Standing out as a Sophomore

[sydney bristow]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

She edited, but her previous post has been quoted numerous times and the details (school, program) have been discussed enough that editing doesn't do much unless we all go back and edit posts.

Valid. OP, just read the board. Everything you need to know has been posted many, many, MANY times. Good luck and let us know how it turned out if you want!

[equinerider26]

Also, I have seen some odd numbers as far as quotas are concerned. Such as, a sorority having a quota of 70, but taking 71 new members.
Do the quotas count for all new members, or only freshman? How can they take more than their quota?
(Sorry, I'm very new to the Greek system, if it isn't obvious.)

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by equinerider26

Also, I have seen some odd numbers as far as quotas are concerned. Such as, a sorority having a quota of 70, but taking 71 new members.
Do the quotas count for all new members, or only freshman? How can they take more than their quota?
(Sorry, I'm very new to the Greek system, if it isn't obvious.)

run a search. It's rather complicated but it has been explained in detail before. quota additions would be a good thing to look for.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by equinerider26

Also, I have seen some odd numbers as far as quotas are concerned. Such as, a sorority having a quota of 70, but taking 71 new members.
Do the quotas count for all new members, or only freshman? How can they take more than their quota?
(Sorry, I'm very new to the Greek system, if it isn't obvious.)

I'll try to explain succinctly. If a PNM maximizes her choices throughout recruitment and ranks all of her choices after preference round, at some schools, Panhellenic will guarantee that she will be matched to one of those chapters. Panhellenics allow chapters to take a little more than actual quota in these cases because a woman who "played by the rules" not being placed is worse than new member classes not being EXACTLY the same size. If These extra new members are quota additions. No one will know who the quota additions in the new member class are.

ETA: Some schools have a separate quota for freshmen and non-freshmen, but most have quota as all classes together.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I'll try to explain succinctly. If a PNM maximizes her choices throughout recruitment and ranks all of her choices after preference round, at some schools, Panhellenic will guarantee that she will be matched to one of those chapters. Panhellenics allow chapters to take a little more than actual quota in these cases because a woman who "played by the rules" not being placed is worse than new member classes not being EXACTLY the same size. If These extra new members are quota additions. No one will know who the quota additions in the new member class are.

ETA: Some schools have a separate quota for freshmen and non-freshmen, but most have quota as all classes together.

In addition to this, if a sorority is not at campus total, they may bid over and above quota until they get to campus total.

[KSUViolet06]

See this thread:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...uota+additions

Be warned, it is a little complicated (as in there are many sorority members themselves who don't understand the concepts entirely).

[KSUViolet06]

Good threads to read about rush at Mizzou:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ghlight=mizzou

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=88498

[KSUViolet06]

To be fair, my state currently still has a quite compeittive 6 year med program (BSMD) between a med school and like 5 state schools.

However, if you met someone who was in it, they wouldn't say they were already in med school or accepted into med school. They'd just say "I'm a freshman in the BSMD program." [because you weren't guaranteed to continue to med school if you didn't fulfill the requirements]

[equinerider26]

I guess I should say that I have guaranteed admission into vet school; that would be more accurate.

But other than finding recommendations (which I am currently working heartily on), do you all have any other advice on how to be more appealing to sororities as an older student?

[kddani]

Originally Posted by equinerider26

(which I am currently working heartily on)

PMing strangers on the internet for help in finding local alumnae is not "working heartily" (particularly without any prior interactions with said stranger, and without giving any indication that you put forth effort on your own to find alumnae)

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by kddani

PMing strangers on the internet for help in finding local alumnae is not "working heartily" (particularly without any prior interactions with said stranger, and without giving any indication that you put forth effort on your own to find alumnae)

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by kddani

PMing strangers on the internet for help in finding local alumnae is not "working heartily" (particularly without any prior interactions with said stranger, and without giving any indication that you put forth effort on your own to find alumnae)

Wince. Truer words were never spoken.

ellebud's advice was dead-on. At this point, I'd work on developing conversation skills that don't include anything about veterinary school or horses.

[equinerider26]

Originally Posted by kddani

PMing strangers on the internet for help in finding local alumnae is not "working heartily" (particularly without any prior interactions with said stranger, and without giving any indication that you put forth effort on your own to find alumnae)

Yes, I did PM a few women who mentioned that they would be willing to help PNMs find local recommendations. I am also talking to friends, parents of friends, co-workers, and family friends as well. I simply figured that I would open as many doors to help with recruitment as possible.

And thank you annabella for your help.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

To be fair, my state currently still has a quite compeittive 6 year med program (BSMD) between a med school and like 5 state schools.

However, if you met someone who was in it, they wouldn't say they were already in med school or accepted into med school. They'd just say "I'm a freshman in the BSMD program." [because you weren't guaranteed to continue to med school if you didn't fulfill the requirements]

Interesting. LSU stopped with my class. I know a lot of other schools did too. My husband started med school at 17 without that program and knowing him, I'd say maturity levels vary widely. There must have been some bad experiences along the way to warrant shutting down the programs.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

"I'm a freshman in the BSMD program."

All I can say is, you might get a LOT of weird looks if someone dyslexic read that.