Arizona governor signs immigration bill

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

"Papers, please"....remind you of a certain period in history?? I am appalled!!!!

I keep forgetting the quote feature is my best friend. Yep, I agree with this. It's sad.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Meanwhile2, this is when being a...white Hispanic really kicks ass because your ethnic identity is overshadowed by your racial identity.

IDK about the "kick ass" part, but I was told this when I complained about the bill. "What are you complaining about, it's not like they are gonna stop you!"

I understand what the governor was trying to accomplish with this bill, but the outcome (like DrPhil said) will just be wrong.

I like how people are saying this WON'T turn into racial profiling because illegal Hispanics aren't the only "illegals"--you got people from the Asian countries, as well as European ones. Yeah, like the cops will really stop a white man and say "let me see your papers, I think you might be here illegally."

[Ghostwriter]

If the Federal Government were doing it's job and protecting our borders AZ wouldn't have to do anything and the borders would be secure.

I don't have a problem if I am stopped. I happen to have dark skin. (Native American on my Father's side). Big F-ing deal! The illegal aliens should be sent back across the border and come in the proper way.

[Ghostwriter]

^^^^ Go away, troll.

[Kevlar281]

I'm not sure where everyone in this thread is from but there are already parts of the country that do random stops. Usually it is in close proximity to the border. If I'm driving around in the valley I know there is a good chance I'm getting stopped at a border patrol checkpoint.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

If the Federal Government were doing it's job and protecting our borders AZ wouldn't have to do anything and the borders would be secure.

I don't have a problem if I am stopped. I happen to have dark skin. (Native American on my Father's side). Big F-ing deal! The illegal aliens should be sent back across the border and come in the proper way.

A lot of times, people think I'm Hispanic because of my darker olive tone. I guess I get it from my mom's southern Greek side of the family and my dad is Italian, so I guess that explains my skin tone. I agree with keeping the "illegal aliens" on their side of the border unless they're gonna come over the proper way, but I am totally against stopping someone because they "LOOK" a certain way. That's SO wrong. Oh, and I would have a major problem if I was stopped, because of the way I "look".

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by bigsal

I don't remember ree-Xi complaining when honest hardworking taxpayers have to provided ss numbers so they can pay taxes to support all the illegals and the (racial slur) that are too lazy to work.

Were you there when I had my first job at 16? I don't even have anything to say to this insanely stupid comment. You can't fight ignorance and bigotry when it's in-breed.

You obviously didn't get my historical reference. Maybe they should go house to house and get rid of all of the ignorant bigots in this country.

Oh, and bye-bye. You'll be banned soon.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

Maybe they should go house to house and get rid of all of the ignorant bigots in this country.

THIS
and they can start with Max.

[AZTheta]

Hate Speech is intolerable and unacceptable in any venue.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

Oh, and bye-bye. You'll be banned soon.

Which is just one of the many reasons we should all ignore him instead of giving him the attention he so desperately craves.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

If the Federal Government were doing it's job and protecting our borders AZ wouldn't have to do anything and the borders would be secure.

I believe you hit the spot with this one. Out of all the southern states, Arizona has the most severe problems with illegal immigration and crimes associated with it. I'm not saying that there isn't going to be problems enforcing it, but I believe that this bill was passed because lawmakers felt that they had to take matters into their own hand as opposed to waiting for the Federal Gov to do something about it.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Kevlar281

I'm not sure where everyone in this thread is from but there are already parts of the country that do random stops. Usually it is in close proximity to the border. If I'm driving around in the valley I know there is a good chance I'm getting stopped at a border patrol checkpoint.

A lot of cities have identified themselves as "sanctuary" cities where police and non immigration related Gov agencies are prohibited from asking an individual any questions about citizenship or immigration status. With this law being passed it allows local police to run immigration checks on anyone who gives probable cause.

I think we should sit back and see how this ends up being enforced. I don't believe that cops are going to start pulling over hispanics just to see if they are here illegally, I think they will do immigration checks in conjunction with criminal history checks when they already have a subject for DWI or assault or whatever infraction/misdemeanor.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by epchick

IDK about the "kick ass" part, but I was told this when I complained about the bill. "What are you complaining about, it's not like they are gonna stop you!"

I understand what the governor was trying to accomplish with this bill, but the outcome (like DrPhil said) will just be wrong.

I like how people are saying this WON'T turn into racial profiling because illegal Hispanics aren't the only "illegals"--you got people from the Asian countries, as well as European ones. Yeah, like the cops will really stop a white man and say "let me see your papers, I think you might be here illegally."

This bill is a hot topic in this area but I think people need to simmer down and see how AZ police plan to enforce it. A local radio station was saying that if you are US citizen hispanic/latino and don't have your birth certificate on you when pulled over in AZ that you'll be deported. SO NOT TRUE. I think that there are a lot of scare tactics being used to attack this bill, sort of like the death panels, health care rationing rumors that were going on last year in regards to health care reform.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

This bill is a hot topic in this area but I think people need to simmer down and see how AZ police plan to enforce it. A local radio station was saying that if you are US citizen hispanic/latino and don't have your birth certificate on you when pulled over in AZ that you'll be deported. SO NOT TRUE. I think that there are a lot of scare tactics being used to attack this bill, sort of like the death panels, health care rationing rumors that were going on last year in regards to health care reform.

Little tit for tat? The problem is, they specifically said that you don't have to be suspected of any crime to be checked.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Little tit for tat? The problem is, they specifically said that you don't have to be suspected of any crime to be checked.

Oh, being here illegally ISN'T a crime?