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07-29-2009, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by epchick
As a Texan...and a Hispanic, I have to agree. I probably wouldn't be too happy with someone who posted that sign, but I'm very aware that people have a right to their opinion.
Besides, we have a wall....that pretty much says "Hispanics Keep Out" anyways.
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Now eppie - if the Hispanics come legally, the wall isn't a problem, now is it? They can walk proudly across the bridge, papers in hand.
As to the sign - it is certainly ill-advised. Does she really have a problem with random Hispanics coming up to her door? And what if her mailperson/delivery person is Hispanic? I'd be sorely tempted to not deliver to her house . . . but stupid people do have a right to free speech on their private property. Now, if she posted that sign at her business, she'd be violating the law.
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07-29-2009, 09:22 PM
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Now eppie - if the Hispanics come legally, the wall isn't a problem, now is it? They can walk proudly across the bridge, papers in hand. 
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They can walk across the bridge...doesn't mean they are necessarily welcomed.
A 1 million ft (ok, so I don't know exactly how high the wall is, but it's pretty big) black iron wall, doesn't necessarily scream "you are welcome to come in" legal or not.
....of course the wall still doesn't stop people. lol
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07-29-2009, 09:38 PM
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Well, let's not kid ourselves. If you aren't a legal immigrant, no matter what your ethnicity, you aren't likely to be welcomed.
Similarly, you wouldn't be welcomed in Canada or most countries of the developed world, as far as I know.
I can't think of any country off the top of my head that has completely open borders and offers full rights to non-citizens.
That said, the sign under discussion doesn't say, "illegal immigrants keep out."
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08-01-2009, 10:54 PM
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They can walk across the bridge...doesn't mean they are necessarily welcomed.
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Hell no they aren't! I'm sick of getting cut off and in near collisions almost everyday by jackasses with CHEE-WAA-WAA plates. And god forbid you have to go to wal-mart,( even though i hear they have them in juarez) and don't get out of the way when you try to get by. A simple excuse me does not work. Como se dice "move your FAT ASS!" en espanol? The rudeness and sense of entitlement they exude annoys the hell out of me. My friends here say that the ones with a little money are the worst because they are extremely arrogant and think that they are better than the average American, which is beyond me. If Mexico is so much better than the US than how come you don't stay put?
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07-29-2009, 09:46 PM
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Now, if she posted that sign at her business, she'd be violating the law.
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Are you thinking civil rights laws?
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07-29-2009, 09:54 PM
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Yep - did I miss something?
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07-29-2009, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AOII Angel
It's Texas. You can shoot someone breaking into your neighbors house. Are you really surprised that you can put a sign in your yard saying anything you want, even "Hispanics Keep Out"?
Sydney K beat me to it!
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You know what's awesome?
You think this is mocking Texas. However, Texas is more right than anything here - in fact, the US Constitution supports this whole-heartedly.
Know what else is awesome? The Bill of Rights. Come on, guys.
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07-30-2009, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KSig RC
You know what's awesome?
You think this is mocking Texas. However, Texas is more right than anything here - in fact, the US Constitution supports this whole-heartedly.
Know what else is awesome? The Bill of Rights. Come on, guys.
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IDK if you were just directing your post to AOII Angel or the rest of us, but I completely agree with you. I wasn't mocking my state. The Bill of Rights is a wonderful thing.
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07-30-2009, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KSig RC
You know what's awesome?
You think this is mocking Texas. However, Texas is more right than anything here - in fact, the US Constitution supports this whole-heartedly.
Know what else is awesome? The Bill of Rights. Come on, guys.
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I can mock Texas all I want. I mock Texas not because it doesn't make a bigot take a sign out of her yard, but because it lets its citizens shoot people on other people's property. I don't agree that "Hispanics Keep Out" is hate speech; it's not inciting anyone to violence or threatening anyone. It IS bigoted, but she has a right to be bigoted. I applaud Texas for not trampling on her First amendment rights, but I can still make fun of Texas for taking other "rights" overboard. That's awesome!
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07-30-2009, 06:36 AM
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Maybe it's because I live in a tourist-y area, but here there are all kinds of rules about what you can have visible from the street if you live within city limits. A while back, there was a whole mess over a woman having a suit of armor on her front porch just because the city thought it looked "cluttered"  You'd think there would be some sort of city or county code that would cover this type of situation.
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07-30-2009, 02:10 PM
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Maybe it's because I live in a tourist-y area, but here there are all kinds of rules about what you can have visible from the street if you live within city limits. A while back, there was a whole mess over a woman having a suit of armor on her front porch just because the city thought it looked "cluttered"  You'd think there would be some sort of city or county code that would cover this type of situation.
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My town has a portion of the City Code all about signage, and there's another on public nuisances which someone would cite if this sign popped up in my town.
Of course someone in my county set a barn on fire because it had campaign support for Obama. The code actually specifies how many political sign can be within so many square feet, even for residences.
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07-30-2009, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AOII Angel
I can mock Texas all I want. I mock Texas not because it doesn't make a bigot take a sign out of her yard, but because it lets its citizens shoot people on other people's property. I don't agree that "Hispanics Keep Out" is hate speech; it's not inciting anyone to violence or threatening anyone. It IS bigoted, but she has a right to be bigoted. I applaud Texas for not trampling on her First amendment rights, but I can still make fun of Texas for taking other "rights" overboard. That's awesome!
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But I'll bet you don't come here and break into my neighbor's house!
And if those signs work, why does my little "No Solicitors" label above my doorbell not keep them away?
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07-30-2009, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
But I'll bet you don't come here and break into my neighbor's house!
And if those signs work, why does my little "No Solicitors" label above my doorbell not keep them away?
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Maybe they don't notice it because you're in Texas, where everything is supposed to be bigger?
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07-30-2009, 05:12 PM
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But I'll bet you don't come here and break into my neighbor's house!
And if those signs work, why does my little "No Solicitors" label above my doorbell not keep them away?
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Ha! I wouldn't break into your neighbors house anyway, but it doesn't stop people from breaking into homes regardless. It's not about deterring crime anyway! I personally don't think a flat screen TV is worth someone's life...especially when someone is running away from the scene with it and not an eminent threat to anyone.
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07-29-2009, 06:20 PM
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Her property. Her speech. Her beliefs.
Until they affect others, what's the difference? Don't like it? Don't read it.
We have nothing in our Constitution or elsewhere that prevents people from getting their feelings hurt.
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