Time to move on...

[gphi2k]

I perhaps shouldn't have said I feel nothing when I see that footage. It was hyperbole. But I do feel that seeing it as much as I have has desensatized me somewhat. And I'm not the only one who feels that way. I cringe when I think about it more so than when I see it now.

I think the point I poorly made is simply that we can't go on seeing 24 hours of coverage anymore. It's important to be infomed. But it's also important to get on with your life and try not to give these people (and believe me, I use the term lightly) the air time they sought to take over. The image that keeps going on and on in my head is members of terrorist organizations sitting in front of their television screens celebrating their accomplishment, smiling at the network takeover they've been able to accomplish. That makes me sick to my stomach. The idea of letting them win by pre-empting our lives to watch what they accomplished, over and over...

[newbie]

Originally posted by cash78mere
I have to disagree.

I live 20 or so miles from NYC and an living and literally breathing this tragedy. We smelled and saw smoke for days after the disaster. There are 5 people missing from my small town alone and 40 missing parents from the school district I worked in last year. We are seeing, hearing and living this every minute of every day.

Honestly, I believe that most of us who are directly affected by this tragedy want to be kept updated. I don't care if my favorite shows aren't on right now. I know PEOPLE who are missing and probably dead. I know fathers, mothers and children who I will probably never see again. They are more important than anything.

This tragedy affected everything. It cannot be compared to Princess Diana's death or any other news story.

I want to hear and see everything I can until the last body is found. My life will go on, and it has been, but it won't recover for a long time.

People who aren't here just can't understand.

I completely agree with you and also Valkyrie. I don't care that all my fave TV shows, even baseball games till today, were cancelled - hell, i'm GLAD That they were. To have shows, and any form of entertainment going on while this tragedy is still taking place in the form of 5,000-still-missing-persons is just not right. I felt awkward when I tuned into The Simpsons at 11:00 last night. I just didn't feel in the mood to laugh or anything. I've loved the game of baseball ever since I can remember, and yet, baseball is NOTHING, absolutely nothing, compared to these WTC/Pentagon tragedies. This terrorist attack has really made me reevaluate what is truly important.

Cash78mere, and others who are directly affected, my heart and prayers go out to you. I know friends' loved ones who were in the WTC and also on Flight 93 - the one heading to San Francisco, which crashed into PA (thank God for those heroic passengers, who thwarted the hijackers' efforts, otherwise there would have been even MORE tragedy at the Capitol/White house/Camp David, etc.). Words can't even express how crushed I feel, and how my friends must feel...probably 100 times crushed. Everything's different when you actually know ppl who have died so suddenly and tragically.

I feel numb right now and am glad that the networks had enough respect for those who were tragically lost to postpone trivial TV shows. This has been the biggest event so far in my life and will probably be the most defining news event in my life. Hell, I'm even saving all the newspapers about the event just to be able to show my kids one day...to show them the magnitude of this event...how it affected so many...

THANK GOD for the NYPD and the FDNY....God bless them all, and others who helped in the effort.

[curiouss]

Alright, before this discussion turns into a debate and the debate turns into an arguement, we have to realize that people deal with things differently. Some people are comfortable with experiencing grief and emotion, others are escapists. There's not much of a right nor wrong way how to handle situations like this.

However, I still think that some of the coverage that are shown on the main networks are TOTALLY inappropiate for audiences, especially children.

[zetagirly]

I feel that considering this thread started not even A WEEK after the horrendous tragedy occurred, that it is completely insensitive. I understand the constant images are very very very hard to watch but this is the worst attack on American soil since 1812 and THOUSANDS of THOUSANDS of people are dead. And, not to mention the many many many more who in a few years will die of lung cancer, etc. from breathing in all the asbestos, fumes, etc.

I think some people who don't live around NYC or DC are being insensitive to us who do. Yes, I am all for escapism but who cares if soaps are being aired or not and I am disgusted that people are even making jokes.

I would think being in the mid west in the back of your mind you have a more sense of security that if these bastards bomb us etc, they are probably safe whereas the entire East Coast will be wiped out.

