Bad Stuff in CU Boulder

[shadokat]

I sent the stupid, sexist bastard an email. OH MY GOD, I'm so pissed right now. Are you kidding me?? Use our powers?!? What are, wizards or sorcerers? This guy obviously has his head so far up his ass, until he is fired, he will lead this Greek System into the ground.

[shadokat]

OK all, here's my response back from the Greek Life guy at CU. I was pretty harsh, but his reply was too lame!

Heather,

Please do not believe everything that you see in the media. I was
misquoted. I am a 10 year veteran of the Greek Advising world and want to
reassure you that I would never say something as ludicrous as was
attributed to me in that media report. I am a Greek Life professional and
spend the bulk of my time trying to keep both fraternity men and sorority
women from participating in destructive behavior such as this most recent
incident.

I have been a staunch supporter of the greek community for my entire
tenure as Greek Liaison. I have testifyed before the state of Colorado
for the Hazing Law that was passed a few years ago. I have hosted
numerous national conferences related to underage drinking and the
liability that both fraternities and sororities expose themselves
to.

I want to assure you that no one in this incident is being excused for
their behavior because their are male or female. Laws and rules were
broken and all involved parties are being held accountable.

Please use this as a lesson in life. The media is not always accurate, and
before you lash out with a personal attack at someone, you should always
check first before you break out your harmful words.

Interfraternally

Thomas A Lorz (303)492-0769
Greek Liaison fax(303)492-8922
The University of Colorado
UMC 420 CB 207
Boulder CO 80309-0207

[Tom Earp]

GGEEEEEZZZZZZ what kind of baby food is this clown inhaling?

He sounds as good as Gene Kelly Dances

If he is Greek Affairs advisor woe be the Greeks there!

[shadokat]

OK all I sent an email to NPC in hopes that they would respond to this guy's ridiculous comments, and lo and behold, we have the response. Here is what the NPC Chairwoman had to say!

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November 11, 2001

Mr. Thomas A. Lorz, Greek Liaison
UMC 420, Campus Box 207
University of Colorado
Boulder, CO 80309-0207

Dear Mr. Lorz:

I read your comments in the Rocky Mountain News with disappointment. As distressed as all of the National Panhellenic Conference groups are about the October 29 incident, it never occurred to us that a university representative would suggest that the women “used their powers over men” to obtain the use of the Fraternity house for this activity. I know that you have been in the Student Affairs field and at the University of Colorado for several years so this is not a comment that can be excused due to inexperience or naiveté.

It is true as you stated that alcohol cannot be consumed or stored on the property of women’s Fraternity houses. It is also true that the NPC groups represented on your campus each have a policy which prohibits them from having a co-sponsored social event at a Fraternity house unless that event is alcohol-free. This policy was put in place for many reasons but one of them was to prevent our women from using the men’s Fraternity houses as a means to obtain alcohol for underage members. Your comments don’t indicate any knowledge of this policy which, although new, is vigorously pursued. Successful implementation has been aided on some campuses where the Fraternity Sorority Advisor works closely with the women’s groups to assure compliance.

The women of the National Panhellenic Conference will continue to work with each other, with the North American Interfraternity Conference members, and with the members of the NASPA Fraternity Sorority (Network) Knowledge Community to change the alcohol-based culture on our campuses in North America. It would be heartening to think that all university representatives would support this effort. Suggesting that the Fraternity men are not able to think for themselves is an insult to the intelligence and strength of character of the men who attend the University of Colorado. I would think your undergraduates would find this attitude offensive.

I hope that you will be available to meet with the representatives of the women’s groups in Washington D.C. later this month. We are sincerely interested in changing the alcohol culture at the University of Colorado and will continue to work with the women and with you to minimize this kind of behavior in the future.

Sincerely,


Sally Grant, Chairman
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[AlphaSigLana]

YEah Sally-now here's a classy sorority woman!
I can't believe the reply he gave you Shadokat!

[AOIIAngel]

what a freaking tool. He needs to be fired, and then strung up by his toenails and whacked like a pinata by the very women he demeaned. What a loser. But you know, us EVIL women-yeah they will get him.

[Tom Earp]

Please keep us updated on this situation!

If most people think, the School Greek Advisor is paid by the school! They will do the bidding of and where fore and where bys of the school!

Who do the most for Homecoming? Who do the most contribuiting back to the money wise College? Who serve on College Committees? Who have the overall highest grade average?

Everytime my ALMA MATER calls for a donation, I tell them I donate to my Fraternitys Educational Foundation!
I paid my money to go there, I pay my taxes to support it!

i just founf out today, Tulane cost 10,000 a sem. not including living! Hell If I made that kind of money in a small business ? Well i could be king for a year!

[mmcat]

mr. lorz...where have you been?
the world has moved on and apparently passed you by.
this whole scene is terribly depressing considering how far women have come. it's said to think some are mentally back in the 50's mentally regarding the how and hte why of women.
mmcat

[DeltAlum]

Agreed.

And as was pointed out above, his comments don't make the fraternity men involved sound like rocket scientists either. Not that either of the Greek organizations (women or men) were all that bright in this situation.

[shadokat]

In case anyone hasn't already heard, Kappa Alpha Theta has been suspended now. Don't know the whole story, but I heard this today.

[DeltAlum]

Here are the details with no comment from our friend Mr. Lorz:


Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:11:53 -0800
From: Fraternity/Sorority Newsclips <doug.case@sdsu.edu>
Subject: CU sorority suspended after alleged hazing

The Associated Press
November 20, 2001

CU sorority suspended after alleged hazing

BOULDER, Colo. -- The Kappa Alpha Theta sorority has suspended its University of Colorado chapter because of an alleged hazing incident last month that left two pledges hospitalized with alcohol poisoning.

The length of the suspension was not set but the sorority's national leaders have ordered the Boulder chapter to cancel all social events for the remainder of the school year and host hazing-awareness seminars. The chapter may be reinstated after it meets several requirements, said Liz Rinck, Kappa Alpha Theta's communications director.

One of those conditions is that all sorority officers involved in the
Oct. 30 initiation resign their positions. Rinck said the national
office is still trying to determine who participated.

Boulder police Sgt. Kurt Weiler said detectives also are
investigating. Under Colorado law, hazing is a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail.

A 17-year-old Kappa Alpha Theta pledge told police she was
blindfolded and taken to a fraternity house where she downed 11 alcoholic beverages off a list of 14 she was expected to drink.

CU police found the girl on campus with injuries to her face, either
the result of an assault or a fall. Officers took her to Boulder
Community Hospital, where tests revealed she had a blood-alcohol level of .202, more than four times Colorado's legal limit for driving.

Neither university officials nor police have released details of the
second pledge, who was also hospitalized that night for alcohol
poisoning.

University officials said they would wait for a police report before
deciding what to do about students who participated in the initiation.

(c) 2001 The Associated Press.

[James]

Colorado has a legal limit of .05!!!!! That would be 3 drinks for a two hundred pound man in 2 hours . . . wow the state must be M.A.D.D.

[DeltAlum]

I'm not sure, but I think the .05 limit is for "impaired," and the DUI limit is .1. Again, I'm not 100% sure of that.

[DeltAlum]

According to FraternalNews there will be no criminal hazing charges filed against the Thetas. Also, it looks like Phi Gams were the fraternity involved.

I'm almost glad the Delt Chapter at CU was closed since the former Delt Shelter is right across the street from the Theta House.

[33girl]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
I'm almost glad the Delt Chapter at CU was closed since the former Delt Shelter is right across the street from the Theta House.

yes, and your brothers would have had to put up a special force field to proctect them from the feminine wiles....hahahahahaha