Down Low Brothas

[djjukebox]

See Steeltrap, that's another estrogen myth. Something that has been wrote about and discussed so much that sisters actually start believing myths like:

THERE AREN'T ANY EQUALLY YOKED BLACK MEN OUT THERE FOR ME

My lady, and soon to be fiance`, believed that saaaaaame ish till she met me.

The real thing was that she wasn't putting herself out in situations to meet Brothers of her ilk.

We met when one of her Sorors, who's a longtime friend of mine, brought her to my Line's 10 Anniversary Set. Guess what? Unlike at the club, she found herself surrounded at my set by 100% College Educated QUES !!!!!

[CrimsonTide4]

Author J.L. King is coning to Philly. J.L. is the author of the book On The Down Low: A Journey Into The Lives of Straight Black Men Who Sleep with Men. J.L. appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show a few weeks ago and his book has created quite a stir. Community College of Philadelphia Health and Wellness Center and the Literary Café will cosponsor a presentation and book signing for the AIDS/HIV activist. The program is the kickoff for a series of activities spotlighting “National HIV Testing Week.” The event is Monday June 21st, at Community College of Philadelphia 17th and Spring Garden, Bonnell Building 6:00-8:00 PM. The event is free and open to the public. Books will be available for purchase.

[ladylike]

He was also here in Columbus. According to one of our newspapers, he has received deaththreats and has/had to employ bodyguards.

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by laidbackfella

Just a few tips for the ladies. I am tired of hearing DL Brothas being used as the main reason why AIDS is on the rise. Ladies, YOU, have to take responsibility for what goes on as far as your health is concerned.

I'm helluva late but, I argued this point last month with some young ladies. I'm glad somebody else feels me on this. People will use any way not to take responsiblity for what happens to them.

[DELTABRAT]

I am sooooo sorry if everyone's sick of this topic. In my field, however, it's still hot sh**

In response to the discourse on the NETWORK regarding the 'DL' phenomenon months
ago (my apologies if deemed off topic)...

Promo for Wednesday's Oprah Show:

"My Husband's Gay (TV-14)
Their life looked perfect. Her husband slept with hundreds of men.
Married...cheating...and gay." - Oprah.com

Interesting (not surprising) side note - The TV spot depicts a Caucasian man
telling his story. There is no voice over which mentions the "down low" nor
HIV/AIDS in the promo. It is implied that the show will focus on infidelity and
coming out. It's quite the converse from the JL King dialogue.

For those of us who work in HIV/AIDS, particularly in communities of color, this
will be an insightful comparison (JL King vs My Husband's Gay) of the way
mainstream media depicts sexuality, race and HIV/AIDS.

[starang21]

i don't get it.....women are so....beautiful......i can sympathize with lesbians...but gay dudes? the female form is spectacular.

[Conskeeted7]

Originally posted by DELTABRAT
I am sooooo sorry if everyone's sick of this topic. In my field, however, it's still hot sh**

In response to the discourse on the NETWORK regarding the 'DL' phenomenon months
ago (my apologies if deemed off topic)...

Promo for Wednesday's Oprah Show:

"My Husband's Gay (TV-14)
Their life looked perfect. Her husband slept with hundreds of men.
Married...cheating...and gay." - Oprah.com

Interesting (not surprising) side note - The TV spot depicts a Caucasian man
telling his story. There is no voice over which mentions the "down low" nor
HIV/AIDS in the promo. It is implied that the show will focus on infidelity and
coming out. It's quite the converse from the JL King dialogue.

For those of us who work in HIV/AIDS, particularly in communities of color, this
will be an insightful comparison (JL King vs My Husband's Gay) of the way
mainstream media depicts sexuality, race and HIV/AIDS.

Could the difference be due to the disproportionate number of Black women with HIV? I'm not saying that whites don't have HIV also, but that could be a reason why the DL show had more dialogue about HIV.

[Shortfuse]

News flash.


Brothers on the DL don't cause the spread of aids.


Unprotected sex does.


A woman can sleep wiht men behind their bf backs, basically that's on the Down Low. R Kelly wasn't talking about men in his song.

[DELTABRAT]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
News flash.


Brothers on the DL don't cause the spread of aids.


Unprotected sex does.


A woman can sleep wiht men behind their bf backs, basically that's on the Down Low. R Kelly wasn't talking about men in his song.

I don't understand your point.

[Virtual Violet]

Originally posted by laidbackfella

Just a few tips for the ladies. I am tired of hearing DL Brothas being used as the main reason why AIDS is on the rise. Ladies, YOU, have to take responsibility for what goes on as far as your health is concerned.

Originally posted by Shortfuse
I'm helluva late but, I argued this point last month with some young ladies. I'm glad somebody else feels me on this. People will use any way not to take responsiblity for what happens to them.

Thats true, women do have to take responsibility for their sexual health, but so do the down low men. Assuming you believed you were in a COMMITTED, MONOGOMOUS/MARRIED relationship, may have even been previously tested, and felt "safe" about unprotected sex with your partner, a woman may elect to have unprotected sex with her man.

BUT when you find out later that your "comfort level" was based on a LIE due to the man's DENIAL OR CONCEALMENT of his bi-sexual/closeted gay lifestyle, then he also bears some of the responsibility for potentially infecting his woman.

You just can't look at it as saying that African American women are seeking a scapegoat for the rise in HIV/AIDS, when in fact, there are some instances where the women are lulled into a sense of false security by the OMISSIONS and RATIONALIZATIONS of the "DL" men.

Just for the sake of argument, if the man were upfront about his bi-sexual behavior, who is to say the woman would not elect to continue in the sexual relationship with him as long as the sex is protected.

Some brothers (and sisters) just need to be TRUTHFUL about their relationships.

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by DELTABRAT
I don't understand your point.

My point is being on the down low isn't just black men.

It means sneaking around.

I can catch and give HIV to my fiancee without touching another man. I can do it with all the bootilicious women here in DC.

DOn't get me wrong what these brothers are doing is wrong, but let's not throw our problems on one reason. The spread of HIV is more complicated then that.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

Originally posted by Shortfuse
My point is being on the down low isn't just black men.

It means sneaking around.

I can catch and give HIV to my fiancee without touching another man. I can do it with all the bootilicious women here in DC.

DOn't get me wrong what these brothers are doing is wrong, but let's not throw our problems on one reason. The spread of HIV is more complicated then that.

I don't think that anyone has said that Down Low Brothas is the only was of contracting aids. Since this thread is solely dedicated to Down Low Brothas- then of course, every post will be dedicated to them. If thread was entitled "The Spread of Aids" and all posts pointed to Down Low Brothas THEN your argument would be valid.

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
I don't think that anyone has said that Down Low Brothas is the only was of contracting aids. Since this thread is solely dedicated to Down Low Brothas- then of course, every post will be dedicated to them. If thread was entitled "The Spread of Aids" and all posts pointed to Down Low Brothas THEN your argument would be valid.

But that is the problem. For the past couple of years this is ALL you've been hearing.

It leads to a DANGEROUS stereotype that all black men who have sex with other men is spreading aids. I thought we got past that at the end of the 80s.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

^^ Look up! See that? That is my point going over your head.

[Shortfuse]

Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
^^ Look up! See that? That is my point going over your head.

Sure, if you say so. ONly if you say so