University of Arizona recruitment

[AZTheta]

To the OP:

1) It is HOT and may also rain, and yes, you will see PNMs in shorts, flip flops, tshirts, tanks, etc. during the first round. IMO if the shorts outfit is cute and well put together (and not a pair of cutoffs and a very revealing tank with bra straps showing) that is fine. You can't go wrong with a cute sundress or skirt and it will make a better impression.

2) Sleeveless shirts: fine, as long as you are not falling out in the front. Remember, you want to be remembered for your personality and other strengths, not as "that girl with the cleavage". Seriously.

3) Recruitment is VERY competitive. in August 2009 1200 PNMs signed up and close to that number went through the first set of parties. Be prepared for heavy cuts if you do not have a stellar GPA, recommendations, and a strong resume. The U of A uses RFM and the first round cuts can be a shock to many unprepared PNMs. Work on your conversation skills.

4) I advise against "speed rushing". You need to be fully present for each party you are invited to. Yes, parties go until the times stated. I have not heard of PNMs "speed rushing" at UofA; please check with your Recruitment Counselor or the Greek Life Office.

5) KSUViolet06 has provided excellent links on recruitment. Read those. And ask the Greek Life Office how recruitment groups are organized. That office is your best source of information for the University of Arizona.

Good luck to you and I hope everything will work out well for you.

[bear_down]

Originally Posted by olivia2424

well maybe I will just have to skip a party. I will still get to see 10 sororities. it really sucks and I wish I could reschedule but I can't. I work for my Dad, so no one can "cover" for me. and I asked him if I could skip work and he said no. and he pays for my school as well as if I am in a sorority. so I literally have no choice.

I don't mean for this to be mean sounding, but I think you need to completely re-evaluate whether or not greeklife is for you. There are a lot of mandatory meetings and activities especially when you are a new member plus lots of fun things you just won't want to miss. If your dad isn't willing or able to give up an hour or two of your time for rush, things are going to get pretty stressful pretty fast if you end up in a sorority. You need to talk to him now about what all of it will mean for the next four years.

I haven't heard of speed rushing either. Missing a party on your first days would not be a good thing at all either.

I would wear a skirt or cute casual dress, not the shorts. You will be really unhappy in white shorts if it rains!

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by bear_down

I don't mean for this to be mean sounding, but I think you need to completely re-evaluate whether or not greeklife is for you. There are a lot of mandatory meetings and activities especially when you are a new member plus lots of fun things you just won't want to miss. If your dad isn't willing or able to give up an hour or two of your time for rush, things are going to get pretty stressful pretty fast if you end up in a sorority. You need to talk to him now about what all of it will mean for the next four years.

I haven't heard of speed rushing either. Missing a party on your first days would not be a good thing at all either.

I would wear a skirt or cute casual dress, not the shorts. You will be really unhappy in white shorts if it rains!

I disagree. Sorority women work too. Facing the possibility of missing one party of 10, or better, splitting a party so time is spent with both chapters, is not a "Greek life is not for you" sign.

However you do need to talk to your dad. Even if there's a reason why he can't give you time that night, you need to tell him that you will have chapter meetings and other required events, and you will have to be present for every hour of rush too. (Plus workshops ahead of time and meetings after.)

[bear_down]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I disagree. Sorority women work too. Facing the possibility of missing one party of 10, or better, splitting a party so time is spent with both chapters, is not a "Greek life is not for you" sign.

However you do need to talk to your dad. Even if there's a reason why he can't give you time that night, you need to tell him that you will have chapter meetings and other required events, and you will have to be present for every hour of rush too. (Plus workshops ahead of time and meetings after.)

Sorry but you're not at all familiar with the way things work at my school. This is a big deal.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by bear_down

Sorry but you're not at all familiar with the way things work at my school. This is a big deal.

What is? Missing a party? No I get that. But it doesn't mean re-evaluating whether Greek Life is "right for her."

I'd be surprised if U of AZ is the only school where Greek women don't have to balance work, sorority and academics.

ETA: It's always more useful if you explain what the "big deal" is when you assume someone's not getting it.

[bear_down]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

What is? Missing a party? No I get that. But it doesn't mean re-evaluating whether Greek Life is "right for her."

I'd be surprised if U of AZ is the only school where Greek women don't have to balance work, sorority and academics.

ETA: It's always more useful if you explain what the "big deal" is when you assume someone's not getting it.

All of it's a big deal you condescending toad. Missing a party will definitely get her released from that chapter and very well may get her released from recruitment completely.

The even bigger deal is that dad is already threatening her financially. The recruitment schedule has been available for months. Recruitment is still a couple weeks away but he's not willing to make any acommodations for her. Work happens but to gave this kind of drama before you're even a member I'd something that she really needs to consider and talk to her dad about. Being a sister is a big responsibility and they both need to know about it since he's paying her way AND her boss.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by bear_down

All of it's a big deal you condescending toad.

Aw you're cute.

Missing a party will definitely get her released from that chapter and very well may get her released from recruitment completely.

Hence why I said "I get that." It sounds like she's gotten that advice and knows who to talk to about it.

The even bigger deal is that dad is already threatening her financially.