"Put this behind us" after a mere six days? This hasn't even begun to stop. There are plans for retaliation and we will attack and who knows when it will stop. Do you even know that September 22 is another day for possible hijackings/attacks? I think just because you are young and haven't been through a lot of the events us older people have gone through some of you need to realize that this war.

I personally turn on the Brady Bunch marathon if I want to escape the news am am happy to see the networks getting slowly back to normal but MY local news (I live in DC) is COMPLETELY different than your local news.

I think now that the shock is wearing off, people will feel WORSE for a few more days/weeks before they feel better. People are NOT feeling better yet and hearing people so insensitive makes me sick.

If this thread started two months after the attack that is one thing but it was started SIX days after and God forbid the Simpsons aren't on TV. Wow! I'm stunned.

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by cash78mere
I have to disagree.

I live 20 or so miles from NYC and an living and literally breathing this tragedy. We smelled and saw smoke for days after the disaster. There are 5 people missing from my small town alone and 40 missing parents from the school district I worked in last year. We are seeing, hearing and living this every minute of every day.

Honestly, I believe that most of us who are directly affected by this tragedy want to be kept updated. I don't care if my favorite shows aren't on right now. I know PEOPLE who are missing and probably dead. I know fathers, mothers and children who I will probably never see again. They are more important than anything.

This tragedy affected everything. It cannot be compared to Princess Diana's death or any other news story.

I want to hear and see everything I can until the last body is found. My life will go on, and it has been, but it won't recover for a long time.

People who aren't here just can't understand.

Although I'm not in NY, I understand your perspective, cash78mere. This is the biggest tragedy in our lifetimes to date, and it makes perfect sense for the news to be covering it. People react to tragedy in different ways. Some NEED constant updates and others feel like 24/7 news coverage is just making things worse. I understand that.

However, I'm one of the people who needs the updates. My television hasn't moved from CNN in days. I couldn't care less about my favorite sitcoms that are usually on in the evenings. They are trivial fluff as far as I'm concerned. Maybe it's because I know several people who have been personally touched by the tragedy, maybe it's because I'm just more emotional than others, maybe it's because I have 3 younger brothers who are eligible for the draft should it come down to that --- who knows???

All I DO know is that having CNN on while I'm in the house, or an AM news station on while I'm in the car, is an absolute necessity at this point. My life hasn't stopped, I'm still running errands, going to work, cleaning the house, paying bills, etc. --- but the news stays on no matter what. I'm glad it's there. If it wasn't, I would be constantly wondering how the rescue efforts are going, how the hunt for the bastards who took part in this abomination is progressing, and how America is preparing for the long battle against terrorism.

Carrie

[Dejajeva]

Okay, zetagirly. No, I am not stupid. Just because we see things in different perspectives doesn't mean I'm "f stupid". Furthermore, I don't really appreciate your horrible point of view on this entire thread. I wasn't suggesting that we discontinue to remember and grieve for those who lost their lives in last week's Tragedy. I WAS suggesting that there's only so many times I can watch a plane crash into a building, watch people jump out of it, and then watch it crumble. I can't deal with it anymore. I can't cry anymore and I can't physically stand it. I think your incredibly selfish, thinking that you (those in DC and NYC) are the only ones effected by it. Bull. This entire nation has been behind you guys 100 percent, sending you guys money and donating blood and goozooloes of other things. I don't even watch soaps! It was a illustration. I'm at school full time, work two full time jobs, have time to work on the show's we're working on, AND have time for the sorority. You tell me when I'm at home complaining that there's no soaps. . Don't call me f stupid when you don't even know me. This ISN'T a time to tear people apart. YOu of all people should know that.

Jess

[Dejajeva]

"It's really easy to sit in the mid west and have in the back of your mind that if these bastards bomb us etc, they are probably safe whereas the entire East Coast will be wiped out"


is that?????? You think any of us feel safe? You think any of us are sitting pretty thinking to ourselves, 'oh it's okay, they only bomb the east coast'. OMG! I for one, (and I believe that I'll have agreement on this subject) am incredibly f offended by that comment.

