Disappointed in Membership

[CrimsonRage]

Originally posted by Discogoddess:
Wait a minute, Disillusioned! If you and your friend/soror/sister ARE in indeed members of an NPHC organization, you would know, as a matter of your membership process, what the rules are regarding renouncing one sorority (NPHC, NPC, etc.) and joining another. Why do you all not know this? What's REALLY goin' on????

I was just going to say the EXACT same thing. If you were a member of an NPHC organization, there would be no reason for you to even ask this question. Hmmmmmmm. But I guess whatever the basis of this question is, we will never know since so many people front, lie, and do everything else on this forum.


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[cash78mere]

Originally posted by BlueReign:
I wonder if we know the same people. I know a man who told me he pledged something else back in the 70's and then recently he became a member of another fraternity. Both are NPHC fraternities. I wondered how he could go around boasting about something like this.

Hey BlueReign!

Wouldn't that be hysterical if we knew the same people? But...the 2 I know of are members of NPC sororities and are in their lower/mid 20's.

I don't know how they got away with it. I guess not every school checks the prospectives thoroughly. Maybe that's something that Panhellenic/Pan Hell./IFC/etc should focus on a little more at some schools if they don't already do so.

[AKA_Monet]

It takes awhile to get complete background checks...

But you know, I wouldn't want anybody finding out that I was on line with one organization, dropped out of line then tried to join another organization--especially if I was in a NPHC fraternity--that's how some folxs get....

[Finer Woman10-A-91]

I am simply amazed at the whole concept. My Sorors and sister greeks have bottom lined this issue. The idea is ILLEGAL and SIMPLY BAD FORM

But looking at the HEART of this...WHY on earth would anyone believe that EVERY moment even in your "choice" Sorority or Fraternity for that matter will be pleasant? Who told you this was EASY? It's not. WE give a WHOLE lot of the selfish "i" up for the betterment of "WE".

These threads are really starting to get under my skin. I have been in my Sorority for almost 10 years...3/14/91 and no I am not posting my crossing time :P (its about to be ON!!!!!)Its becoming painfully clear that Greek life has really become a "fashion statement" to some and that hurts. I WORK HARD for my organization!

Before you do anything give some consideration to the long term implications of your actions. Its a fact Sorority life and Fraternity life is not for everyone.

For those new members who are feeling a little like "this is not what I wanted". My advice to you is your organization is for both your pruning and personal growth. Many have come before you. Let us honor our elders. And many will come after you. There will be many lessons to learn. Some lessons will plain HURT. While other lessons learned will give you the kind of pride and honor you will never ever experience outside of your sisterhood!

Fraudulently presenting yourself to another organization, is disrespectful to your original choice who obviously loved you, believed in you, TRUSTED you with his or her rituals, history, and traditions. It also defiles the code of ethics of the NPHC. It is a LOSE/LOSE situation. Perceived temporary selfish satisfaction will lead to something soooooooooo horrible, you will wish you were never greek.

I too know of a case where this happened. To be expelled TWICE AND be the object of ridicule, mockery, and potential harm by THOUSANDS of GREEKS is not a place ANY SANE person should knowingly go. Trust me, the NPHC is a very small world.

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[Billy Optimist]

Why would anybody turn their back on their brother/sisterhood?? I do not understand this at all. Especilly if you worked so at getting there. Why give up just cuz times are hard. That is LIFE, hard times happen, and when the going gets tuff, the tuff get going. I know that is cliche, but it wouldn't be if it wasn't true. The idea of wanting to quit just compleatly (sp?) escapes me.

[onesavvydiva]

I just wanted to put in my two cents. I am not a member of any sorority, but I think that one thing that we must keep in mind, whether we be prospects, new members, or "old school" members...first and foremost, in a sorority, THEY ARE ALL WOMEN FIRST!!! Just because you share a 'sisterly bond' with someone doesn't mean that you will automatically become bosom buddies. Of course, ideally, that's how it would go, but REALISTICALLY, there are personalities, and habits, and such that have to be overcome.

Anything worth having has to be worked at, pruned, pampered, etc. So, IF this friend can't is so ready to call it all off, and throw in the towel, then I am sure she wasn't much of an asset to that org. in the begining and it IS in their best interest for her to let it go. (Yet, if she is so apt to give up something that she's pledged her heart to forever, then maybe Greek Life isn't the first priority she needs to work on.) Hope this all makes sense, I am up late, and can't sleep!

