Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Facing Costume Controversy

[thetygerlily]

Originally Posted by Sadfly

Yea, right!

lol I wasn't saying everyone should be that, and I'm certainly not anywhere close... but it's more realistic than model sizes 0-2.

[WinniBug]

I really hope this comes across the right way...
If someone's a vampire for Halloween, they'd paint their face white, and if they're going as Elphaba, they'd paint themselves green. Why not?

[LatinaAlumna]

^Well, first, those are fictional characters you are talking about. Two, painting oneself as a vampire or green character simply does not have the historical connotation that painting one's face to look African American does.

[Psi U MC Vito]

^^^ Yes, but blackface was not a realistic portrayal of African Americans, even of the time. It was without exception, even when used by Black minstrels, used to potray negative stereotypes. What she was doing was applying makeup to appear to be somebody else. What about all the actors who used makeup to make themselves look Black or Arab in order to portray Othello? Same concept I think.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

^^^ Yes, but blackface was not a realistic portrayal of African Americans, even of the time. It was without exception, even when used by Black minstrels, used to potray negative stereotypes. What she was doing was applying makeup to appear to be somebody else. What about all the actors who used makeup to make themselves look Black or Arab in order to portray Othello? Same concept I think.

Ever see "Birth of Nation" and how Blacks were portrayed? Then to have President Woodrow Wilson say that this movie is one of the most relevant and concerning movies in the nation?

In fact the Klan would dress themselves in Blackface, just before they burned down places like Rosewood in Florida. My own grandmother remembers this event accurately...

So when a dingbat stripper cheerleaders decides to think it is funny to go as Lil Wayne in dark brown make up to make herself black, I am sorry, but I take offense.

Are you seriously comparing a 15th century play as written to what dingbat stripper does in the 21st century?

Alas, reality dictates that this dumbshit does not matter in the end and nothing will change for ignorant asshats who convince others that nothing is wrong with this dysfunction.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

In fact the Klan would dress themselves in Blackface, just before they burned down places like Rosewood in Florida. My own grandmother remembers this event accurately...

So when a dingbat stripper cheerleaders decides to think it is funny to go as Lil Wayne in dark brown make up to make herself black, I am sorry, but I take offense.

You draw this comparison...

Are you seriously comparing a 15th century play as written to what dingbat stripper does in the 21st century?

Then you say that this comparison is unreasonable.

I find your distinction to be somewhat arbitrary.

I mean.. because dressing up like Lil' Wayne is so much more like the KKK wearing blackface while burning down Rosewood than actors wearing blackface to perform in plays written in the 15th century... eh?

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Kevin

You draw this comparison...



Then you say that this comparison is unreasonable.

I find your distinction to be somewhat arbitrary.

I mean.. because dressing up like Lil' Wayne is so much more like the KKK wearing blackface while burning down Rosewood than actors wearing blackface to perform in plays written in the 15th century... eh?

Plays written by Shakespeare in our society are called art...

This dingbat dressing like Lil Wayne as a Halloween costume is not art. IMO, I'm offended because it was DUMB! We can think all we want about our own private actions, but when we represent a larger organization, like the Dallas Cowboy Strippers, errr Cheerleaders, and we dress in questionable attire for a holiday that can be construed as insensitive to some, then there will be flack!

Why did she choose to do Lil Wayne (who I'm not a huge fan of) and buy brown make up to make that costume? The best I can come up with is yes, she's that ignorant and insensitive? C'mon, how many brain cells did it take her to come up with that logic?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Plays written by Shakespeare in our society are called art...

That seems like an awfully arbitrary distinction though. The Birth of a Nation could very arguably be called art. At any rate, so as per you, if it's art, it's a-okay? (and it, in this context, is obviously blackface)

Why did she choose to do Lil Wayne (who I'm not a huge fan of) and buy brown make up to make that costume? The best I can come up with is yes, she's that ignorant and insensitive? C'mon, how many brain cells did it take her to come up with that logic?

Why she chose Lil Wayne is probably something that's between her and God. As to why she wore brown makeup on her face? Do you think anyone, even if she had worn a nametag, would have gotten the costume without the proper skin tone adjustments being made? Lil Wayne is a dark skinned guy, hence, if you're a light-skinned individual, one way of making yourself look more like Lil Wayne is to wear dark makeup on your skin. No logic needed -- just a keen eye for color.

[KD4Me]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Ever see "Birth of Nation" and how Blacks were portrayed? Then to have President Woodrow Wilson say that this movie is one of the most relevant and concerning movies in the nation?

In fact the Klan would dress themselves in Blackface, just before they burned down places like Rosewood in Florida. My own grandmother remembers this event accurately...

So when a dingbat stripper cheerleaders decides to think it is funny to go as Lil Wayne in dark brown make up to make herself black, I am sorry, but I take offense.

Are you seriously comparing a 15th century play as written to what dingbat stripper does in the 21st century?

Alas, reality dictates that this dumbshit does not matter in the end and nothing will change for ignorant asshats who convince others that nothing is wrong with this dysfunction.

The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders are not strippers.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by KD4Me

The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders are not strippers.

Why you dance at JerrysWorld on the pole?

[christiangirl]

Wow. People will clearly find any reason to be offended.

For the record: Lil Wayne, Flava Flav, Soulja Boy and the like present themselves to be more minstrel show-ish than anyone who could imitate them.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Wow. People will clearly find any reason to be offended.

For the record: Lil Wayne, Flava Flav, Soulja Boy and the like present themselves to be more minstrel show-ish than anyone who could imitate them.

Yes.

I still don't see the big deal with it. Poor judgement, but not "OMFG! THAT RACIST BITCH"-worthy by any means.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Wow. People will clearly find any reason to be offended.

Or people choose to discuss the stupidity of delving into something that is potentially offensive to ANYONE.

Originally Posted by christiangirl

For the record: Lil Wayne, Flava Flav, Soulja Boy and the like present themselves to be more minstrel show-ish than anyone who could imitate them.

Those people are neither minstrel show-ish (neither are they coonish). They are expressing themselves, which is what people of all races have the right to do--good or bad--agree or disagree.

The issue is when negative portrayals are most prevalent in the media and the community. And that is honestly not the entertainers' faults.

I'm so tired of Black people equating everything that THEY deem as foolish with minstrel (black face or coons).

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

What about all the actors who used makeup to make themselves look Black or Arab in order to portray Othello? Same concept I think.

That wouldn't fly today, either.

The scariest mf'ing thing about Birth of a Nation is that it's really well made and involving, and I found myself rooting for the KKK. It's not like one of those cheesy end times movies or school hygiene films.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

What about all the actors who used makeup to make themselves look Black or Arab in order to portray Othello? Same concept I think.

Just so that everyone is clear, Anthony Hopkins did play Othello in the BBC production and here are the pictures to prove it. He wasn't all that dark with his makeup though, if I remember correctly.

(That's Bob Hoskins behind him)