How Closed is closed material? - Page 2

john1082 · #16 08-11-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane Foley

A little trivia--There is actually only one piece of equipment that is secret with respect to it being in our ritual. How the items are used is secret; however, there is only one item that is actually secret in that it exists at all.

The bad news...I will not post the answer (for good reason).

Shane, perhaps someday we can chat. I'm relatively proficient when it comes to ritual stuff, but you've got me stumped.

Ottor 246 · #17 08-12-2008, 07:43 AM

Some brothers from my chapter had a pet fighting fish with the same "T" name.

And at our chapter, we were so secretive, that we didn't even say the word "Ritual" in public. If we said anything at all, we said "initiation." And if we wrote it, we used the symbol.

robswede · #18 08-12-2008, 09:07 AM

I think a Mastiff dog with the name B would be badass.... I think B is more badass than T

Shadowskream459 · #19 08-12-2008, 04:26 PM

I really like... we'll call it "F". B and T are good too though.

LXAAlum · #20 08-12-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowskream459

No not the bones, he means the Sheep. Duh.

Wait... oops.

Great...reveal the secret behind our name...way to go....

Now everyone knows it's not Lambda Chi Alpha.....but....

La a a a a ambda Chi Alpha.

Albert109 · #21 08-12-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EM1843

Once you get the pendant look at it closely. It has the name in it I believe. The officer name are actually based upon greek political officers and other greek words. While it may be closed, it is not entirely secret. More like hidden in plain view.

I've had them in my posession for little under a year now, so I've seen them all up close. I've also looked the names up online before now anyways. That their names are on the pendants is of little matter - and partly the point, no? My point was that herff jones uses their names in transliterated english.

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Originally Posted by Shadowskream459

The beauty of that though, is if you don't make a big deal out of it, naming a dog or other pet T. or something similar, no one will ever make a connection to it.

If you had a seeing-eye dog, you could name it somethign that begins with an E! This is exactly like throwing up handsigns - what is hidden in plain sight is the most fun...

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Originally Posted by GammaZeta

Do you really think our secret ritual is "secret"?
Between wives, girlfriends and girls that brothers just want to sleep with, our ritual is out there.
Think about the brothers, fathers and uncles that told their family members about the ritual.
Think of all the disgruntled or ex brothers running around blabbing about it.
If a non-brother wanted to put in a little effort, they could easily find out our ritual.

I put a lot of effort into trying to find even a smidgeon of info on the contents of our ritual before and after initiation, but to almost no avail (cough cough - yahoo group). With the exception of the coke heads you referenced in a later post, I do have quite a bit of faith in my other brothers in abiding in the oaths they took...

GammaZeta · #22 08-12-2008, 10:05 PM

Before my initiation, I was able to (but didn't listen as to not ruin the experience) find out key portions of our ritual.

Most brothers are good and uphold the oath they take.

However, it is that 1% (1% of 100,000 is 1,000) of bad brothers that are not trustworthy.

There are, at a minimum 1,000 brothers willing to divulge our secrets, and that is using the 1% rule.

It's not the guys that take it seriously. Like you said, it is the coke heads that use LXA as a drug den or a way to boost sales.

It's the guys that just don't care, want to drink beer, go through ritual, and if something bad happens, are willing to blab it all across campus.

robswede · #23 08-12-2008, 10:19 PM

Hey Now... our coke head alumni do not reveal secrets... cause they can't remember them!

Tom Earp · #24 08-13-2008, 12:48 PM

GammaZeta, your math is well taken and really does make sense to say the least.

But as Robswede said most probally forgot it anyway!

The Ritual is made up of many parts and one alone doesn't make a Ritual.
Knock-*-*-*!

Albert109 · #25 08-13-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp

GammaZeta, your math is well taken and really does make sense to say the least.

But as Robswede said most probally forgot it anyway!

The Ritual is made up of many parts and one alone doesn't make a Ritual.
Knock-*-*-*!

And to whom do crackheads talk? More crackheads... and besides, that kind of trash doesn't have credibility (or a short or long term memory for that matter)

JonoBN41 · #26 08-13-2008, 04:29 PM

Adam is right. I was trying to get some details on my chapter's early days from an older brother a couple years ago. He kept evading my questions and finally admitted he was stoned most of the time back then and didn't remember much. Ah yes, the good old '60s.

GammaZeta · #27 08-13-2008, 05:03 PM

Very good points!

Let me revise my statements: The crack heads WOULD reveal the secrets IF they remembered them!

Tom Earp · #28 08-14-2008, 01:16 PM

Thanks Shane, that would have never occured to me but I am at a loss from things done behind the scenes with Ritual.

But it does make sense!

AJL3 · #29 08-15-2008, 12:56 AM

I know the exact item that Shane is talking about, but like him I will not devuldge the answer. It's a good trivia question though.

I will say this, yes everyone can tell you what the ritual is, and I agree there are brothers out there that will reveal it. But, how many of those actually understand it.

One of the greatest thing about our ritual is that if you practice it, you will see it in everyday life. And for those of you who understand the ritual should understand what I'm talking about. And that is the true meaning of our ritual, something that no brother who tells before it's the appropriate time could understand.

Albert109 · #30 08-15-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AJL3

I know the exact item that Shane is talking about, but like him I will not devuldge the answer. It's a good trivia question though.

I will say this, yes everyone can tell you what the ritual is, and I agree there are brothers out there that will reveal it. But, how many of those actually understand it.

One of the greatest thing about our ritual is that if you practice it, you will see it in everyday life. And for those of you who understand the ritual should understand what I'm talking about. And that is the true meaning of our ritual, something that no brother who tells before it's the appropriate time could understand.

They even talk about it in the Phible: Grand High Pi rulings state that you're not "legally" a brother until the very end of ritual. However, an individual does not become a Brother by the mere act of being initiated; rather, the implementation of the ritual in his everyday life is the sign of becoming a brother in act, not just in name. And there are some of those in most chapters I'd assume... just check out post-initiation (definitely at ours)