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12-15-2011, 05:28 PM
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UCF has one!
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12-15-2011, 05:35 PM
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also I know that a couple of UCF (univ. central fla) fraternities have gay members in straight fraternities and they are well accepted
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12-15-2011, 05:57 PM
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also I know that a couple of UCF (univ. central fla) fraternities have gay members in straight fraternities and they are well accepted
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I know what you're trying to say, but I don't think any of our GLOs are "straight fraternities" -- that is just the majority group.
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12-22-2011, 05:29 PM
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Hey man,
im a gay Phi Psi up in PA. Honestly i would just be upfront about it. If you get shutdown because of it, that organization obviously wasn't a good fit for you. I was lucky enough to have found the Phi Psis early in my college career and it never became a problem but i have heard of organizations where it could be. Just like the entire rushing process it all comes down to finding an organization thats a good fit for you and accepts you for who you are.
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12-22-2011, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dakotapennxi
Hey man,
im a gay Phi Psi up in PA. Honestly i would just be upfront about it. If you get shutdown because of it, that organization obviously wasn't a good fit for you. I was lucky enough to have found the Phi Psis early in my college career and it never became a problem but i have heard of organizations where it could be. Just like the entire rushing process it all comes down to finding an organization thats a good fit for you and accepts you for who you are.
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Your alma mater (and mine, and the other 12 in the PASSHE) have come a LONG way on this subject, but what you're doing is kinda like telling him to wear a Hines Ward jersey to a Ravens game in Baltimore. The culture (as in Greek life, the importance of Greek life, and in general) is very, very different there.
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01-01-2012, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Your alma mater (and mine, and the other 12 in the PASSHE) have come a LONG way on this subject, but what you're doing is kinda like telling him to wear a Hines Ward jersey to a Ravens game in Baltimore. The culture (as in Greek life, the importance of Greek life, and in general) is very, very different there.
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The gist of his message it, he's telling the guy to be true to his self. Regardless of where you are or which organizations or areas are alike or different, it sounds like sound advice.
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01-02-2012, 12:41 PM
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Noooo, he's telling the guy to say right away that he's gay. That may not be the best route to take everywhere.
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01-04-2012, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Your alma mater (and mine, and the other 12 in the PASSHE) have come a LONG way on this subject, but what you're doing is kinda like telling him to wear a Hines Ward jersey to a Ravens game in Baltimore. The culture (as in Greek life, the importance of Greek life, and in general) is very, very different there.
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Wearing my Ward jersey to a Ravens game in Baltimore is totally on my bucket list. But I like being combative.
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01-04-2012, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter
In many cases this is just not something that is advertised or even admitted to by many Fraternities. I would take caution in how I approached the subject as, when you get right down to it, it is no ones business but your own. Even though we like to believe we are the "enlightened", predjudices are evident in many, if not most, of the organizations.
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I have to agree with this. Coming from a huge SEC school, you have to realize that these organization have been around for a LONG time, and are usually looking for a specific person. I mean just look at totalfratmove.com, and almost everything you read is about "slampeices" and hooking up with girls without knowing them. I'm not saying to not rush (believe it or not, there are many closet gays in fraternitys), but I would not suggest mentioning your sexuality during rush. I know that many people say that you should find a fraternity that accepts you as you are, but just know that you will come across people who are prejudice and will cut you for it. Im not saying its fair, but its the way the greek system works. Greek system tends to work as a dictatorship, not a democracy...
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01-04-2012, 09:07 PM
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I have to agree with this. Coming from a huge SEC school, you have to realize that these organization have been around for a LONG time, and are usually looking for a specific person. I mean just look at totalfratmove.com, and almost everything you read is about "slampeices" and hooking up with girls without knowing them. I'm not saying to not rush (believe it or not, there are many closet gays in fraternitys), but I would not suggest mentioning your sexuality during rush. I know that many people say that you should find a fraternity that accepts you as you are, but just know that you will come across people who are prejudice and will cut you for it. Im not saying its fair, but its the way the greek system works. Greek system tends to work as a dictatorship, not a democracy...
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Uh... you're not Greek...
Why are you giving advice (fraternity advice, at that)?
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01-04-2012, 09:20 PM
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Uh... you're not Greek...
Why are you giving advice (fraternity advice, at that)?
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That doesnt mean that I havent dated any fraternity boys or that every guy in my family was a member of one... I'm just giving my opinion from personal experience.
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01-04-2012, 09:25 PM
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That doesnt mean that I havent dated any fraternity boys or that every guy in my family was a member of one... I'm just giving my opinion from personal experience.
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Your family and friends' affiliations don't matter -- YOU'RE not Greek, so you shouldn't be giving advice.
There are plenty of places to give your opinion on this board. Threads about what GLOs are looking for and how GLOs operate are not those places.
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01-04-2012, 10:11 PM
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That doesnt mean that I havent dated any fraternity boys or that every guy in my family was a member of one... I'm just giving my opinion from personal experience.
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What personal experience? If you'd dated doctors and every guy in your family was a doctor, you'd feel entitled to offer medical opinions too?
Bless your heart.
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I have to agree with this. Coming from a huge SEC school...
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The OP said he's transferring to UNC, Duke or Elon. One of these isn't huge and none of these are SEC schools. Any of these three schools are going to be different, sometimes very different, in various ways from your "huge SEC school," including in ways that are relevant to the OP's question.
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01-04-2012, 10:51 PM
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I'll say it now, I don't think it really matters. But that is just me. My chapter has one openly gay member, and it was pretty much known when he pledged (according to what he told me) that he was gay. He came out in HS, so whoever was rush chair at the time didn't mind.
I will say though that pledging might be different if you are gay, depending on how the "brothers" take it.
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01-15-2012, 10:50 PM
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What personal experience? If you'd dated doctors and every guy in your family was a doctor, you'd feel entitled to offer medical opinions too?
Bless your heart.
The OP said he's transferring to UNC, Duke or Elon. One of these isn't huge and none of these are SEC schools. Any of these three schools are going to be different, sometimes very different, in various ways from your "huge SEC school," including in ways that are relevant to the OP's question.
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I'd have to disagree with you on UNC. UNC is pretty decent greek wise with as much tradition as any SEC school. I would actually venture to say that UNC greek life is very similar to an SEC school. Now for Duke and Elon, no probably not the case. As for the OP's question...I've got no expertise on your situation. But man oh man, I'd really wish you'd think long and hard about wanting to join a fraternity. Pledgeship is hard enough when you're straight.
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