islamic discussion (off shot of the condi discussion)

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Pike1483
Okay, I'll admit that I'm not an expert on the Koran (as proved by my earlier Surah blunder). I never said I was. I simply said I had studied it, which I have. Based on what I've learned from stuff, I can see why the terrorists hate us and think us infidels. And once again I'm not bashing the whole Muslim religion, I'm just simply stating my interpretation of it. If they're not fighting a "holy war" against us, then what are they doing? If anyone is an expert on the Koran, please explain this to me. I'm also not claiming that Christians have never persecuted anyone.
Mainly I was stating that Bush is not fighting a "holy war" against Islam as someone stated earlier. It seems to me that everyone thinks it's okay to bash Bush's religion, but it's never appropriate to even question somebody else's religion.

Have we been invaded? Have Muslims as a whole risen up against the US? One isolated terror attack, as awful as it was, does not a war make.

[AlphaSigOU]

'Bout time to split this thread off...

[GeekyPenguin]

Yes, we have proved yet another ignorant GCer wrong,and thus we must delete this thread.

BALEET! BALEET FOR JUSTICE!

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Yes, we have proved yet another ignorant GCer wrong,and thus we must delete this thread.

BALEET! BALEET FOR JUSTICE!

It has nothing to do with that and you know it.

It's all about posturing and your inflated egos. But we should let that stay right? I mean, i post something about blue states, and the socialist mod on this board has to delete it all.

KS 361

[_Opi_]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
All it has been has been the same back and forth crap about Islam that's already been hashed and re-hashed on here.
KS 361

To some posters, Islam is not just crap. And until people start involving the problems of this world on their ignorant and unfounded views on muslims and those who follow the Koran, it will continue to be hashed and rehashed...... which is continuing to be a trend on GC politics anyway.



Pike1483, I am still waiting for a good response and all you can give me is an "article" you read ....an obviously biased one at that. Disappointing.


AlphaSigOU, I whole heartedly agree with you. You can't post a verse without talking about its context.

Originally posted by _Opi_
To some posters, Islam is not just crap. And until people start involving the problems of this world on their ignorant and unfounded views on muslims and those who follow the Koran, it will continue to be hashed and rehashed...... which is continuing to be a trend on GC politics anyway.

settle down there ace, don't get all Jihad on me.

i didn't say, this Islam crap. What i said was crap about Islam. Meaning specifically the misconceptions held by many. I was really referring to how a thread on a completely different topic got steered into a new discussion because Islam seems to be the new 'hot' topic.

I for one don't care what God, Creator, Allah you worship. But it doesn't need to made central on every thread on this board.

I'm really starting to feel that everytime we see an "Islam is a religon of peace" some of y'all are trying to compensate for us seeing people brutally murdered in it's name.

KS 361

[_Opi_]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
settle down there ace, don't get all Jihad on me.

LOL

I for one don't care what God, Creator, Allah you worship. But it doesn't need to made central on every thread on this board.

actually...its not central to every thread I make...but if I see someone saying something ignorant about muslims or the Koran - like Pike1483 - I will address it since I am a proud muslim and not afraid to talk about it. Notice that I don't start topics about it, rather..others do (do a quick search).

I'm really starting to feel that everytime we see an "Islam is a religon of peace" some of y'all are trying to compensate for us seeing people brutally murdered in it's name.

Well if that's how you feel, then there is nothing I can do about that. Maybe you think that I am using the religion-card. Here is the thing though...why is it that on numerous occasions when there are terrorist attacks, we muslims have to "condemn" or explain Islam's true teachings? Hey I didn't do it....a delusional criminal did it...but the rest of 1 billion muslims gotta explain themselves...Don't some people get that we are targets too...there were muslim people beheaded, there were muslims on the WTC, etc etc and I'm sure in many other places....but hey...I'm just using the "religion-card".

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Because no Christians have ever fought Holy Wars based on false interpretation of the Bible.

Hold on a sec... aren't you forgetting the Crusades? We're just as guilty of knocking heads in the name of religion.

[aurora_borealis]

Originally posted by AlphaSigOU
Hold on a sec... aren't you forgetting the Crusades? We're just as guilty of knocking heads in the name of religion.

She was being sarcastic, or should I say, Sarkathstic.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Have we been invaded? Have Muslims as a whole risen up against the US? One isolated terror attack, as awful as it was, does not a war make.

One terror attack? Where did you get that?

Maybe if you count each individual attack once. Once for the barracks, one for the African bombings, one for the WTC part I, one for the USS cole, and on and on.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by AlphaSigOU
Hold on a sec... aren't you forgetting the Crusades? We're just as guilty of knocking heads in the name of religion.

But is this a conversation on all religion or just one and in the current time.

Again, people who are much more learned in Islam are preaching hate in the middle east with talk of dhimis, infidels, and jihad. Women who are raped are worthy of death and this goes on and on.

Are people just going to say their interpretation is wrong and theirs is right?

I'm not saying any interpretation is right or wrong but I am saying that clearly at this point in history Islam has become associated with terrorism and even promotes it quite often.

-Rudey

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
One isolated terror attack, as awful as it was, does not a war make.

It wasn't one attack. There have been more, and there is the publicly stated intention to continue to attack when possible.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

I just feel so sad about the kidnappings, beheadings, and executions. I don't know how anyone can justify that. This recent killing of Margaret Hassan, a CARE worker who dedicated her life to helping Iraqis, has left me feeling sick to my stomach and questioning what kind of people could do this. Where is their humanity, their decency, their compassion?

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I just feel so sad about the kidnappings, beheadings, and executions. I don't know how anyone can justify that. This recent killing of Margaret Hassan, a CARE worker who dedicated her life to helping Iraqis, has left me feeling sick to my stomach and questioning what kind of people could do this. Where is their humanity, their decency, their compassion?

Again by radicals... and roundly condemned by the Iraqi and Islamic communities. The problem is that many people are judging the community by the actions of radicals; the actions of radicals are not a reflection of the faith - which is why they are called radicals, fundamentalists, or militants.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
It has nothing to do with that and you know it.

It's all about posturing and your inflated egos. But we should let that stay right? I mean, i post something about blue states, and the socialist mod on this board has to delete it all.

KS 361

Actually it has everything do with that. Pike1483 doesn't know anything about Islam and is making outlandish claims.

Thanks for sweating me, though.