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02-14-2007, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by neosoul
I wonder what his plans for US national health care are?
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Have lots of babies and store up food for the end of the world? I bet garments help prevent skin cancer, at least.
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02-14-2007, 12:18 AM
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The term "flip flopper" is so overblown. What ever happened to "inconsistant" or any other term used to describe politicians in general?
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College Republicans that threw shoes at John Kerry.
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02-14-2007, 12:36 AM
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College Republicans that threw shoes at John Kerry.
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Well I assume that came after Bush used the term. But it's soooo over. Move on. No politician is consistant.
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02-14-2007, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by valkyrie
Have lots of babies and store up food for the end of the world? I bet garments help prevent skin cancer, at least.
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You should really read up on the Mass universal health care system - while Mormon jokes are universally hilarious, you might be surprised by how comprehensive the care is.
There are severe doubts if anything similar is feasible nationwide (I seriously doubt it) but he was willing to enact universal health care if it were financially viable. You can't knock his financial/business/budgetary acumen.
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02-14-2007, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
Well I assume that came after Bush used the term. But it's soooo over. Move on. No politician is consistant.
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I'll move on when I want to, Bubbles.
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02-14-2007, 01:13 AM
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Well, I think it worked against Kerry because he would say two different things within like 6 months of each statement. Romney is more like every other politician who picks his battles depending on who the voters are.
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02-14-2007, 01:22 AM
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I'll move on when I want to, Bubbles.
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Lol, I didn't mean you. I meant the media, the world in general.
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02-14-2007, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
But, did they not make the same Comment about Kennedy and being a Catholic(Roman, that is)?
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They did, but for somewhat different reasons. The main concern among many was that a Catholic president would take direction on how to govern the country from the Vatican. While there may be some similar concern among some about a Mormon and Salt Lake City, I think the larger concern is the view regarding Mormons among many evangelicals.
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And I'm sure his religion will be more of an issue later as the field thickens.
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He's a mormon. Most polling indicates the biggest problem will be with evangelicals.
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One of my best friends is a Southern Baptist. He follows politics closely, and he tends toward Republicans, at least in national elections -- he typically wants a Republican appointing the federal judiciary, for example. When he and I were discussing a poll showing that the majority of those polled said they were not ready for a Mormon president (only the prospect of a gay president did worse in the poll), he said, "Well sure. Mitt Romney's apparent intelligence notwithstanding, they're all crazy."
I imagine that he is not alone in that assesment.
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02-14-2007, 11:42 AM
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I really hope Mitt Romney is the nominee, if just to see the Hollywood reaction...I'm sure somebody will go "No, I'm a little uncomfortable with a Mormon as President...ask my friends, Tom and Katie."
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02-14-2007, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
I really hope Mitt Romney is the nominee, if just to see the Hollywood reaction...I'm sure somebody will go "No, I'm a little uncomfortable with a Mormon as President...ask my friends, Tom and Katie."
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Ahahahahahaha. You win Best Post of the Day. I'm gunning for McCain just because he's moderate enough for me to like and possibly consider voting for, though unfortunately, he's creeping up there in age. Yes, I will be able to vote next year!
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02-14-2007, 12:49 PM
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I really hope Mitt Romney is the nominee, if just to see the Hollywood reaction...I'm sure somebody will go "No, I'm a little uncomfortable with a Mormon as President...ask my friends, Tom and Katie."
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LOL. Classic.
Of course, maybe Aaron Eckhart, Jon Heder, Rick Schroder and Paul Walker will stand up for Mitt.
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02-14-2007, 05:45 PM
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I'm not sure what the difference is between a "flip-flopper" and someone who is able to look at new facts and change their opinion based on them. I'd rather have someone who does that than someone who gets an idea and goes it with it full force, refusing to admit if he is wrong no matter how many new facts he is given. I think it makes sense that someone's perspective may change with maturity, new knowledge, or experience. I know my opinions have changed over the years and can still be changed if someone presents facts that are logical to me.
ETA: I'm also ok with a "flip-flopper" who is compromising because they can't get to their full goal immediately, but will accept a step in the right direction.
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02-14-2007, 06:44 PM
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I think it can be good to make revisions and change your mind, it can also be good to stand strong in a position when the tide turns against it. Tough jobs require people who can withstand waves of pressure from others.
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02-14-2007, 07:38 PM
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Actually I have no reason to not vote on a person who is running for President if that person is a female, black or of a religious denomination!
My only problem is whether they get in to the Highest Governing Posiotion in the world is if they will do a good job!
When one gets voted into the White House and sits in the Oval Office, there is a mantel that they must wear and make decissions for Millions of people!
Hell, Sam Brownback from Kansas is going to run and I would never vote for Him!
Kennedy did not cow tow to the Vatican and I would hope that Romeny wouled not do the same to Salt Lake!
The USA is much bigger and more important for the world.
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02-15-2007, 10:25 AM
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I'm not sure what the difference is between a "flip-flopper" and someone who is able to look at new facts and change their opinion based on them.
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The difference is political expediency vs. honest change of heart or reconsideration.
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