Student suspended for facebook slam against teacher

[RaggedyAnn]

But, what about if it affects the teacher, say when he applies for another job somewhere?

My parents would have made me write a letter of apology to the teacher.

[Ooh La La]

It also says the facebook page was removed. So I don't think it would affect the teacher's job hunt.

My parents also would have made me write an apology. The kid was rude and probably should. However, if the teacher really had been calling this student stupid, maybe both parties deserve an apology.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

My parents also would have made me write an apology. The kid was rude and probably should. However, if the teacher really had been calling this student stupid, maybe both parties deserve an apology.

Then the CHILD needs to handle it through the proper parental channels. Regardless of what people think in this Internet era, proper channels are not replaced by the Internet.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Well, after reading the article, I feel as if he make derogatory comment about a teacher on the net (which regardless if you are at home or wherever) that can be seen by the public, then what happens next is on you.

Isn't this why we keep hearing about people who post pics or say stuff and get caught because they publicly post stuff on facebook?

I'm sorry, your 1st amendment rights may end at home but the internet is just like being outside.

If he was making critical comments about how the teaching style was disagreeable or that he felt as if he wasn't learning at a particular pace, then fine but if he said for instance, "Mr Smith is a fucking douchbag." well, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Co-sign 100%

[DaemonSeid]

Another thing comes to mind. People are harping that he did it in the privacy of his own home.

Hmm...last I checked, facebook is accessible anywhere you have the ways and means to do so.

Moreso, this wasn't just a status update, but a Fan page.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Moreso, this wasn't just a status update, but a Fan page.

Off with his head!

He got what he wanted: Attention and an ability to vent. Luckily, he is also getting what his child mind didn't consider when he CREATED the page.

I have absolutely no tolerance for unruly children and students, including college students. The behavior has to be challenged head-on instead of leaving it up to them to realize the error of their ways.

[Ooh La La]

Yeah, but here's the thing. In the end it's still a CHILD doing something stupid. Eventually he wised up, realized it was a mistake, and took down the page. It was taken down. Who hasn't said something stupid as a kid? He obviously learned his lesson, but suspension simply isn't acceptable when it doesn't occur on school grounds.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

Yeah, but here's the thing. In the end it's still a CHILD doing something stupid.

And that's why he can be held accountable by his high school (and parents).

The same goes for ADULTS who do stupid things on facebook and are held accountable in the workplace or college/university.

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

Eventually he wised up, realized it was a mistake, and took down the page. It was taken down before school the next day. Who hasn't said something stupid as a kid?

Kids these days have been allowed to fly off the handle and that is partly due to the Internet and excuses being made for their behaviors.

He created a fan page. Children only learn lessons when the excuses end and there are negative consequences for their behaviors. I am glad that his school is punishing him and not leaving it up to the parents. If his parents are smart, they will also punish him, including making him close his facebook account. I don't think children should have myspace and facebook, anyway.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

Yeah, but here's the thing. In the end it's still a CHILD doing something stupid. Eventually he wised up, realized it was a mistake, and took down the page. It was taken down before school the next day. Who hasn't said something stupid as a kid? He obviously learned his lesson, but suspension simply isn't acceptable when it doesn't occur on school grounds.

Correction...it was up for 5 days.

5 days 50 hits...do the math.

[DaemonSeid]

if his parents were extra smart, they wouldn't have waited a 1/2 a school year to follow up on this. This would have been nipped in the bud and monitored after that first PTA meeting in November.

[Ooh La La]

The school's responsibility to give out punishments ends at school. It does not extend into the home. That isn't just my opinion. It's something that has been confirmed in higher court many times in the past. If the parents did choose to pursue legal action, there's almost no doubt they will win.

The issue right now is not if the child did something wrong. It is if he did something wrong that occurred on school grounds and directly affected the school. He did not. The post was removed before school the next day. The school overstepped its boundaries. They have no right to police matters that don't occur in school.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

The school's responsibility to give out punishments ends at school.

No, the school's responsibility to give out punishments extends to all behaviors that impact the school. That also applies to students who use school property for personal use (which wasn't the case in this instance).

However, it would be hilarious for a student to stop doing homework and tell a teacher "you have no say over what I do at home."

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

The school's responsibility to give out punishments ends at school. It does not extend into the home. [needs citation] That isn't just my opinion. It's something that has been confirmed in higher court many times in the past. [needs citations] If the parents did choose to pursue legal action, there's almost no doubt they will win. [needs citation].

Hate to go all Wikipedia on you, but really....

Really.

At any rate, it's good for kids to learn that online postings can have serious real world consequences while in high school than when they're applying for jobs, or God forbid, in a court of law.

[Ooh La La]

Dr. Phil, I think your clear crotchety attitude against adolescents is affecting your judgement here.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

Dr. Phil, I think your clear crotchety attitude against adolescents is affecting your judgement here.

You were just a badass kid who didn't get punished for your behavior.