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Old 12-12-2006, 02:32 PM
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History has shown that the longer a person waits in the Senate the less likely they are to become President. He should strike while the iron is hot. This climate and opportunity will not present itself again. For him or any other like him for quite a while.

I ask the question again....Barak Omaba....could he be the next President of the US?

He has closed a gap on Sen. Clinton in record time and shows no signs of slowing....

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IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:54 PM
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IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.
You're a smart lady.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:55 AM
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Is black America ready to embrace Obama?

POSTED: 12:46 a.m. EST, March 1, 2007

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In recent months, ABC News-Washington Post polls showed Sen. Hillary Clinton running 40 points higher than Sen. Barack Obama among blacks voters asked to name their preference in the Democratic primary.

But in Wednesday editions, the Washington Post reported a poll that has Obama leading Clinton by 11 points among black voters -- 44 percent to 33 percent. Obama is the Senate's only black member and has been campaigning across the country for the last couple of months. Clinton is his chief rival for the 2008 presidential nomination

That change represents a stunning 24-point swing, but does it mean the black community has embraced the Illinois Democrat as its candidate?

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Old 03-01-2007, 12:16 PM
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IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.
In other words, Rudy. (I don't think McCain is Moderate enough to win)
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:18 PM
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Hillary Clinton "will" win the democratic nomination. Obama and Edwards will be neck and neck. I think Obama may more likely be at the top of Hillary's list of VP running mates.

For the republican nomination Rudy Guliani is to liberal (pro-choice, increased gun regulation, pro-civil unions) to win the republican nomination. Mitt Romney has no name recognition. I believe McCain will win the republican nomination.

In 2008, it will be Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain.
McCain is struggling. He may ramp it up as questions about Rudy arise. Mitt Romney doesn't have much name recognition. He's polling at about 10% to Rudy in the mid 30's, but there is a year to go before primaries start. By this summer I fully expect Romney to be neck and neck with the other 2. He's the best speaker, has a lot of party support, and can bring in the cash.

Hillary likely will win the nomination. Edwards would be a better choice if someone really got a hold of him and taught him how to win elections. Obama may end up on the ticket, but I don't think it matters. Without a major gaff by whoever the GOP candidate is, Hillary won't win.
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:47 PM
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IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.
WRONG. Nobody is going to hang their hat on McClain (too wishy washy and he's starting to sound ALOT like Bush). Guilani isn't going to win and there isn't a Republican that America trust. The Iraq War is going to leave a nasty taste in our mouths for a long time.

If anything folks will go with John Edwards. But, he's a LONG shot at the moment.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:12 PM
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So...anyone wanna reopen this thread?

The tides are certainly changing....

These are th latest numbers.......thoughts?

OH HOW THE TIDES ARE TURNING!!! HOT OFF THE PRESSES THE NEW POLL #s



THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats and Republicans in New Hampshire



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THE NUMBERS - DEMOCRATS

Barack Obama, 32 percent

Hillary Rodham Clinton, 31 percent

John Edwards, 18 percent

Bill Richardson, 8 percent

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THE NUMBERS - REPUBLICANS

Mitt Romney, 31 percent

Rudy Giuliani, 18 percent

John McCain, 17 percent

Mike Huckabee, 9 percent

Ron Paul, 7 percent


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Old 12-14-2007, 02:16 PM
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The tides are certainly changing....

These are th latest numbers.......thoughts?

OH HOW THE TIDES ARE TURNING!!! HOT OFF THE PRESSES THE NEW POLL #s



THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats and Republicans in New Hampshire



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THE NUMBERS - DEMOCRATS

Barack Obama, 32 percent

Hillary Rodham Clinton, 31 percent

John Edwards, 18 percent

Bill Richardson, 8 percent

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THE NUMBERS - REPUBLICANS

Mitt Romney, 31 percent

Rudy Giuliani, 18 percent

John McCain, 17 percent

Mike Huckabee, 9 percent

Ron Paul, 7 percent


LoJ
Where are these #s from? I'm assuming it is a national poll...
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:18 PM
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Where are these #s from? I'm assuming it is a national poll...
RIF.

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THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats and Republicans in New Hampshire
Although I'd still like to know the source.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:36 PM
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I saw a political cartoon last night that showed Obama in Oprah's shadow. While I'm not voting for Obama (or Clinton), the comments by the readers were mostly ignorant.

People want to assume Oprah is backing Obama because he is black and yada yada yada. I don't see white celebrities being criticized for backing other candidates because they are white. There goes that "invisibility of whiteness," again.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:37 PM
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RIF.



Although I'd still like to know the source.
And even more so, the margin of error
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:02 PM
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source and margin of error....

The telephone poll for the Concord Monitor was of 400 likely Republican primary voters and 400 likely Democratic voters. Maryland-based Research 2000 conducted the poll Dec. 10-12. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.


Now that we have established that point. What does this mean? Does that mean that the naysayers were wrong to assume that because he was so "young" and black that he could never be real contender in the race for the country's highest office?

It has been insinuated that if the election was help today a democrat would win over a republican in the race for president. Now, with that said, does that mean Barack has a legitimate shot at the Presidency?
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:05 PM
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I think someone saying that they would vote for him on the phone, and that person ACTUALLY putting his name on the ballot are two different things. I still don't think he's going to make it.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:07 PM
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Although I'd still like to know the source.
My brother was head of staging for Wicked.....great show....Shoshana Bean is Unbelievable...as Elpaba...and as a singer and performer in general...

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Old 12-14-2007, 03:08 PM
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My brother was head of staging for Wicked.....great show....Shoshana Bean is Unbelievable...as Elpaba...and as a singer and performer in general...

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I've got my tickets for April's performance. I've had them since August. I saw the show in ATL and fell in love with it.
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