Recruitment Troubles...

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Anonymous414

I know that this is an old thread but I know exactly what school this is because I attended that school last year. I believe that msykes530 doesn’t have some of her facts right. This happened at Methodist University in North Carolina. Last year at Methodist, Alpha Delta Pi was the only sorority on campus and Kappa Sigma Fraternity was the only national fraternity on campus. Then a local fraternity formed into the national Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity and then Beta Sigma Phi which is traditionally not a college sorority formed on campus and stated that they were a “Service” sorority but they still participate in social activities as well.

With all due respect, msykes530, Beta Sigma Phi is a legit sorority. I was one of the Alphas in Alpha Delta Pi as well and I was super excited about recruitment. I had heard great things about Alpha Delta Pi, that it was a classy sorority who was well known for their charity with the Ronald McDonald House. But after a few weeks, I was not impressed unfortunately. I don’t mean to personally bash this sorority but half of the Alphas quit because ADPi was not really clear about dues and made it seem like we had a few months to pay them and then a month later, they said we need the money now. They also were not clear about the costs of dues. (Methodist University is the third most expensive college in North Carolina so they should understand that not everyone can afford to be in a fraternity or a sorority.) Also some of the Alphas quit because it was unorganized or that they felt like their Big didn’t like them. Some of the Bigs rarely spent time with their Littles and others seemed like favored someone else’s Little. They said that for initiation, we would not be allowed to wear makeup, fix our hair, or take a shower. We had to be all natural and so that we could “love each other and accept each other the way we are.” I personally see this as hazing and this was one of the reasons why I quit. Another reason I quit was when my friend’s family said that it was too expensive and when she quit, some of the Actives and Alphas were rude to her or would talk about her behind her back when she passed by them. This completely turned me off by ADPi and I quit for that reason as well. I didn’t want to call a these two-faced girls my “sisters.” However, not all of the ADPis at Methodist are like this. Some of them are really nice girls and I really liked them. But after I quit when I would pass by the president and another sister, they would smile and say hi and when I was walking away they would give me a Go to Hell look and start talking about me behind my back. I thought that this really gave ADPi a bad image. But a lot of the upperclassmen around campus had told me that the president of ADPi was really mean and that was typical of her.
Most of the founders of Beta Sigma Phi were dating members of Lambda Chi and they wanted to form a sorority that could mix with Lambda Chi. I knew some of the girls in Beta Sigma Phi and they were really nice. They would never try to take any of the Alphas from ADPi. ADPi was being immature and were spreading things around campus about BSP and saying things like that they were not a real sorority because they were upset that they were no longer the only sorority on campus. They should not feel threatened by BSP because ADPi is a large sorority and it may take a while for BSP to get the same amount of women.

Beta Sigma Phi clearly stated that they were primarily a service sorority, but that they participate in social activities as well. ADPi was the one who created the tension between the 2 groups. Some of the girls in Beta Sigma Phi told me that they had a movie night one time with Lambda Chi and that they had invited ADPi because they wanted both of the sororities to hang out and be friends, but none of them showed up. ADPi had a pajama party in the same room after the Beta Sigma Phi’s movie night was over and at the end all of the ADPis came in the room parading in their pajamas. Let me also state that Beta Sigma Phi did not steal of of the Alphas, but I knew a few of the Alphas that quit ADPi and joined Beta Sigma Phi in the spring. My point is that the reason why Beta Sigma Phi formed was that they just wanted to add another GLO to Methodist and also a sorority for Lambda Chi to mix with. They did not mean or want to do anything to upset ADPi.

There was alot of drama involved with the Greeks last year and alot of hostility toward each other. At Greek events, Lambda Chi and BSP would be on one side and ADPi and Kappa Sig would be on the other side. There was even an article in the school newspaper that was bashing the Greeks because of all this. I hope that in the future the Greeks at Methodist can learn to support each other and not act like its World War III. They should also learn that its not a competition of who recruits the most people or gives the out the most bids. They should understand that some girls are more fit to be an ADPi or a BSP. The same thing applies to Kappa Sig and Lambda Chi.

Also, the reason why those girls chose to start Beta Sigma Phi on campus was because they got the idea from the lady who works in the campus ministries office. She is a BSP and is their advisor.

Wow. Just wow.

And I do believe that not being permitted to shower or brush your hair would qualify as hazing.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Wow. Just wow.

And I do believe that not being permitted to shower or brush your hair would qualify as hazing.

maybe not if all the adpis have to comply with the same rule. and we don't know that this person is telling the truth, since she quit before she was initiated.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

maybe not if all the adpis have to comply with the same rule. and we don't know that this person is telling the truth, since she quit before she was initiated.

No, i'm fairly certain that restricting access to or denying permission to perform basic acts of hygiene is generally hazing. (And it's not an ADPi ritual thing, I'm certain.) whether of not she's telling the truth isn't what I'm addressing. If it happened, it would have been hazing.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

No, i'm fairly certain that restricting access to or denying permission to perform basic acts of hygiene is generally hazing. (And it's not an ADPi ritual thing, I'm certain.) whether of not she's telling the truth isn't what I'm addressing. If it happened, it would have been hazing.

Agree...no make up is one thing (don't see anything wrong with this if everyone participates), but not allowing someone to shower is another.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Agree...no make up is one thing (don't see anything wrong with this if everyone participates), but not allowing someone to shower is another.

Aye, I'm not sure about the make up except that it's kind of an arbitrary rule. And if it's not part of their ritual (according to my mom it is not or was not as of her active days) then they don't really have a place demanding it. HQ might consider it hazing as well even if it otherwise wouldn't meet the standard. They tend to pay more attention to things that occur in or around initiation for that reason.