Speaking of inappropriate paraphernalia...

[Iota-girl4life]

Originally posted by msn4med1975
I got the protocol thing (meaning I understand it's not appropriate) but am I the only one that thinks this is BUSY at best, FUGLY at the extreme?

I think that it started out as a nice jacket. If the person removed the purple Que and it's founding year along with a few of the elephants it would not be so bad. (I mean no disrespect as to removing some of the elephants.) I have seen other beautiful Delta crossing jackets with the Elephants on the back, but they just had a few going across the bottom vs. the many elephants that this person has on this jacket.

I am a neo (Spring 2004), so this is my first time buying a crossing jacket. Most of the ones I have seen so far have been very elaborate. Is this the norm? or is it just normal for certain parts of the country?

[msn4med1975]

Originally posted by Iota-girl4life

I am a neo (Spring 2004), so this is my first time buying a crossing jacket. Most of the ones I have seen so far have been very elaborate. Is this the norm? or is it just normal for certain parts of the country?

I think it depends on the person, finances and assorted things. The jacket I want is very simple in some respects but since I want a leather bomber that jacks up the price. My jacket from my chapter is cute and simple and we, my line, loved them.

[starang21]

Originally posted by Iota-girl4life
I think that it started out as a nice jacket. If the person removed the purple Que and it's founding year along with a few of the elephants it would not be so bad. (I mean no disrespect as to removing some of the elephants. I have seen other beautiful Delta crossing jackets with the Elephants on the back, but they just had a few going across the bottom vs. the many elephants that this person has on this jacket.

I am a neo (Spring 2004), so this is my first time buying a crossing jacket. Most of the ones I have seen so far have been very elaborate. Is this the norm? or is it just normal for certain parts of the country?

i won't lie...some folks get real ignorant with the crossing jacket....putting all kinds of stuff on it. i'm not mad, though..i just got my chapter, season, line name/number and Cheiron on the back. it looks hot, especially when you see the jacket moving around the room at the front of a hop line.

[Iota-girl4life]

Originally posted by starang21
i won't lie...some folks get real ignorant with the crossing jacket....putting all kinds of stuff on it. i'm not mad, though..i just got my chapter, season, line name/number and Cheiron on the back. it looks hot, especially when you see the jacket moving around the room at the front of a hop line.

I just purchased two crossing jackets from this website http://www.stuff4greeks.com/jackets/index.html could you go to their web site, click on the link for the jacket gallery and tell me what you think about the jackets that they have done so far. Do they look tasteful and do they look like they are of good quality? They have not started working on my jackets yet, I am still waiting for the profs, so I still have time to cancel the order.

[Iota-girl4life]

Originally posted by msn4med1975
I think it depends on the person, finances and assorted things. The jacket I want is very simple in some respects but since I want a leather bomber that jacks up the price. My jacket from my chapter is cute and simple and we, my line, loved them.

I saw one site (i will look up the web address and send it to you) that did really nice leather bomber crossing jackets. The only thing I did not like about them was that they refused to put the Greek letters on the right side of the jacket. Their reason being was that it is not proper protocal for any Greek org. to wear their letters on the right side of their jackets. I feel like leather crossing jackets cost to much money for someone else to dictate to me how I have to format my jacket. But their work is of such a quality that some folks do not mind not having their jackets their way.

[msn4med1975]

I've never seen a site you couldn't alter that on. They usually just provide examples of what other folks have asked for so I don't stress that too much. I'm just not paying 300 for the jacket yet.

Originally posted by Iota-girl4life
I saw one site (i will look up the web address and send it to you) that did really nice leather bomber crossing jackets. The only thing I did not like about them was that they refused to put the Greek letters on the right side of the jacket. Their reason being was that it is not proper protocal for any Greek org. to wear their letters on the right side of their jackets. I feel like leather crossing jackets cost to much money for someone else to dictate to me how I have to format my jacket. But their work is of such a quality that some folks do not mind not having their jackets their way.

Actually that is proper protocol.

http://www.thegreekshop.com/protocol.html

Their rationale is that the letters came before any shield/crest/emblem.

So the letters should best closest to your heart.

http://www.thegreekshop.com/mtolympus.html

[Iota-girl4life]

Originally posted by laidbackfella
Actually that is proper protocol.

http://www.thegreekshop.com/protocol.html

Their rationale is that the letters came before any shield/crest/emblem.

So the letters should best closest to your heart.

http://www.thegreekshop.com/mtolympus.html

Thanks laidbackfella, the site you posted is the one I am refering to. I beleive what this site is saying about protocal, but I just do not like how the letters look worn on the left side of the jacket. I just can not see paying money for a jacket and I can not stand the way it is set up. Are your jackets set up to this protocol? I honestly have not seen that many members of BGLOs with their letters on the left side.

