Information on HBGLOs

[starang21]

Originally posted by 33girl
It isn't her "organization of interest" - she was simply asking a question of a fellow Greek. Thank you AKA_Monet for being nice enough to post a link

And you said in another post when the guy was AGREEING with you. He didn't say it was his business, he was saying that it was hard to keep track of what different orgs think is secret and therefore, difficult to avoid offending people.

Don't get mad at people when they are doing nothing to you.

uhhhh....he said it's hard to keep track of what each org. deems esoteric. i told him that what others deem esoteric is none of his business. what are you talking about????

and taualumna's question could be answered by checking the websites. that's been reiterated multiple times. and the aka even gave her a link. so uuhhhhh....what are you talking about? i never said it was her organization of interest, but an interest has to do some legwork and some research.

and who is mad?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by 33girl
Thank you AKA_Monet for being nice enough to post a link

She posted the AKA national website, just like I had been telling Taualumna to look up.

Is the difference that AKA_Monet posted the link instead of Taualumna having to look the link up for herself?

[33girl]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
She posted the AKA national website, just like I had been telling Taualumna to look up.

Is the difference that AKA_Monet posted the link instead of Taualumna having to look the link up for herself?

Well, Taualumna has only posted once since the link went up, so whatever works, LOL.

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by skajeff
seriously, after this thread, i don't care about knowing anything about black greek life organizations, they can be as secret and prestigious as they want to be. they aren't affecting my existance and we'll keep it that way.

jeff

Word...see how easy that was.

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by RACooper
I actually have a question about this...

Specifically I understand that history and culture within HGBLOs shape their policies (as it does any org.), and I understand that by playing everything close to the chest and making those interested work for it does in effect guarantee that PNMs approaching the any HGBLO will be pretty determined and dedicated… I have to wonder how this policy works when an HGBLO enters into an environment where their presence isn’t established or even really known. Does the policy of non-disclosure (only term I could think of) see a relaxing when first entering a new campus, in order to educate the community about the org.?

No.

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by RACooper
I meant more in line with a campus community... such as when expanding into a campus that hasn't had a HGBLO presence (ever or for a long time) - so how is campus community educated, and how are PNM reached if they don't know about the org's precence on campus?

Most Black intrests know of Black Fraternities and Sororities via family, friends of families leaders in the community, teachers etc.

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by RACooper
But then wouldn't this hurt the chances of successfully establishing a chapter in a campus/community enviroment were the HGBLO method of information management and recruitment isn't the 'norm' - ie. instead of PNM members approaching the org., the org. has to approach them?

no

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by RACooper
[B]I see, so HGBLOs will not ever go to a campus were they are not invited or recognized by the school administration? What about the case of a campus were GLOs are neither recognized nor are they banned - sort of a administrative limbo? Questions such as these are very applicable to Canadian campuses, and as such of significant interest to myself - I've also been discussing the issue on the LCA forum, and I'd be interested to get the opinions of some HGBLO members as well.



I can understand the desire to protect esoteric information - but it can be difficult to keep track of what information each org. considers esoteric. I could definitely see how an actual panel or meeting to discuss concerns or curiosity could be extremely helpful in this regard... helpful to all greeks actually.

The threads referenced earlier were helpful in trying to understand the intake process for HGBLOs, specifically at a orginizational and administrative level... however I have to say that the process is definately geared towards a certain pre-exisiting enviroment either with the community or campus - and I can see how the process can hinder more than help the establishment of a strong chapter when the supportive enviroment isn't there.

Simply put, if there is no presence on campus then it is up the the intrest to express desire and convince the Alumnae chapter to to help charter that chapter. End of story. That is all you need to know in my opinion.

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by RACooper
Yes - in my capacity as a student monitor for the college administration (required for all meetings from non-college groups).

As for your second comment I have to admit that line of thinking is pretty alien - the level of expection placed upon PNMs already knowing about an org. I'd seriously be flattered if I was approached by someone interested, and I'd be more than happy to share basic open information - I don't know whether this is due to a GLO-cultural difference, or a difference in the general knowledge of GLOs in our respective regions.

Culture..

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by Taualumna
But what if the organization wants to enter a school where NPHCs and BGLOs are not known to the community very well? Canadian schools, for example. Many people don't even know that NICs/NPCs exist on campuses, so why would they know that an NPHC exists?

I would think that not too many members of the black communities in Toronto (for example) know too much about NPHCs because they are immigrants or children of immigrants from countries where GLOs don't exist at all.

Sounds llike you are assuming to me.

[ladygreek]

www.deltasigmatheta.org

Now is everyone happy? Sheesh!

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Not sure what to say? You are either to funny or to sad

You do Your Organization a diservice.

You demean anyone who is not Black and not a Member of NHPC. Ignorance seems to be in Your corner. As I said, People ask to gain knowledge, not being harrangued by the like of you.

Maybe I dont type as well as You do, but I dont hold the anomisity toward people that you do. Dr. King would really be proud of You! You dont profess His Ideals as He Did.

I am not sure whether You are To Black/Afro/American or someone who is still in HighSchool?

You are to funny and sad at the same time! Oh, I said that didnt I!

Shame on Me!

You can't be this slow. Obviously we KNOW what the hell goes on shit we had to go through it. Just except we aren't going to spoon feed info to you or an intrest.

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Well, I guess You just show Your Skills and feelings! Oh Yes, You dont do what is professed by Your Organizatin, oh once again.

Making Sense, You least of all make any sense in your attacks against all Greeks who do not agree with Your Dogma.

Give your self a rest as you look like a fool! Reflect on what you post.

You are such fun to play with and You just dont get it do you?

You have a Great Organization if You actualy are a Member of It?

Try to act like it, if You Dont Mind. Have a nice evening.

98 this fool is trying to challenge you. This was the funniest shit I've read all day

[Imperial1]

Originally posted by ladygreek
www.deltasigmatheta.org

Now is everyone happy? Sheesh!

Not yet.

www.zphib1920.org

Now if the others post their org's nat'l site, then everyone should be satisfied.

Imperial1

[ThaBrickHouse]

Originally posted by ariesrising
I know that my first exposure to NPHC organizations was when I came to GC. Western Canada isn't exactly a hot bed of Greekdom, and we have no groups that aren't NIC, NPHC or PFA here. I've found it very interesting to learn the basics about the different NPHC groups, as well as multicultural organizations and the culture surrounding them, because we don't have anything like it here.

I can see it being really difficult to try and bring an NPHC group to a campus where people are as clueless as I was.

With out struggle there is no progress.
-Fredrick Douglas.

Difficult doesn't make it impossible.

Black people have dealt with difficulties far beyond chartering a greek chapter. If there is an intrest it will happen.