How do u feel about gays and lesbians joining a greek letter organization? - Page 2

KSigkid · #16 06-15-2005, 10:25 AM

I would hold a gay rushee to the same standard that I would hold any other rushee. If I thought he fit well with Kappa Sig, I would welcome him, and if not, he wouldn't get a bid. My opinion wouldn't be based on sexuality.

That's my personal opinion, as I'm sure there are Kappa Sigs out there who think differently.

The Truth · #17 06-15-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by starang21
you know me, mom...i don't hold my tounge

strang21,

Hey what's up with your siggy? It has piqued my interest.

Back to the scheduled program........................

starang21 · #18 06-15-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth
strang21,

Hey what's up with your siggy? It has piqued my interest.

Back to the scheduled program........................

lol, it's famous quotes from our esteemed leader.

Visionary22 · #19 06-15-2005, 06:07 PM

I am going to be honest. I prefer that our members be heterosexual but if not, it does not have any bearing on my love and respect for the person as a soror. What's most important is are they working for Delta.

Soror Ladygreek, you are so right about the DL.

PrettyZeta4 · #20 06-16-2005, 03:45 PM

honestly i would not vote for someone that was openly gay....now if i found out later that one of my sorors, ls's, lb's, frat was gay i would not look at them any differently or treat them differently.....but i would not have voted for them. i'm not homophobic, to each it's own, but i feel that there are many gay organizations available so why join Zeta

and these are just my thoughts and opinions......

TheEpitome1920 · #21 06-16-2005, 03:49 PM

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but i feel that there are many gay organizations available so why join Zeta

and these are just my thoughts and opinions......

I respect your opinion, but are you saying that if you are gay you should only join organizations with other gay people??

PrettyZeta4 · #22 06-16-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
I respect your opinion, but are you saying that if you are gay you should only join organizations with other gay people??

i'm not saying you should "only" join organizations with other gay people. (and in my next comment i'm only speaking of openly gay individuals) but why join an organization and then get upset or have your feelings hurt when everyone doesn't embrace you or accept your choice of lifestyle when you can join an organization with common views. and when i say openly gay, i'm speaking of individuals that wear their sexual prefence on their arm. i'm hetrosexual but i don't shout it from the mountain tops.

and in my comments and opinions, i do not mean to offend or upset anyone....these are just my personal views

TheEpitome1920 · #23 06-16-2005, 05:12 PM

Hmmm...

I think there is a misconception that hetreosexuals don't make their sexuality known. It's a form of privilege, in my opinion. We live in a society where being hetrosexual is the norm and majority so we don't have to shout from the rooftops that we are hetrosexual.

RACooper · #24 06-16-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Hmmm...

I think there is a misconception that hetreosexuals don't make their sexuality known. It's a form of privilege, in my opinion. We live in a society where being hetrosexual is the norm and majority so we don't have to shout from the rooftops that we are hetrosexual.

Too true... or as one Brother put it - Everone just assumes that anyone they meet is hetreo unless said person does, says or acts in a way to question thier sexual oreintation.

As for a gay man joining - it's a complicated issue; simplistically yes a gay man can and should join if they meet the ideals and expectations of the chapter/org.... and now the complicated point: if they are joining as a stunt, or try an pick up (within the chapter), or to purposefully "rock the boat" then i'd say no - because while none of the above are technically against the policies or ideals of LCA they are against the spirit in my opinion. I all boils down again to the basic concept of I tend to judge a person on who they are not what they are...

Senusret I · #25 06-16-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Hmmm...

I think there is a misconception that hetreosexuals don't make their sexuality known. It's a form of privilege, in my opinion. We live in a society where being hetrosexual is the norm and majority so we don't have to shout from the rooftops that we are hetrosexual.

Straight privilege.....brilliant.

Epitome, I love you.

starang21 · #26 06-16-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by PrettyZeta4
i'm not saying you should "only" join organizations with other gay people. (and in my next comment i'm only speaking of openly gay individuals) but why join an organization and then get upset or have your feelings hurt when everyone doesn't embrace you or accept your choice of lifestyle when you can join an organization with common views. and when i say openly gay, i'm speaking of individuals that wear their sexual prefence on their arm. i'm hetrosexual but i don't shout it from the mountain tops.

and in my comments and opinions, i do not mean to offend or upset anyone....these are just my personal views

co sign, they know the deal when they join. they know they practice something that the majority of the members do not agree with. if they decide to pursue membership then they also know the risks doing such. ignorant as it may be.....it's the way it is. whether they like it or not.

TheEpitome1920 · #27 06-16-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
Straight privilege.....brilliant.

Epitome, I love you.

I love you too Senusret!

TheEpitome1920 · #28 06-16-2005, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
co sign, they know the deal when they join. they know they practice something that the majority of the members do not agree with. if they decide to pursue membership then they also know the risks doing such. ignorant as it may be.....it's the way it is. whether they like it or not.

Does your organization have a a disclaimer statement for homosexual brothers?? Join at your own risk?

I guess its probably a lot different for fraternities because of their homophobic tendencies.

starang21 · #29 06-16-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Does your organization have a a disclaimer statement for homosexual brothers?? Join at your own risk?

I guess its probably a lot different for fraternities because of their homophobic tendencies.

no, it's not something mandated by the national organization...but the members themselves have their own feelings on the matter and chances are that the majority of the members are don't agree with nor condone this type of lifestyle. as i've said before, humans are hypocrites....we turn a blind eye to somethings and not to others.

TheEpitome1920 · #30 06-16-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by RACooper
Too true... or as one Brother put it - Everone just assumes that anyone they meet is hetreo unless said person does, says or acts in a way to question thier sexual oreintation.

As for a gay man joining - it's a complicated issue; simplistically yes a gay man can and should join if they meet the ideals and expectations of the chapter/org.... and now the complicated point: if they are joining as a stunt, or try an pick up (within the chapter), or to purposefully "rock the boat" then i'd say no - because while none of the above are technically against the policies or ideals of LCA they are against the spirit in my opinion. I all boils down again to the basic concept of I tend to judge a person on who they are not what they are...

I agree but can you seperate someone's sexuality from their person? Meaning, while I wouldn't judge someone solely on their sexuality I wouldn't try to ignore it either.