I'm also offended by another comment.

I mean, honestly, college kids need to wake up and realize we're going to war?

You think we're all stupid? You put yourelf so high and mighty it makes me sick. We KNOW we're going to war and we're prepared for it. It's not just DC and NYC handling this situation. It's the ENTIRE WORLD, zetagirly. SO stop being a to everybody.

[dzrose93]

Dejajeva,

I'm going to ask you to please refrain from the comments you made in your last 2 posts in this thread. I understand that zetagirly's comments upset you, but I will remind you that we are all upset from the events of 9/11. It does absolutely no good for you to lash out. Your last comments were completely inappropriate. As a moderator, I'm asking you to calm down. Otherwise, I'll request this thread closed.

Carrie

[zetagirly]

I am sorry that I am so upset and I apologize for my harsh comments.

However, you started the thread with the following... "Is anyone else ready to put this behind them? "

I felt that was incredibly insensitive because these attacks are going to be felt around the world FOR YEARS and me being 30 years old I am somewhat appalled at the lack of sensitivity I am hearing from teenagers and young adults.

I really feel that worrying about rush and whether or not a certain badge on Ebay will be sold to a non member is completely irrevelant and it angers me when I hear people from other parts of this country being insensitive.

I am truly sorry that I am so upset. I really am. I also am reading greekchat.com for many reasons. One because I am trying to get back into my normal routine and two to seek comfort from people feeling the same things I am feeling.

Anyway, I will keep my comments to myself from now on and probably won't visit this site any more because I really can not bare it.

But, I will agree with people that the images of the planes crashing into the WTC are too much and thankfully we won't see them anymore. And, I wish my local stations would stop breaking away from TV and reporting that they have no further developments. This country is so on edge that anytime the news comes on, I am bracing myself for more devastation than what we endured on September 11th.

I hope people will realize that I am simply beside myself and I apologize for lashing out and I respect peoples opinions, even if they differ from mine and I wish everyone only the best.

[ZetaAce]

Hi people,

I realize that we all have emotions running high because of the recent tragedy. Fussing with each other is not the way to express yourself. So let's all try to keep our tempers at a dull roar and be respectful of each other. If you think that parts of your previous posts were inappropriate, please do us all a favor and edit your post to reflect that. Anymore, uncalled for comments after my message will be edited and/or deleted. Let's show some unity during this trying time.

Thanks,
ZetaAce

[valkyrie]

Zetagirly, I sort of understand how you're feeling. I say "sort of" because, being in Chicago, I have not experienced first-hand the tragic events the way those in NY and DC have. Although I am horrified by the recent tragedy and fearful for our future as a nation (and world) I can only imagine what it's like to be near the WTC and pentagon -- every day when I go downtown, I look at the Sears Tower and try to imagine what it would be like to see a pile of smoking rubble in its place. I can't really do it. I'm still struggling with the idea that our country is going to be at war for many years, and that every day we as American citizens are at risk of being attacked or harmed in ways that we can't imagine.

I wonder if this is party an age thing, because, like you, I am 30. Maybe at our age we take these things more seriously. I'm not making excuses, but I know that when I was in college and the Gulf War was going on, I remember feeling a little scared, but mostly felt that I was tucked away safely in a dorm and it wasn't that real to me. This is unfortunate, but probably not uncommon among young people. I know that when I was younger, I found routine to be very helpful -- for instance, when my grandmother passed away when I was in high school, all I wanted was to go back to school and have things be "normal" again. Now, I realize that, at least for me, just "moving on" is not the right thing to do. Now, it is more important to me to truly be informed and to know exactly what is going on and even to, in a very removed sort of way, feel the pain of those directly impacted. It is also important for me to recognize what is truly important in life, and that things that seemed really important last week are actually insignificant.

