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09-12-2013, 10:55 PM
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Well, then, what do you do about the Baptist Student Union, the Catholic Newman Center, etc, etc????? the Catholics won't let anyone but Catholics take communion.
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Anyone can join the Newman Center. Taking communion isn't required for membership. I also strongly doubt that it gets land worth hundreds of thousands for $1/year.
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09-12-2013, 11:43 PM
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I have every confidence that Delta Delta Delta will, for a number of reasons, take this VERY seriously and address it.
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I agree, and can confidently state that they wil.
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09-12-2013, 11:49 PM
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I'd say that all NPC groups with chapters at Bama should do so.
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Personally, I would love to know why my own org didn't enthusiastically pursue a witty, articulate, intelligent, honor-laden, gorgeous PNM whose grandpa was a freaking TRUSTEE of the university. She should have had a full invite list.
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This. KD wasn't mentioned, but they should check this out. As I was not in the membership selection, I cannot say why we did not pursue her as a top candidate. However, if that involved her race then it is completely unacceptable and goes against our basic values and beliefs.
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09-13-2013, 12:17 AM
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Private memberships have the right to chose who they want at most schools (Tufts being one outside this rule for sororities), so a religiously based organization would also have the same rights. But you are not allowed to discriminate on race. If it can be proven, and in this case it appears it could be, then the school would be within their rights to intervene. My guess, however, is they won't. This problem seems to be very quickly resolving itself. Don't forget that the inter/national presidents of these sororities preside over quite a few black women, with the more northern sororities probably having more than the more southern ones. I would really love to see some of these women publicly shamed. But of course it won't BE shame. The women in their circles probably agree with them wholeheartedly. I'm sure it's bad enough for these hags that they are required to accept Yankees... but STILL, they wouldn't be invited into the chapter house to interfere ever again even if they're perfectly welcome at the alumnae meetings.
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09-13-2013, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Titchou
Well, then, what do you do about the Baptist Student Union, the Catholic Newman Center, etc, etc????? the Catholics won't let anyone but Catholics take communion. Are you doing to toss them off campus? What about Christian fraternities and sororities?
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Religious organizations get all sorts of discriminatory power that other groups don't get. It's comparing apples to oranges.
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09-13-2013, 01:00 AM
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Reading my mind, was wondering the same thing. If they did that would send a helluva message.
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Alumnae who do shiz like these alumnae did are just going to laugh at anything that comes out of their national HQ.
This is all starting to remind me of that 30 for 30 "Pony Excess" documentary about SMU's football program.
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09-13-2013, 01:02 AM
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I find it very hard to believe they will take a persons membership away simply because they are racist. What someone thinks personally should not affect their membership. If that were the case I guess all the Jewish sisters of most NPC should be kicked out for not believing in Jesus. Take away their power over the chapters should work so those ideas can't harm anyone.
Just had to interject sorry
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09-13-2013, 01:12 AM
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If that were the case I guess all the Jewish sisters of most NPC should be kicked out for not believing in Jesus.
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Are you high, Clairee?
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09-13-2013, 01:31 AM
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I find it very hard to believe they will take a persons membership away simply because they are racist.
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A group that doesn't expel racist members should give up the claim of being a values-based organization.
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09-13-2013, 01:40 AM
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Are you high, Clairee?
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Excuse my comparison. But they aren't gonna kick someone out for a racist. They'll just take away their power. A racist is only as strong as the power they are given.
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09-13-2013, 01:46 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us...date.html?_r=0
"Stephannie Bailey, the executive director of Alpha Gamma Delta, said in an e-mail that the organization was “actively investigating” the situation for violations of its antidiscrimination policy."
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09-13-2013, 01:46 AM
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Excuse my comparison. But they aren't gonna kick someone out for a racist. They'll just take away their power. A racist is only as strong as the power they are given.
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The only way they can take away their power is to close the chapter or to sanction the chapter for accepting donations from certain alumnae.
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09-13-2013, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jazing
I find it very hard to believe they will take a persons membership away simply because they are racist. What someone thinks personally should not affect their membership. If that were the case I guess all the Jewish sisters of most NPC should be kicked out for not believing in Jesus. Take away their power over the chapters should work so those ideas can't harm anyone.
Just had to interject sorry
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They wouldn't be thrown out for being racist. They would be thrown out for breaking their sorority rules. I can't speak for any other sorority, but I would fathom a guess that alums are 1-not allowed to inject their personal opinions about girls beyond that stated on a rec and 2-CERTAINLY not allowed to vote or interfere with voting.
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09-13-2013, 01:51 AM
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Maybe not, if it's just about generic "values". But OPA has an explicit policy against discrimination. If it were difficult to prove, we would be reluctant to take severe action. In a case this blatant, however, we wouldn't hesitate to strip an alumna of her membership for violating a national policy.
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09-13-2013, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jazing
I find it very hard to believe they will take a persons membership away simply because they are racist. What someone thinks personally should not affect their membership. If that were the case I guess all the Jewish sisters of most NPC should be kicked out for not believing in Jesus. Take away their power over the chapters should work so those ideas can't harm anyone.
Just had to interject sorry
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For FUCK's sake, QUIT posting about what sororities do or may do. You don't know anything about anything!
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