I reading too much into this?

I don't know. We had this rule. There are always girls who LOVE mixers but hate chapter (I loved chapter, but I'm a rules and order person. But I also loved mixers... maybe too much). These girls will always have shoddy "reasons" to miss chapter, and then will complain about not being able to have their say in issues, or claim not to know about the new rules, or whatever. There's also the girls who do 1000000 activities (they're RAs, and in the musical, and in chorus, etc), and this gives some incentive to prioritize the sorority.

We actually used a point system, and you got 10 points for going to chapter, and 5 points for missing chapter but reading and signing the minutes. If you missed less than one chapter, you could pretty much make any event, and if you did miss chapter, you could make it up by wearing your badge or your letters, or doing philanthropy, or getting good grades, etc. It made it a little fairer.

God, sorry this is so long.

ETA - Agh, I knew someone would have already put up an answer...

[Eleven7]

Some response....

We had the point system a while ago but it was taken out of our bylaws/policies because it was never enforced.

I agree with 33girl about the transportation. Thats the way i read it. We have a form that the girls under 21 fill out before socials to say that they will be a designated driver.

I emailed our president and the social person today with an email stating how nothing is in our bylaws etc. I blind cc'ed a couple of the other girls who are unhappy with this situation and how this is being handled.

Things have been awkward. Our chapter president seems to be losing control/getting a big head about things. She has been extremely unapproachable and I was told that at convention she was ignoring the women from our chapter that went that were not officers. I'm wondering if maybe she is drained from this reign.

Thank you so much for the help.