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Old 08-24-2006, 07:03 PM
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So I should embrace ghetto culture? What a great idea. Lets promote that to all of our kids, sounds brilliant.
intolerance
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I didn't ask you to embrace it. Yet u lable the behaviors and culture and sunglasses of black ppl as Ghetto. That is prejudice or just YOU!

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Now where did I say that? I said I didn't agree with homosexuality. What they believe and how they act CONFLICTS with what I believe in. Yeah, thats homophobic...
"I don't agree with homosexuality and have trouble keeping my opinions to myself." Which in short means you would constantly say offensive things and probably use derogatory terms to describe them and "say things" like you say online.

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Thats ok, continue to call names, its obvious you have no substantive points to make.
I don't remember calling you names. I think my points have been very well made. You just choose to overlook them in your narrow-mindedness.
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:08 PM
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Name calling...like calling people racists and homophobes. Notice I didnt say I hated black clothing or black slang, I said urban, because its not just black people. But in your view, I guess that makes me racist...

I said I don't agree with homosexuality, which I don't, and in an effort not to offend them, I generally don't hang out with gay people. Its not like I'd be slandering them and using gay slurs, but I doubt they'd wanna hear about my opinions on homosexuality. In addition, I dislike a lot of gay culture.

I appears you'll believe whatever you want, regardless of reality. Good luck with that.
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:34 PM
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Name calling...like calling people racists and homophobes. Notice I didnt say I hated black clothing or black slang, I said urban, because its not just black people. But in your view, I guess that makes me racist...

I said I don't agree with homosexuality, which I don't, and in an effort not to offend them, I generally don't hang out with gay people. Its not like I'd be slandering them and using gay slurs, but I doubt they'd wanna hear about my opinions on homosexuality. In addition, I dislike a lot of gay culture.

I appears you'll believe whatever you want, regardless of reality. Good luck with that.
None of this is true.
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Old 08-24-2006, 07:40 PM
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Its all true.
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:11 PM
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This sounds like something that would come out of a gay hairdresser.

Frat on bro.
You disgust me. Could you possibly make one post without using any offensive terms? Idiot.
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Old 08-24-2006, 08:28 PM
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Now I understand.
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Old 08-24-2006, 09:23 PM
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what about his comment is racist? you are an idiot. he said he wanted his bar to look classy and respectable. just because he said "thuggish" doesn't mean he was referring to black people. I am sure he wouldn't want white trash with wife beaters and ripped up jorts in his establishment either.

Oh, I'm the idiot....ummm yeah. Anyway, you already called black culture "ghetto" and in previous threads you called black people "thugs". Don't play like you don't bump "Honkey Tonk Badonkey-Donk" in your mudded out Chevy truck Face it, you're just mad because your idea of a "lily white" world is all in your twisted mind.
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:30 PM
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Oh, I'm the idiot....ummm yeah. Anyway, you already called black culture "ghetto" and in previous threads you called black people "thugs". Don't play like you don't bump "Honkey Tonk Badonkey-Donk" in your mudded out Chevy truck Face it, you're just mad because your idea of a "lily white" world is all in your twisted mind.
Awww, man ... I like that song ... and trucks ... and yeah, maybe sometimes I have been known to sing along (my LSs will tell you how bad I sound) ... I don't want macallan to do these things too
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:53 PM
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What? I'm pretty sure that people across the United States agree that being a racist homophobe is a bad idea.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:04 PM
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Oh, I'm the idiot....ummm yeah. Anyway, you already called black culture "ghetto" and in previous threads you called black people "thugs". Don't play like you don't bump "Honkey Tonk Badonkey-Donk" in your mudded out Chevy truck Face it, you're just mad because your idea of a "lily white" world is all in your twisted mind.

That was Shinerbock I believe. If not....please tell me where I directly called black people "thugs." I can use that term to describe a broad range of people. Before you continue calling all of us racists and bigots.....consider that are you stereotyping me as a redneck that muds his truch and listens to country music........you are no better than anyone. If you are going to accuse me of being something.....atleast don't be hypocritical about it.

I actually despise that song with a strong hatred. Generally, I like all types of music : Jam Bands, Jazz, Blues, Classic Rock. 80's, Funk, Soul, Folk, Texas Music, Americana, etc. etc.

...and yes I do drive a Chevy SUV....actually a 2007 4x4 Tahoe. Yes....I generally have to drive on mud and all types of terrains when going hunting, to our ranch, fishing etc. etc.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:06 PM
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What? I'm pretty sure that people across the United States agree that being a racist homophobe is a bad idea.

I think he was pointing out that since you live in California......you are probobly a bleeding heart liberal tree hugger
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:12 PM
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I think he was pointing out that since you live in California......you are probobly a bleeding heart liberal tree hugger
*eyeroll*

I'm actually not, I'm moderate. Apparently respecting other people's lifestyles makes me a "tree hugger"?

Why are you so obsessed with stereotypes? Really, you have used derogatory terms for homosexuals in this post too many times for me to count.
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:40 PM
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I've never referred to all black people as thugs, nor all black culture is ghetto. Lets clear this up really quick, since some of you don't seem to know what certain terms mean...

SYLLABICATION: rac·ism
PRONUNCIATION: rszm
NOUN: 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

SYLLABICATION: ho·mo·pho·bi·a
PRONUNCIATION: hm-fb-
NOUN: 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. 2. Behavior based on such a feeling.

Never have I mentioned anything about white people being superior to people of color. Nor have I discriminated based on race. I discriminate based on how people present themselves. It just so happens that there is a lot about popular black culture I dislike. It doesnt matter what color the person's face is.

Never have I said I had contempt or fear of gay people. I have not acted in such a way to reflect some contempt or fear either. Do I condone their lifestyle? No. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but you can disagree with something, and still not hate that person or thing.

For people who proclaim to be above things like racism and homophobia, I would expect to see some restraint when carelessly throwing out such accusations.
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Old 08-25-2006, 12:03 AM
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what about his comment is racist? you are an idiot. he said he wanted his bar to look classy and respectable. just because he said "thuggish" doesn't mean he was referring to black people. I am sure he wouldn't want white trash with wife beaters and ripped up jorts in his establishment either.
Mac-you and I agree on something!!!!!!!
Just about every bar fight/incident I have seen ( never in one-Thank You)
involved White guys who were generaly, but not always, drunk. A rare few times it was White girls who were generaly, but not always, drunk.

At least twice in a sports bar, at least twice in a cajan resturant, and once or twice that I can recall at general loudges.

Should I include the riot that for some reason happened on the front yard of my chapter house? That involved well over 40 White guys-some of them, not doudt, under some sort of infuence...

And should add that because of very strong leadership, no one left our house. That did not stop us from preventing people from getting in......nor did that prevent us from getting fined at a greater amount that the people involved. Something about mis-use of fire safey equipment........going to have to see if that is still on line some place.....what a night......

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Old 08-25-2006, 12:09 AM
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Awww, man ... I like that song ... and trucks ... and yeah, maybe sometimes I have been known to sing along (my LSs will tell you how bad I sound) ... I don't want macallan to do these things too

Exactly my point! Everyone has embraced different types of culture! It has mixed itself! Isn't live wonderful
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