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Old 05-22-2008, 09:16 AM
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I was in Brasil last week and the cost of gas - gasoline - there was about the same as it is here, in NJ. (at least that is what we determined, converting from BRL to USD, then from litre to gallon) Their cars are a LOT smaller than ours and many of them run on "alcool" (alcohol) or a gas/alcohol mixture. (according to our driver...)
Brazil uses a lot more ethanol than we do here, and many cars are equipped to run on 100% ethanol. They can also make it more effectively from sugar cane, which grows much better on a large scale down there than it does here.

Diesel was $4.40 at the "cheap" place. Thank God we're not doing a lot of traveling this summer, even with the good mpg we get.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:33 AM
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Diesel was $4.40 at the "cheap" place. Thank God we're not doing a lot of traveling this summer, even with the good mpg we get.
The diesel prices are what amaze me. It doesn't matter so much for my wife and I, but my dad's truck runs on diesel (he's in construction/remodeling), so he's had to put a much larger chunk of the money he makes on jobs towards travel costs. It's insane the amount of money he spends in a week on gas.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:36 AM
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For a few years, the Shell station on the corner gives you a few cents discount if you come inside to pay with the credit card. I've always thought was a bit shady so I rarely go there.

There was a story on the news about using debit cards...some banks will put a hold of more than the purchase price until they figure out how much you actually paid...don't ask me to elaborate, I don't remember the specifics, lol.

First time I've ever filled up my Altima for $60
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:02 PM
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Theirs a place in my town that has four corners with gas stations on three of them. The other day the prices were like $4.15/gal at shell, $4.10/gal at mobil, and $3.98/gal at the little no name station. The amazing thing there were cars getting gas at the $4.15/gal station i wanted to go up to them and be did you not look across the street why are voluntarily paying .17cents more a gallon!!!!
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:06 PM
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Some people are gas snobs. A friend of mine refuses to use AMPM/BP no matter how much cheaper. He says Mobil and Shell are better for the car.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:23 PM
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gas is gas is gas.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:25 PM
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gas is gas is gas.
true, except you should always use the same grade, prefferbly the suggested octace rating for your car.

you could hurt your engine/gas millege if you don't.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:30 PM
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Theirs a place in my town that has four corners with gas stations on three of them. The other day the prices were like $4.15/gal at shell, $4.10/gal at mobil, and $3.98/gal at the little no name station. The amazing thing there were cars getting gas at the $4.15/gal station i wanted to go up to them and be did you not look across the street why are voluntarily paying .17cents more a gallon!!!!
I've said it before, it doesn't matter what the sign or pump says, there is no guarantee that that is ExxonMobil gas coming out of that ExxonMobil pump. It's all a marketing strategy. Also the no name brand station gets to control their prices based on the delivery price, so they only change their prices when they receive delivery, Marketed gas stations like ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, and such are forced to change their prices as soon as they are told to.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:39 PM
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true, except you should always use the same grade, prefferbly the suggested octace rating for your car.

you could hurt your engine/gas millege if you don't.
^^^Per AAA, that is not 100% correct.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:40 PM
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^^^Per AAA, that is not 100% correct.
please enlighten further...
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:41 PM
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true, except you should always use the same grade, prefferbly the suggested octace rating for your car.

you could hurt your engine/gas millege if you don't.
yes, that is true.
87 is the same at Wawa, ExxonMobil, BP, HESS, Sunoco, Shell, Texaco, where ever..

I dont need higher octane so why spend the 0.20 cents more per gallon for it? lol
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:41 PM
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please enlighten further...
I PM'ed you as it seem as if other do not care for info.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:17 PM
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I PM'ed you as it seem as if other do not care for info.
yeah i read that, interesting stuff...but still, if you have one of the 5% then you need it, but if not, it is a waste of money.

Which is why i said check the gas cap/owner's manual (should be the same, if not, something is wrong)
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:44 PM
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yeah i read that, interesting stuff...but still, if you have one of the 5% then you need it, but if not, it is a waste of money.

Which is why i said check the gas cap/owner's manual (should be the same, if not, something is wrong)
Agree.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:31 PM
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TexasWSP - there are plenty of environmental reasons to *not* drill in those places you were talking about. I'm not those decision makers but I'd venture to guess there are more reasons than just the environment ones. It's not like they just shook their finger at the oil companies and said 'no' just to piss you guys off.
Look, I'm in the oil and gas business. My father has been in it for 32 years. He is a vp in one of the largest producers of natural gas in the united states. I'm not telling it from a one sided point of view here. I'm telling you like it is........I'm failing to see the reason why you keep trying to argue this with me. Did you not read a single article I posted? It's right there, spelled out, in plain English. They won't let you drill off of Florida because of environmental "concerns". They won't let you drill off the coast of California because of environmental "concerns".

I never said there weren't environmental reasons to *not* drill. If I did I didn't mean to. That really means nothing to me though. These days there are "environmental concerns" for doing just about every single thing you could possibly do. When I go buy a bag of dog food, there is a potential for "environmental concern".

If it weren't for "environmental concerns" there would be off-shore drilling rigs off of the California Coast. The waters where the leases are located to drill in are all within federally regulated boundaries....there isn't supposed to be a damn thing they can do about.

However, this is where legislators out there get shady. There are plenty of loopholes in the system where if a "study" shows that oil and gas companies didn't take the necessary steps to ensure environmental protection then they can override the federal governments authority in the matter. If they can show a "potential" for future problems, they can override the system. Well.....that last part pretty much causes everyone to be shit out of luck. The process that goes into creating a well is extremely technical and you have to go through tons of safety checks, geological checks, geographical checks. etc. etc. You can put a well in the safest environment on the planet........doesn't mean there isn't a potential for something bad to happen.
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