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Old 07-30-2006, 10:44 PM
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I mean, there is an obvious heirarchy there. I could probably poll all greeks on what the worst sorority is on campus, and I'd probably get 95% giving the same answer.
Just wondering, on what standards do you judge these sororities (social, service, academics, leadership, how much money they have in the chapter account, etc etc)?
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:44 PM
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Well, don't take this the wrong way, but it could be true. I mean, at my school, the MC groups are pretty much considered lower tier sororities and fraternities, and are often filled with people who couldnt get in to the other groups. Now I'm sure some come in with the purpose of joining one of those groups, but I just don't think they're popular, or viewed the same way here as they might be in other areas.
You view everyone EXCEPT your chapter on your campus as "lower tier". Why can't you just let people enjoy their experience in their GLO without commenting on how "inferior" they are to you?
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:48 PM
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Ill be honest, most girls in MCGLOs at my school are far FAR from attractive, most are overweight and seem to lack hygiene as well as the ability to speak proper English and behave like a lady in public. The ones I've seen on other campuses are mostly consistent with that description. Certainly does not give off the impression of being selective in my view. Take that for what it's worth, not trying to be an asshole just being honest.

You just like to post stuff to make people angry and get a reaction out of them. Don't you have to do downstairs and annoy your mom now? Troll.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:50 PM
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XiDelt, no I don't. I don't even think my fraternity is the best on campus. We have great greek life, and the majority of the GLO's are quite good.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:53 PM
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Opi, how do I judge the sororities? Hmm. Well, obviously ones packed with good looking girls are pretty popular. I think for the guy's interpretation of "ranking" it probably consists of looks, class of the girls, and how fun they are. I think for the girls, it is class first, with them considering looks, academics and involvement as well. Also, other factors include how exclusive they are and whether they have a long history of being a strong chapter.

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Old 07-30-2006, 10:55 PM
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Just wondering, on what standards do you judge these sororities (social, service, academics, leadership, how much money they have in the chapter account, etc etc)?
Well it certainly isn't how many community service hours they completed the previous semester.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:00 PM
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You just like to post stuff to make people angry and get a reaction out of them. Don't you have to do downstairs and annoy your mom now? Troll.
If being straight foward and honest makes you angry, I'm sorry, maybe I should be a bit more PC for you. I don't think I ever resorted to things such as name calling, sorry if I hit a softspot. A forum such as this is a good place to get away from the everyday BS political correctness and speak from the hip, so to say.

PS. I'm 23 and haven't lived with "mom" since 18.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:18 PM
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I'm sure its not necc true, it just tends to be at my school, at least from my vantage point. I mean, there is an obvious heirarchy there. I could probably poll all greeks on what the worst sorority is on campus, and I'd probably get 95% giving the same answer. I know its not the same everywhere else, but a lot of the people who go MC or to service groups didn't have much luck at the IFC and NPC groups.
It's a matter of perspective. If you're polling IFC/NPC Greeks (who joined their orgs for very different reasons than non-IFC/NPC), I'm not surprised they would see another organization as weak. But, from outside these councils, the other orgs might be considering the IFC/NPC orgs as weak. What are you basing your strong/weak, best/worst classifications on?

ETA: Woops, I see Opi asked the same question!
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:20 PM
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It's a matter of perspective. If you're polling IFC/NPC Greeks (who joined their orgs for very different reasons than non-IFC/NPC), I'm not surprised they would see another organization as weak. But, from outside these councils, the other orgs might be considering the IFC/NPC orgs as weak. What are you basing your strong/weak, best/worst classifications on?

ETA: Woops, I see Opi asked the same question!

I think it's safe to say when most people think greek, they are thinking of IFC/NPC traditional chapters, so therefore polling would be similar.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:23 PM
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I'm saying this only for my school, although I think SEC type schools would be similar. The polling thing was a comment about another NPC group. As for MC groups and service groups, honestly, I think the large majority of greeks on my campus couldnt name a single one. They just really don't have any kind of influence on campus, especially considering the weight that IFC and NPC groups carry.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:24 PM
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Opi, how do I judge the sororities? Hmm. Well, obviously ones packed with good looking girls are pretty popular. I think for the guy's interpretation of "ranking" it probably consists of looks, class of the girls, and how fun they are. I think for the girls, it is class first, with them considering looks, academics and involvement as well. Also, other factors include how exclusive they are and whether they have a long history of being a strong chapter.
So, as far as sororities, you're concerned with how popular the girls are in college as a primary factor? College constitutes a tiny percentage of a person's life. I'd be more concerned with what happens in the lifetime of the member after joining. Popularity was the LEAST of my concerns in college. I joined Theta Nu Xi after college for a number of reasons including networking and the joy of working alongside women of a similar mind toward goals that matter to me.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:25 PM
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I think it's safe to say when most people think greek, they are thinking of IFC/NPC traditional chapters, so therefore polling would be similar.
That is absolutely untrue. People think of the types of orgs they've been exposed to. Well...I suppose since whites comprise the largest number of people who attend college and many whites join IFC/NPC orgs, perhaps you're right to an extent.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:30 PM
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Jeni, I didn't really say anything about popularity. Someone asked me how sororities are judged, and I said that naturally, the ones with good looking girls are highly thought of. You've also got to remember, this is the south. We don't have many minorities, and the girls going through rush often look more like beauty pagent contestants than college students.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:55 PM
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Well, don't take this the wrong way, but it could be true. I mean, at my school, the MC groups are pretty much considered lower tier sororities and fraternities, and are often filled with people who couldnt get in to the other groups. Now I'm sure some come in with the purpose of joining one of those groups, but I just don't think they're popular, or viewed the same way here as they might be in other areas.
I think this is where Preciousjeni thinks you were talking about popularity.
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Old 07-30-2006, 11:56 PM
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Jeni, I didn't really say anything about popularity. Someone asked me how sororities are judged, and I said that naturally, the ones with good looking girls are highly thought of. You've also got to remember, this is the south. We don't have many minorities, and the girls going through rush often look more like beauty pagent contestants than college students.
I don't know how "natural" it is. I went to UGA and I'm from Georgia with deep roots. I'm aware of the beauty pageant PNMs. But they want things in a sorority that don't hold any interest for me at all. BTW, I don't understand your "don't have many minorities" comment. Did you mean your fraternity or southern universities? If you mean southern universities, you might need to open your eyes.
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