Originally posted by Iota-girl4life
Thanks laidbackfella, the site you posted is the one I am refering to. I beleive what this site is saying about protocal, but I just do not like how the letters look worn on the left side of the jacket. I just can not see paying money for a jacket and I can not stand the way it is set up. Are your jackets set up to this protocol? I honestly have not seen that many members of BGLOs with their letters on the left side.

I have a jacket that was made the wrong way. With the letters on the left. It was at gift bought from a vendor at a game so he already had merchandise to move and wasn't going to educate anyone.

It's a matter of fashion versus tradition. In this new day, in the Greek World, more and more people are doing things that they want to do, thinking back to the delta jacket, rather than how tradition dictates.

I'd be willing to bet a great majority of folks in BGLO's don't know about protocol on the front of their jacket.

My next jacket will follow appropriate protocol on the front though.

[Senusret I]

I've got to respectfully disagree with www.thegreekshop.com.

The only way I will put the letters on the left side of my jacket is if there is no shield available for that side. In DC, the only way I have seen jackets made and worn is with the shield on the left and the letters on the right.

Perhaps, Iota-girl, that is why letters on the left don't look right to us!

I dunno.....not only do I not like how it looks, but your shield being over your heart just makes more sense to me.

[msn4med1975]

That's how our jackets were made, Sensuret, and I've been told that thegreekshop was incorrect by a Soror that I respect. I think it depends on how we are taught as to what is appropriate. I get laidback's point but I thought some things were held closer to your heart than others.

[starang21]

Originally posted by msn4med1975
That's how our jackets were made, Sensuret, and I've been told that thegreekshop was incorrect by a Soror that I respect. I think it depends on how we are taught as to what is appropriate. I get laidback's point but I thought some things were held closer to your heart than others.

i've been told the way the greek shop does it the way it's supposed to be done. i've seen it done both ways.

[Iota-girl4life]

Originally posted by Senusret I
I've got to respectfully disagree with www.thegreekshop.com.

The only way I will put the letters on the left side of my jacket is if there is no shield available for that side. In DC, the only way I have seen jackets made and worn is with the shield on the left and the letters on the right.

Perhaps, Iota-girl, that is why letters on the left don't look right to us!

I dunno.....not only do I not like how it looks, but your shield being over your heart just makes more sense to me.

My problem with the Greek Shop's policy is that if I have to pay, I want the jacket MY WAY. Now if my chapter purchased the jacket as a gift, or that site was giving it to me for free, then that is a different story. As a store owner, how are you going to tell an adult customer what they can and cannot get on their clothing with their own money (Please see Delta jacket sample 12 or 13 posts back). No matter how we here on this thread felt about that jacket, the person who ordered it did have a right to get what they wanted from the vendor with their money with the understanding that whatever negative fallout occurred because of the jackets design was her responsibility.

What the Greek Shop is doing sounds like bad business to me. We all know smoking causes cancer, but because this is America, the government has not told us we cannot spend our money on cigarettes (I do not smoke by the way). That same freedom should apply to clothing purchases (on the part of the vendor). Now, if my org. amended our bylaws to state we have to wear letters on left side (i am breaking out in a cold sweat just thinking about that) then I would be one sad, but compliant Soror.

[abaici]

I have about 4 coach jackets and the letters and crests are not all on the same side.

Some sorors have had this conversation, with the owner and she stands firm in her belief. She's ole school, but alot of old school sorors disagreed with her.

Originally posted by Iota-girl4life
My problem with the Greek Shop's policy is that if I have to pay, I want the jacket MY WAY. Now if my chapter purchased the jacket as a gift, or that site was giving it to me for free, then that is a different story. As a store owner, how are you going to tell an adult customer what they can and cannot get on their clothing with their own money (Please see Delta jacket sample 12 or 13 posts back). No matter how we here on this thread felt about that jacket, the person who ordered it did have a right to get what they wanted from the vendor with their money with the understanding that whatever negative fallout occurred because of the jackets design was her responsibility.

What the Greek Shop is doing sounds like bad business to me. We all know smoking causes cancer, but because this is America, the government has not told us we cannot spend our money on cigarettes (I do not smoke by the way). That same freedom should apply to clothing purchases (on the part of the vendor). Now, if my org. amended our bylaws to state we have to wear letters on left side (i am breaking out in a cold sweat just thinking about that) then I would be one sad, but compliant Soror.

LOL, the Greek Shop, isn't telling you that have to get your letters on this side or that side.

They are simply telling you what they will and won't do.

A question, for the masses. In your respective organizations which came first the letters or the shield?

msn4med1975, in terms of the Greek World, what would be held closer to your heart than your letters?