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Old 02-15-2010, 02:37 PM
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We've been talking about this, and have a question: are professors always tenured after x amount of years? Is it that unusual not to receive tenure?
No. It is based on an annual review and a tenure review after a set number of years (depends on the school).

Unfortunately, not every university offers tenure. For the schools that have tenure, the tenure-track and longterm-contract-with-tenure-potential faculty qualify for tenure review.

Across academia it isn't uncommon for faculty who are up for tenure to not receive it the first and even the second time. For many departments it is rare for someone to be denied tenure if they've followed the formal and informal advice and procedures. It is an extremely frustrating political process. ("Frustrating" only translates to violence for those with a predisposition for it. )
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Old 02-15-2010, 02:39 PM
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There has been discussion on another board I frequent about her having invented some sort of cell incubator, the patent to which the University forced her to turn over to them. If true (I haven't had time to do any digging), this could have been an exacerbating factor.
Well, she should've seen it coming if she signed the "intellectual property" contract that faculty and graduate students have to sign at many schools.
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Old 02-15-2010, 03:11 PM
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Is it true that all this woman's victims were of color?
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:12 PM
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Is it true that all this woman's victims were of color?
What? I haven't heard that. I hope not.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:25 PM
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From what I saw the 3 fatally shot colleagues were racial and ethnic minorities. I have not seen a photo of all 6 colleagues.

That would be interesting but not shocking if she felt as many do, that she was denied advancements because of the advancements of minorities.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35404881...rts/?GT1=43001

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Old 02-15-2010, 08:42 PM
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From what I saw the 3 colleagues were racial and ethnic minorities.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35404881...rts/?GT1=43001
And the plot thickens, DUN DUN DUN! Everyone jump to conclusions NOW!! We all know that whites are racist, and that women, in general, are mentally imbalanced and needy. Since she IS a white woman it's clearly evident that this was a PMS fueled hate crime.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:45 PM
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And the plot thickens, DUN DUN DUN! Everyone jump to conclusions NOW!! We all know that whites are racist, and that women, in general, are mentally imbalanced and needy. Since she IS a white woman it's clearly evident that this was a PMS fueled hate crime.
Settle down, Beavis.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:45 PM
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And the plot thickens, DUN DUN DUN! Everyone jump to conclusions NOW!! We all know that whites are racist, and that women, in general, are mentally imbalanced and needy. Since she IS a white woman it's clearly evident that this was a PMS fueled hate crime.
Hurry and pat yourself on the back for this attempt at sarcasm.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:41 PM
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Is it true that all this woman's victims were of color?
I saw their pictures on the news a few days ago and took note of the fact that all three were racial and ethnic minorities. However, I didn't want to jump to any conclusions about her motive in that regard.
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:58 PM
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Hurry and pat yourself on the back for this attempt at sarcasm.
I wasn't going for sarcasm, I was going for ridiculousness. Kind of like Senusret bringing up the fact that the victims may all be minorities, which is insinuating that this was RACIALLY MOTIVATED. Like I said, Lets all just jump to conclusions!
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:01 PM
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I wasn't going for sarcasm
Which is unfortunate because you're the only one jumping to conclusions.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:01 PM
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I wasn't going for sarcasm, I was going for ridiculousness. Kind of like Senusret bringing up the fact that the victims may all be minorities, which is insinuating that this was RACIALLY MOTIVATED. Like I said, Lets all just jump to conclusions!
I didn't bring up any facts. I asked a question.

You made an insinuation.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:03 PM
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Which is unfortunate because you're the only one jumping to conclusions.
Which is also true.

I think it's sad that we can't even, as ASTalumna06 said, make an observation without fear of how that observation may be perceived.

For what it's worth, a fb friend of mine mentioned it in one of his status messages, and it concerned him because he is also a young professor of color.

See, when you're a minority, you think about these things. When you're not, you usually don't have to, so you don't.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:05 PM
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I didn't bring up any facts. I asked a question.

You made an insinuation.
The facts apparently frightened PiKA2001. He's like any other person who gets a little scared with any mention of race. He overreacts and yells "oh shit! Run for cover!!!" The irony in that is funny.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:07 PM
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The facts apparently frightened PiKA2001. He's like any other person who gets a little scared with any mention of race. He overreacts and yells "oh shit! Run for cover!!!" The irony in that is funny.
Doesn't he know that I call the Race Wars around here?
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