Please don't be sorry for being upset. You SHOULD be upset, as should we all. I hope you won't stop posting, because I can tell you that I truly value what you have had to say over the past few days, and would miss you if you leave.

[curiouss]

Originally posted by zetagirly
I am sorry that I am so upset and I apologize for my harsh comments.

However, you started the thread with the following... "Is anyone else ready to put this behind them? "

I felt that was incredibly insensitive because these attacks are going to be felt around the world FOR YEARS and me being 30 years old I am somewhat appalled at the lack of sensitivity I am hearing from teenagers and young adults.

I really feel that worrying about rush and whether or not a certain badge on Ebay will be sold to a non member is completely irrevelant and it angers me when I hear people from other parts of this country being insensitive.

I am truly sorry that I am so upset. I really am. I also am reading greekchat.com for many reasons. One because I am trying to get back into my normal routine and two to seek comfort from people feeling the same things I am feeling.

Anyway, I will keep my comments to myself from now on and probably won't visit this site any more because I really can not bare it.

But, I will agree with people that the images of the planes crashing into the WTC are too much and thankfully we won't see them anymore. And, I wish my local stations would stop breaking away from TV and reporting that they have no further developments. This country is so on edge that anytime the news comes on, I am bracing myself for more devastation than what we endured on September 11th.

I hope people will realize that I am simply beside myself and I apologize for lashing out and I respect peoples opinions, even if they differ from mine and I wish everyone only the best.

Well, actually I wanted to put this behind me the day after it happened, I just about saw it all from the beginning. Maybe it's just me and a minority of people, we just don't like to dwell on negative and unpleasant things. I would do anything to distract myself, but I can't! Because, I am being reminded everywhere I go, from school to Greekchat to seeing flags everywhere. I just can't stomach all of this. If I lived in New York or DC I would get the devil out of there, or any big city.

And, on a entirely different note, this was NOT an attack, it was a RETALIATION from of nations who are sick of the US bullying them around.

Please respect people's different perspectives.

[justamom]

Each and every one of you have made legitimate comments. However, I am for all the coverage that I can get. If you really follow the story, you will realize that each day more information is released and the implications are growing faster than people can
comprehend. Bush is trying to get us used to the fact that in order to win (if that is even possible) we will pay with the lives of our service men and women. There most likely will be more civilians lost as terrorists continue to threaten our safety, our sense of freedom. We MUST be reminded that a very real danger exists each and every day. There are THOUSANDS of people who would see you dead merely because you are an American. Yes, go about your daily routine and yes, look ahead. (or else they really have won) However, it was that false sense of secutity that led us to this point. We are at war. It doesn't matter that a single shot hasn't been fired by us. There are "cells" all over this world. We have sleepers in our midst. We are at risk for biological attacks. Young men and women are being deployed at this very minute. If WE as AMERICANS lose our fury, and our indignation softens, what can we expect of the coalition we are trying to build? This was an attack on you and me and everyone who believes in FREEDOM! When you feel like you need a break, turn it off-rent a movie-turn to any multitude of viewing choices. Just remember at least you HAVE that freedom, and so many other "freedoms" as well. I pray God keeps you and yours safe. I thank God for the bravery of the men and women who serve our country in ANY capacity. Most of all, I pray for our future.

[cash78mere]

Zetagirly-

Please don't leave us! This site drives me crazy too sometimes, so now I just post when I feel a strong need to. Please continue to shower us with your opinions! They are definitely wanted!

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by curiouss


And, on a entirely different note, this was NOT an attack, it was a RETALIATION from of nations who are sick of the US bullying them around.

I hope that you really don't believe that comment you made. How could anyone possibly think that those brutal, immoral acts were not attacks? Over 5,000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS were MURDERED by savage animals who don't even deserve the label "human beings." If this was a retaliation by a group of people who feel wronged by America as you seem to believe, then it should have been directed to our military --- NOT INNOCENT PEOPLE. Please tell me what my sorority sister Alicia Titus - a flight attendant on United Airlines Flight 175 - EVER did to deserve what you call "retaliation?"