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dukedg · #1 08-16-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TNGirl

My Rho Chi said that if I "suicide" it puts me at a greater risk for not getting my #1 than if I "maximize my options"

I think this mathematically true, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. If you list both chapters and you are not high up enough on #1's or #2's bid list, then you have a second chance to be in #1 through quota additions. Right?

twinkle555 · #2 08-16-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dukedg

I think this mathematically true, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. If you list both chapters and you are not high up enough on #1's or #2's bid list, then you have a second chance to be in #1 through quota additions. Right?

Yes i believe so

KSUViolet06 · #3 08-16-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dukedg

I think this mathematically true, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. If you list both chapters and you are not high up enough on #1's or #2's bid list, then you have a second chance to be in #1 through quota additions. Right?

It's myth that you are less likely to get your #1 if you "suicide."

Even if you "suicide", you have the SAME chance at getting a bid to your #1 as anyone else who listed ALL of their pref choices.

The only difference is that I believe "suiciding" makes you ineligible to be a quota addition (if the school utilizes them).

So you have the same shot at getting #1, but the risk is high because if you DON'T get a bid to #1, you get released from recruitment with no bid at all. That's why Rho Chis and such discourage it.

dukedg · #4 08-16-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

It's myth that you are less likely to get your #1 if you "suicide."

Even if you "suicide", you have the SAME chance at getting a bid to your #1 as anyone else who listed ALL of their pref choices.

The only difference is that I believe "suiciding" makes you ineligible to be a quota addition (if the school utilizes them).

So you have the same shot at getting #1, but the risk is high because if you DON'T get a bid to #1, you get released from recruitment with no bid at all. That's why Rho Chis and such discourage it.

I don't think I'm following you, KSUViolet06. If you don't "suicide"/ISP then you are eligible for quota additions, which gives you another chance to be placed in chapter #1 (or chapter #2), I believe.

When you ISP you must be high enough on chapter #1's bid list to get in before they fill up to quota. On the other hand, if you maximize your options and your campus guarantees a bid when you maximize your options, then you could end up in chapter #1 through quota additions if you are not high up enough on either #1's or #2's bid lists. That's why I was saying I thought your chances at getting a bid to #1 are higher because you have a second chance at getting the bid.

Or am I misunderstanding something here?

UGAalum94 · #5 08-16-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dukedg

I don't think I'm following you, KSUViolet06. If you don't "suicide"/ISP then you are eligible for quota additions, which gives you another chance to be placed in chapter #1 (or chapter #2), I believe.

When you ISP you must be high enough on chapter #1's bid list to get in before they fill up to quota. On the other hand, if you maximize your options and your campus guarantees a bid when you maximize your options, then you could end up in chapter #1 through quota additions if you are not high up enough on either #1's or #2's bid lists. That's why I was saying I thought your chances at getting a bid to #1 are higher because you have a second chance at getting the bid.

Or am I misunderstanding something here?

I think you're right, but I'd be careful telling this to PNMs, simply because they will have selective listening. They will want to forget the part about actually being willing to accept the bid to the number 2 group if you were to get it either from regular bid matching or quota additions.

Listing all the groups for which you are eligible increases your chances at getting a bid, but I don't know that I'd focus on it raising the chances to any particular one, since I don't think any campus guarantees that you QA to your top group.

KSUViolet06 · #6 08-16-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dukedg

When you ISP you must be high enough on chapter #1's bid list to get in before they fill up to quota. On the other hand, if you maximize your options and your campus guarantees a bid when you maximize your options, then you could end up in chapter #1 through quota additions if you are not high up enough on either #1's or #2's bid lists. That's why I was saying I thought your chances at getting a bid to #1 are higher because you have a second chance at getting the bid.

Or am I misunderstanding something here?

Oh no, you're right. I guess you could say that your chances are slightly lower just based on the inability to be QA. I never thought of it that way.

TNGirl · #7 08-15-2009, 06:34 PM

ok. thanks everyone. If you still have advice, I'd really appreciate it

I'm gonna talk to another Rho Chi and see if she says the same. The one I talked to seemed kinda iffy.

Titchou · #8 08-15-2009, 06:50 PM

How is it that you are online when you have attended pref but haven't signed your bid card? I thought strict silence was observed?

violetpretty · #9 08-15-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou

How is it that you are online when you have attended pref but haven't signed your bid card? I thought strict silence was observed?

Ding ding ding ding ding!

AOII Angel · #10 08-15-2009, 08:10 PM

It sounds more like you think this group isn't "good" enough for you, not that you don't mesh with anyone. To me, it sounds like you don't want to mesh with anyone. You don't even want to identify with their philanthropy. Like Vandal Squirrel said, EVERY NPC has a worthwhile and noble cause that they spend countless hours supporting. I'm sure the human beings afflicted or affected by these causes would say that their causes are worth supporting! How about looking at things with a better attitude. Or...suicide and take you chances at being unaffiliated for your entire college career.

Katmandu · #11 08-15-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

It sounds more like you think this group isn't "good" enough for you, not that you don't mesh with anyone. To me, it sounds like you don't want to mesh with anyone. You don't even want to identify with their philanthropy. Like Vandal Squirrel said, EVERY NPC has a worthwhile and noble cause that they spend countless hours supporting. I'm sure the human beings afflicted or affected by these causes would say that their causes are worth supporting! How about looking at things with a better attitude.

Yea, I find myself wondering which philanthropy is so lame that it's not worth her time.... St. Jude Hospital? Child Abuse America? Susan B. Komen Foundation? Ronald McDonald Houses?

GPhiBLtColonel · #12 08-16-2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Katmandu

Yea, I find myself wondering which philanthropy is so lame that it's not worth her time.... St. Jude Hospital? Child Abuse America? Susan B. Komen Foundation? Ronald McDonald Houses?

I suspect she thinks Campfire (Girls) USA might fall into that category....

but I hope I am wrong

ComradesTrue · #13 08-16-2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel

I suspect she thinks (DELETED) might fall into that category....

Was it necessary to mention a group?

Virtually everyone posting in this thread recognizes her campus and has done nothing to out the campus, any particular chapter, or the PNM. Everyone has been nothing but positive about the campus and the chapters.

UGAalum94 · #14 08-16-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93

Was that really necessary? Seriously?

Virtually everyone posting in this thread recognizes her campus and has done nothing to out the campus, any particular chapter, or the PNM. Everyone has been nothing but positive about the campus and the chapters.

What was accomplished by your post? If you need that many frownie faces and embarrassed faces, then perhaps it wasn't appropriate to say? Especially given the timing and the OP's state of mind right now?

Should you come to your senses and delete your post then I will delete this one. I already did what I could to disguise the POSSIBLE group in question.

What difference does it make, especially at this point?

Your reaction seems kind of over the top considering the membership of the poster in question.

BlueCarnation · #15 08-15-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

It sounds more like you think this group isn't "good" enough for you, not that you don't mesh with anyone. To me, it sounds like you don't want to mesh with anyone. You don't even want to identify with their philanthropy. Like Vandal Squirrel said, EVERY NPC has a worthwhile and noble cause that they spend countless hours supporting. I'm sure the human beings afflicted or affected by these causes would say that their causes are worth supporting! How about looking at things with a better attitude. Or...suicide and take you chances at being unaffiliated for your entire college career.

I agree. There are plenty of girls that will be proud to wear these letters, and if you will not be, then do not put that house down. Let the girls who truly want to be in that house be there. If you only are willing to be in one sorority, just list that. Just be prepared for the fact that you may end up in no sorority. There is nothing wrong with that, but you need to figure out if you are ok with that.