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11-03-2009, 08:04 PM
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Welp, being a JerrysWorld Stripper/Dancer, er I mean Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader who dresses in heinous color brown make up as a funky high paid rapper whose shelf life will be spent soon, does NOT rank high on my relevancy radar.
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11-03-2009, 09:56 PM
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^^^ Yes, but blackface was not a realistic portrayal of African Americans, even of the time. It was without exception, even when used by Black minstrels, used to potray negative stereotypes. What she was doing was applying makeup to appear to be somebody else. What about all the actors who used makeup to make themselves look Black or Arab in order to portray Othello? Same concept I think.
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Ever see "Birth of Nation" and how Blacks were portrayed? Then to have President Woodrow Wilson say that this movie is one of the most relevant and concerning movies in the nation?
In fact the Klan would dress themselves in Blackface, just before they burned down places like Rosewood in Florida. My own grandmother remembers this event accurately...
So when a dingbat stripper cheerleaders decides to think it is funny to go as Lil Wayne in dark brown make up to make herself black, I am sorry, but I take offense.
Are you seriously comparing a 15th century play as written to what dingbat stripper does in the 21st century?
Alas, reality dictates that this dumbshit does not matter in the end and nothing will change for ignorant asshats who convince others that nothing is wrong with this dysfunction.
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11-03-2009, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito
What about all the actors who used makeup to make themselves look Black or Arab in order to portray Othello? Same concept I think.
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That wouldn't fly today, either.
The scariest mf'ing thing about Birth of a Nation is that it's really well made and involving, and I found myself rooting for the KKK.  It's not like one of those cheesy end times movies or school hygiene films.
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11-04-2009, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
In fact the Klan would dress themselves in Blackface, just before they burned down places like Rosewood in Florida. My own grandmother remembers this event accurately...
So when a dingbat stripper cheerleaders decides to think it is funny to go as Lil Wayne in dark brown make up to make herself black, I am sorry, but I take offense.
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You draw this comparison...
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Are you seriously comparing a 15th century play as written to what dingbat stripper does in the 21st century?
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Then you say that this comparison is unreasonable.
I find your distinction to be somewhat arbitrary.
I mean.. because dressing up like Lil' Wayne is so much more like the KKK wearing blackface while burning down Rosewood than actors wearing blackface to perform in plays written in the 15th century... eh?
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11-04-2009, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
Ever see "Birth of Nation" and how Blacks were portrayed? Then to have President Woodrow Wilson say that this movie is one of the most relevant and concerning movies in the nation?
In fact the Klan would dress themselves in Blackface, just before they burned down places like Rosewood in Florida. My own grandmother remembers this event accurately...
So when a dingbat stripper cheerleaders decides to think it is funny to go as Lil Wayne in dark brown make up to make herself black, I am sorry, but I take offense.
Are you seriously comparing a 15th century play as written to what dingbat stripper does in the 21st century?
Alas, reality dictates that this dumbshit does not matter in the end and nothing will change for ignorant asshats who convince others that nothing is wrong with this dysfunction.
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The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders are not strippers.
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11-04-2009, 12:48 AM
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But it's not like they've got a ton of room to be promoted within the organization.... is it a coincidence that Dallas is known for premier strip clubs? SHATTER THAT GLASS CEILING, LADIES!
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11-04-2009, 12:54 AM
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Wow. People will clearly find any reason to be offended.
For the record: Lil Wayne, Flava Flav, Soulja Boy and the like present themselves to be more minstrel show-ish than anyone who could imitate them.
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11-04-2009, 01:03 AM
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Flava Flav started that and nobody can do it like him.
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11-04-2009, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet
Ever see "Birth of Nation" and how Blacks were portrayed? Then to have President Woodrow Wilson say that this movie is one of the most relevant and concerning movies in the nation?
In fact the Klan would dress themselves in Blackface, just before they burned down places like Rosewood in Florida. My own grandmother remembers this event accurately...
So when a dingbat stripper cheerleaders decides to think it is funny to go as Lil Wayne in dark brown make up to make herself black, I am sorry, but I take offense.
Are you seriously comparing a 15th century play as written to what dingbat stripper does in the 21st century?
Alas, reality dictates that this dumbshit does not matter in the end and nothing will change for ignorant asshats who convince others that nothing is wrong with this dysfunction.
