Do you know other GLOs' secret info?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Preston327

All this talk of heraldry has gotten me interested in the meaning behind the arms of the GLO I'm helping colonize next semester (Phi Delt). There's a lot of chivalrous/knightly stuff in it which I find intriguing. Definitely not your run-of-the-mill arms (not to knock anyone else's of course )

Sorry, this made me laugh a bit, given that heraldry has it's roots in "chivalrous/knightly stuff" -- the knight's shield, the crest on the knight's helmet . . . .

And yes, heraldry-speak can be a bit confusing when it's unfamiliar. Once you get used to it and learn what it all means, it's very precise.

[Preston327]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Sorry, this made me laugh a bit, given that heraldry has it's roots in "chivalrous/knightly stuff" -- the knight's shield, the crest on the knight's helmet . . . .

And yes, heraldry-speak can be a bit confusing when it's unfamiliar. Once you get used to it and learn what it all means, it's very precise.

Lol, comments written late at night may not always make full sense. My family has a coat of arms which I know the meaning of having had it explained to me but as far as technical terms go I only know some of the colors and metals.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Preston327

Lol, comments written late at night may not always make full sense. My family has a coat of arms which I know the meaning of having had it explained to me but as far as technical terms go I only know some of the colors and metals.

Beware -- Here comes the geeky heraldist in me. (Sorry, this thread just is bringing it out. )

It's very common in America to refer to a family's coat-of-arms -- my family has a coat of arms, too.

But in European countries where there are actually legal authorities that grant coats of arms and regulate their usage (and where the families of most of those of us who have "family" coats of arms came from), there is no such thing as a family coat-of-arms.

In countries like England and Scotland, coats-of-arms are the personal property of an individual. They belong to one person only, and it is illegal for anyone else to use them. If dad is noble and armigerous (entitled to a coat-of-arms) and dies, then it is possible that his eldest son will inherent the arms along with dad's title. But, despite the many companies that will try to sell us Americans the Smythe coat-of-arms, there really ain't no such thing.

[/nerdy heraldist]

[Preston327]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Beware -- Here comes the geeky heraldist in me. (Sorry, this thread just is bringing it out. )

It's very common in America to refer to a family's coat-of-arms -- my family has a coat of arms, too.

But in European countries where there are actually legal authorities that grant coats of arms and regulate their usage (and where the families of most of those of us who have "family" coats of arms came from), there is no such thing as a family coat-of-arms.

In countries like England and Scotland, coats-of-arms are the personal property of an individual. They belong to one person only, and it is illegal for anyone else to use them. If dad is noble and armigerous (entitled to a coat-of-arms) and dies, then it is possible that his eldest son will inherent the arms along with dad's title. But, despite the many companies that will try to sell us Americans the Smythe coat-of-arms, there really ain't no such thing.

[/nerdy heraldist]

Ah well, my family's lineage has been traced (courtesy of some cousin of mine) back through the 1300s and its known that we had a fief in England at some point, so I imagine someone in my ancestry had arms and that's what we use today. I've also heard of arms being passed down among noble/armigerous families with slight alterations between the generations and have seen several slightly-altered forms of my "arms" so it's entirely possible.

[pshsx1]

The first time I read the official description of my crest and flag, I kind of went . heh.

SHIELD: Per Pale Purpure and Sanguine, In Chief a Mullet and a Roman Sword Erect Or, To Base a Cross Couped of the Like Charged with a Lamp of Knowledge Sable Flamed Gules.
CREST: A Ducal Crown Beneath a Demi Glory Or.
MOTTO: Sigma Phi Epsilon.

FLAG
16. The Fraternity flag shall be a field purpure, on a bend sanguine fimbriated or a mullet of the like.

[Preston327]

yeah heraldry speak is a bit confusing.

[LucyKKG]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

The first time I read the official description of my crest and flag, I kind of went . heh.

SHIELD: Per Pale Purpure and Sanguine, In Chief a Mullet and a Roman Sword Erect Or, To Base a Cross Couped of the Like Charged with a Lamp of Knowledge Sable Flamed Gules.
CREST: A Ducal Crown Beneath a Demi Glory Or.
MOTTO: Sigma Phi Epsilon.

FLAG
16. The Fraternity flag shall be a field purpure, on a bend sanguine fimbriated or a mullet of the like.

Mullet???

[Psi U MC Vito]

Mullet???

In all seriousness, a mullet is a star in heraldry isn't it?

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by LucyKKG

Mullet???

Yes! We also elected to change our motto to "Business in the front, party in the back" at the last Conclave.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

Yes! We also elected to change our motto to "Business in the front, party in the back" at the last Conclave.

Did you have a new mascot as well? Maybe make Richard Dean Anderson as an honorary brother?

[Gusteau]

HAHAHA, but yes, it's a heraldic star.

[SydneyK]

OMG Psi U MC Vito, no! I used to drool over MacGyver when that show first came out - don't you dare insult RDA! He does NOT have a mullet!

Back on topic, I know a little bit of another NPC's ritual, but it's meaningless to me.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

OMG Psi U MC Vito, no! I used to drool over MacGyver when that show first came out - don't you dare insult RDA! He does NOT have a mullet!

Back on topic, I know a little bit of another NPC's ritual, but it's meaningless to me.

I actually used to love MacGyver myself. It's funny when I first saw SG1 it took me a minute to recognize RDA without the mullet.

[tri deezy]

Ahh yes, I get what you're saying now. Reading a ritual is very different than experiencing it. As members of GLOs, only we can recognize that. Outsiders would really just not get it!

[Psi U MC Vito]

Peers of Britain and of Scotland were allowed to give their heirs defaced versions of their arms, but it was mostly as a courtesy. European nobles were entire families that were ennobled IIRC which would mean you could have a coat of arms if you are traced to a family.