[justmyo]

WHAT'S THE REAL DEAL.WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE REAL REASON THIS PERSON DOES NOT WANT TO BE A MEMBER ANY LONGER.IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE SHE CAN'T RUN THINGS HER WAY.SHE NEEDS TO LOOK AT HERSELF AND SEE THAT WHATEVER PROBLEMS SHE'S HAVING WITH HER SORORITY SHE'LL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH A NEW ONE.it'S NOT THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S FLAWED,IT'S HER.IT'S FOR LIFE RATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.YOU CAN BECOME INACTIVE AND NEVER WEAR YOU LETTERS,BUT YOUR NAME WILL BE DOWN AT NATIONALS FOR EVER.IF SHE LIKES SHE CAN SIMLPY WAIT UNTIL SHE GRADUATES AND GET ACTIVE WITH THE GRAD CHAPTER,SHE MAY FIND PERSONALITIES THAT ARE SUITED TO HERS.ASK YOUSELF THIS" WHAT IF ALL THE MEMBERS WERE JUST LIKE ME,AND EVERYBODY DID WHAT I DID?
WE WOULD HAVE SOME VERY DULL ORGANIZATIONS.IT'S OUR DIFFERENCES THAT MAKE US WHO WE ARE.

[DableST_1]

O.K. is it me or is this NEW generation messed up? I have NEVER EVER heard of someone joining a greek organization, and then wanting out to join another. NPHC organizations are a LIFE-TIME commitment. I could not imagine joining something JUST to join, ALTHOUGH I have heard of people joining (b/c they didn't have the grades... didn't want to wait..... thier entire family belong to that organization...JUST WANTED TO BE GREEK.. ect.) I remember as a child the only thing that I knew about greek was Zeta and PHI Beta Sigma( I have 23 Zeta's in my family and 17 Sigmas). When I went to college, the Delta's appealed to me the most, and I knew that, that was what I wanted to be. And today I stand B-4 U being the ONLY Delta in my family I can't IMAGINE wearing Blue and White (or pink and green..blue and gold) on the outside with Crimson and Cream in my heart!!!

[Tom Earp]

There seems to be a problem here. All of the NPC have ineter conecting records to keep this very thing from happening. # 2 Men are members if the IFC.
If you joined in the first place , you messed up if it was just a name and you have to live with it or not hang with them. You are still a member of that Soro.

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Tom Earp LX Z#1
Pittsburg State U. (Kansas)

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by DableST_1:
O.K. is it me or is this NEW generation messed up?

Yeah, most of you all are a trip!

[AlphaChiGirl]

Despite what many people think, membership in NPC and NIC groups are JUST AS MUCH OF A LIFETIME COMMITTMENT as NPHC groups! Alumnae participation may differ, but I'm really tired of this attitude that just because I'm in an NPC sorority, that it's not that important to me and I can switch when I want to at anytime. The NPC is actually pretty organized to prevent things like this AFTER INITIATION. True, there are some people who have succeeded at this little charade in NPC, NIC, and NPHC groups. But, Greek letter organization is a LIFETIME COMMITTMENT regardless of the national organizing body.

[AKA2D '91]

My sister in greekdom,

If you KNOW that your sentiments are correct, then YOU DON'T HAVE to continue to DEFEND yourself, your organization, or ANY non-NPHC organization!

Just let it gooooooooo!

OKAY?
OKAY!

[MaMaBuddha]

hmmmmm....

this is an interesting question...but what is even more interesting is the responses.



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[mccoyred]

...defensive...???

Originally posted by AlphaChiGirl:
Despite what many people think, membership in NPC and NIC groups are JUST AS MUCH OF A LIFETIME COMMITTMENT as NPHC groups! Alumnae participation may differ, but I'm really tired of this attitude that just because I'm in an NPC sorority, that it's not that important to me and I can switch when I want to at anytime. The NPC is actually pretty organized to prevent things like this AFTER INITIATION. True, there are some people who have succeeded at this little charade in NPC, NIC, and NPHC groups. But, Greek letter organization is a LIFETIME COMMITTMENT regardless of the national organizing body.

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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

[Ideal08]

Originally posted by AlphaChiGirl:
Despite what many people think, membership in NPC and NIC groups are JUST AS MUCH OF A LIFETIME COMMITTMENT as NPHC groups! Alumnae participation may differ, but I'm really tired of this attitude that just because I'm in an NPC sorority, that it's not that important to me and I can switch when I want to at anytime. The NPC is actually pretty organized to prevent things like this AFTER INITIATION. True, there are some people who have succeeded at this little charade in NPC, NIC, and NPHC groups. But, Greek letter organization is a LIFETIME COMMITTMENT regardless of the national organizing body.

AlphaChiGirl,

Can you de-activate from your sorority? Once you de-activate, is it then as if you are not in a sorority? If so, once de-activating, can you join another sorority? I am asking these questions out of general curiousity, not trying to start anything.

Now, I'm going to pose some questions, not to rile anyone, but to provoke a little thinking. And this is not just for NPC sororities or IFC frats, this is addressed to NPHC members as well.

What is the percentage of your members that remain active after graduation from undergrad? Meaning, active and financial? How many of you continue going to regional and national conferences after graduation? For those of you who have graduated already, how many people from your line (or pledge class) are still active and financial in your org?