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Personally, I think calling someone you don't know a "dumbshit" "asshat" with "low self-esteem" that "doesn't matter", is far worse than dressing yourself up like a famous rapper on Halloween. She is a stripper now too...apparently because she is a cheerleader.
Are you seriously comparing a 20 something year old girl's costume to the Klan putting on blackface in 1923 before burning a cemetery? That makes just shitloads of sense. Figured I'd ask since you so casually dismissed the other poster's thoughts/comparison. Bringing up Birth of a Nation isn't relevant either.
There isn't a shred of evidence to suggest any malicious intent with her costume.
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11-04-2009, 01:49 AM
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What about all the actors who used makeup to make themselves look Black or Arab in order to portray Othello? Same concept I think.
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Just so that everyone is clear, Anthony Hopkins did play Othello in the BBC production and here are the pictures to prove it. He wasn't all that dark with his makeup though, if I remember correctly.
(That's Bob Hoskins behind him)

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11-04-2009, 01:53 AM
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Just so that everyone is clear, Anthony Hopkins did play Othello in the BBC production and here are the pictures to prove it. He wasn't all that dark with his makeup though, if I remember correctly.
(That's Bob Hoskins behind him)


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I think he was trying to go with the Arab look which requires less make up. And Laurence Olivier did Othello in 1965 with black face on. This was in the UK, so it probably isn't quite the same.
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11-04-2009, 01:54 AM
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Clearly she showed poor judgment, because she should have known that dressing in blackface, no matter the intention, is going to be perceived a certain way and she is going to get attacked. It is a stupid choice of costume, because even if it is not malicious there are literally millions of choices that are more clever and would not offend anybody.
That said, she dressed up as Lil' Wayne, who is a very popular entertainer. At the least I'd say it is impossible to judge if she was being racist in her intentions. Now, if she had dressed up as a "ghetto hoe" in blackface, or was carrying around a box of KFC and a Kool-Aid, it would be 100% clear that she was being maliciously racist. But as it stands, dressing up as a famous entertainer, even with blackface, can only prove that she is an idiot and not that she has anything against black people. Although I cannot fault anybody for feeling offended by it, I can see why you would be offended especially if you knew the history behind blackface. But if I had to guess, this chick has no idea about the history and simply wanted to dress like a rapper and did not realize the implications it would hold, which makes her an idiot, true, but you can't claim she is racist with any certainty.
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11-04-2009, 02:31 AM
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agreed ^^^
She just thought, I want to be a black guy for Halloween. I am not a black guy. I need to make myself look like a black guy. I will paint myself to look like a black person.
Me? If I want to be something, I just be the character without the paint. I have an aversion to smearing crap all over my body. You could still tell I was baby spice the 3 years i went out as a Spice Girl without a full body makeover. Or Glinda the Good Witch this year, or whatever else. But that's just me.
ETA:Just looked at the pic. She definitely looks stupid, but not racist. I mean, anyone who wants to emulate little Wayne (a man who is hideous and still has at least 4 kids, 3 of which are born within a one year period) are just stupid. Why. Because Little Wayne's pretty stupid, rich, but stupid.
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11-04-2009, 12:34 PM
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agreed ^^^
She just thought, I want to be a black guy for Halloween. I am not a black guy. I need to make myself look like a black guy. I will paint myself to look like a black person.
Me? If I want to be something, I just be the character without the paint. I have an aversion to smearing crap all over my body. You could still tell I was baby spice the 3 years i went out as a Spice Girl without a full body makeover. Or Glinda the Good Witch this year, or whatever else. But that's just me.
ETA:Just looked at the pic. She definitely looks stupid, but not racist. I mean, anyone who wants to emulate little Wayne (a man who is hideous and still has at least 4 kids, 3 of which are born within a one year period) are just stupid. Why. Because Little Wayne's pretty stupid, rich, but stupid.
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The fact that he reproduced four times is scary enough for me.
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11-04-2009, 12:45 PM
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Wow. People will clearly find any reason to be offended. 
For the record: Lil Wayne, Flava Flav, Soulja Boy and the like present themselves to be more minstrel show-ish than anyone who could imitate them.
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Yes.
I still don't see the big deal with it. Poor judgement, but not "OMFG! THAT RACIST BITCH"-worthy by any means.
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