Thus far he's only said "you can't be off work that night." We don't know if there's a reason why he can't spare her that one night or not. Or if this is a pattern of financial manipulation or not.

The recruitment schedule has been available for months. Recruitment is still a couple weeks away but he's not willing to make any acommodations for her.

Hence why I, among others, have recommended she talk to her dad about it and make sure he's aware of the time commitment. Even if there's no way she can get out of work this one night.

Work happens but to gave this kind of drama before you're even a member I'd something that she really needs to consider and talk to her dad about.

She should talk to her dad, but this isn't actually "drama." Not as of yet. It sounds like you're projecting other experiences into the things that this individual PNM has actually said.

Being a sister is a big responsibility and they both need to know about it since he's paying her way AND her boss.

Agree completely.

[bear_down]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Aw you're cute.
Hence why I said "I get that." It sounds like she's gotten that advice and knows who to talk to about it.
Thus far he's only said "you can't be off work that night." We don't know if there's a reason why he can't spare her that one night or not. Or if this is a pattern of financial manipulation or not.
Hence why I, among others, have recommended she talk to her dad about it and make sure he's aware of the time commitment. Even if there's no way she can get out of work this one night.
She should talk to her dad, but this isn't actually "drama." Not as of yet. It sounds like you're projecting other experiences into the things that this individual PNM has actually said.
Agree completely.

Ribit ribit.

I'm just stating how things are today at my school. Not how they were 150 million years ago at some commuter school with no greeklife to speak of.

[HDL66]

When I was in school '150 million years ago," a standard essay question always started out "Compare and contrast." Let's compare and contrast these posts.

Originally Posted by bear_down

Sorry but you're not at all familiar with the way things work at my school. This is a big deal.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

What is? Missing a party? No I get that. But it doesn't mean re-evaluating whether Greek Life is "right for her."

I'd be surprised if U of AZ is the only school where Greek women don't have to balance work, sorority and academics.

ETA: It's always more useful if you explain what the "big deal" is when you assume someone's not getting it.

This would be considered respectful discourse.

Originally Posted by bear_down

All of it's a big deal you condescending toad. .

Originally Posted by bear_down

Ribit ribit.

I'm just stating how things are today at my school. Not how they were 150 million years ago at some commuter school with no greeklife to speak of.

This would be considered an arrogant, disrepectful and insolent respsonse coming from a brat.

//Putting away red pen.

[olivia2424]

Sorry I didn't mean to start any fights. But to answer your questions, my dad is in the catering business and I was supposed to help clean up a wedding afterwards. It doesn't sound like that big of a deal, and I guess my dad just is big on responsibility and obligation. I am going to try to talk to him again and see what I can do, but your generalization about my dad isn't correct. He doesn't usually do this, only when I have an obligation to do something. So he understands that when I'm in a sorority that is a commitment I have made and he is willing to support that financially 100%. It does concern me about how competitive you have made recruitment out to be at UofA (and I'm sure you're right) so I am going to try to figure things out and not miss anything. Because I KNOW greek life is for me, I've thought about it for a long time and know it's at least worth trying. (Especially because I already registered, why would I waste the money and potentially miss out on an amazing opportunity to become a part of a new family???)

[olivia2424]

also, thanks everyone for taking the time to give me great advice on recruitment. i will certainly follow it.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by bear_down

Ribit ribit.

I'm just stating how things are today at my school. Not how they were 150 million years ago at some commuter school with no greeklife to speak of.

Who Drole, that must make you the world's oldest woman. And you can't truly be in a sorority since you went to a school with no greek life.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Who Drole, that must make you the world's oldest woman. And you can't truly be in a sorority since you went to a school with no greek life.

I am the Ur-Greek. The true Greek from which all Greeks descended.

Apparently I also speak frog or something. I have no idea why I got ribit [sic] as a response.

Back in MY day... 8 years ago... we were LUCKY if we learned to speak amphibian. And you mammals were Sooooooooo overrated.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by olivia2424

Sorry I didn't mean to start any fights. But to answer your questions, my dad is in the catering business and I was supposed to help clean up a wedding afterwards. It doesn't sound like that big of a deal, and I guess my dad just is big on responsibility and obligation. I am going to try to talk to him again and see what I can do, but your generalization about my dad isn't correct. He doesn't usually do this, only when I have an obligation to do something. So he understands that when I'm in a sorority that is a commitment I have made and he is willing to support that financially 100%. It does concern me about how competitive you have made recruitment out to be at UofA (and I'm sure you're right) so I am going to try to figure things out and not miss anything. Because I KNOW greek life is for me, I've thought about it for a long time and know it's at least worth trying. (Especially because I already registered, why would I waste the money and potentially miss out on an amazing opportunity to become a part of a new family???)

Definitely try to figure out a way not to miss parties with the "speed party" thing as a last resort. Maybe volunteer for some extra work in advance to make it up to your dad and tell him you would not have asked to break a commitment unless you thought you had to.

Good luck and do let us know how everything turns out!

ETA: You didn't start any fights, that's just how message boards work at times. Tangents happen all over.

[olivia2424]

Okay! I'll do a rush story as soon as rush starts