Ole Miss... Let's discuss!

[hottytoddy]

Originally posted by OleMissGlitter
There are so many Greeks that live in NYC that went to OLE MISS! I'm sure they will be great assets to your alumnae chapter!

I will be joining all of those great greeks there soon in NYC. I know several Ole Miss Greeks that live up there..most are DGs, Kappa Sigs, Sigma Chis, and of course Phi Mus.

Also...all my Ole Miss people out there. Any of you planning to go to Double Decker? I figured OleMissGlitter would be going, but I didn't know if any of the others made a special trip. Personally, I cannot wait for Double Decker. I think it's something that I will always try to come back for. I actually may come to Oxford next weekend as well...I miss my friends...

[OleMissGlitter]

I'll be at Double Decker! That is also the weekend of the Tri Delta's Chi Chapter's 100 Year Reunion! Anyway, check out
www.doubledeckerfestival.com for the band line up and food vendors! Fun times!

Also, this weekend is Theta's 25 year reunion at Ole Miss.

[MSKKG]

Oh, my goodness! I just looked and saw that my cousin's daughter is one of the artists! We don't live in the same town anymore, so I guess I'm out of the loop.

On a side note, she used to date one of the Kudzu Kings (they will be there, too).

[hottytoddy]

Originally posted by MSKKG
Oh, my goodness! I just looked and saw that my cousin's daughter is one of the artists! We don't live in the same town anymore, so I guess I'm out of the loop.

On a side note, she used to date one of the Kudzu Kings (they will be there, too).

LOVE Kudzu Kings....we used to go see them play all the time!

[OleMissGlitter]

Kudzu Kings are awesome! I remember one concert a The Library, and it was wild! This guy climbed in the rafters of The Library like a monkey! I see Kudzu Dave around O-town now and then carousing the square or driving around in his vintage VW Van.

[MrsMcCartney]

Just wanted to point out that colonizing isn't easy, even at a Northern school. I am an advisor at a large state university with only 6 panhellenic chapters.....ceiling is around 90. But there were fairly large numbers of girls not getting a house in recent years.....right now AEPhi is looking to colonize due to interest from members of Hillel who actively sought to bring them in. But although these are girls who probably would not be interested in going through recruitment for the current chapters, there is still concern on the part of the groups who have been around for a long time. Our newest national is Tri-Sigma, which officially joined us during the 90-91 academic year. Aside from them, the other 5 chapters have been around forever. These 6 chapters have no reason to feel threatened, and yet there is an undercurrent of concern about what effects there might be. Plus there is concern that the new chapter might fail and Panhel doesn't want to see that.

For ID purposes, I am coming back after a long absence....Amy (AmyCat) and Tracy (KillarneyRose) should be able to figure out who I am!!!!!!!

[ADPiShannan]

How could ADPi go about to get back on campus? I know I have wanted to work for nationals since I graduated, oneday I will, I hope lol. I just hate seeing we had chaoters places and then they left for various reasons. My wish is to get all chapters weve lost back again. Im still learning as much as I can but how could we go about coming back to Ole Miss? I wonder if we could petition to get a chapter back there or what?

[Erik P Conard]

after reading the many posts, one gathers that the only place for
GLOs is Ole Miss. Now, I realize I will isolate many, but consider this (Tom Earp, others, jump in...this is a real problem)
Ole Miss is hardly what one would call a Phi Beta Kappa bastion
Ole Miss harkens back to the "finishing school" mentality
Who wants to be in a 200 member chapter? What on earth is the
purpose of the body shop? I recall, way back before you all were
born...SAE-the happy hundred. TKE-88 men + 45 transfers who
are not even considered. Beta-need $ and bein' legacy helps.
Sig Chi, Fiji, ATO, Phi Psi, Phi Delt, Delt, etc., all great groups of great guys...50-70 in size. Today, risk management, lack of supervision, whole new ball game.
When SAE or Beta builds new one 5-7 million, why not see to it
that TKE, Sig Ep, Pike, LXA, etc. get the old house instead of the
U making a Gay Rights or International House out of it?
We are imploding...anyone listening? When one fails, another will take its place as the bottom chapter...yada, yada...duh
The minorities and the entry of non-collegiate greek letter groups
all without houses are siphoning off some good prospects. If we
do not come to grips with this 200-member problem, we will be so
exclusive that even the wimps won't want to join...
Today...outside of Dixie...takes 3-4 fraternities combining to even
function with a sororitypledge class...well, you get my point.
Who wants to have their teeth kicked in by back-stabbing or a
horrendous uphill-climb to be in a sorority at Ole Miss? Aren't we
all supposed to be civil to one another?
This problem will need to be tackled by the NIC and NPC execs at
the national level. It is sad and a lose-lose situation.
The tradition, history, nostalgia...all great, but without a helping
hand, Ole Miss and their ilk will remain air heads, sad but true, in
the eyes of us outsiders.
Re-read, if you dare...start a new thread, let us continue, with civility please...perhaps we can do something worthwhile other
than get all het up over the muted lighting and flatware placings,
and perhaps, we might even get back to the original idea:
FRATERNITY--re-read your history, do...
Erik P Conard, old alum who still cares, always will....TKE

[aopinthesky]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
Who wants to have their teeth kicked in by back-stabbing or a
horrendous uphill-climb to be in a sorority at Ole Miss? Aren't we
all supposed to be civil to one another?
This problem will need to be tackled by the NIC and NPC execs at
the national level. It is sad and a lose-lose situation.
The tradition, history, nostalgia...all great, but without a helping
hand, Ole Miss and their ilk will remain air heads, sad but true, in
the eyes of us outsiders.

Granted, a lot of the point of your post is lost on me, but I do want to respond to the above. I wouldn't put it quite so graphically, but it is an uphill climb to "be in a sorority" at many schools. Besides that, I believe that in this very thread someone (who actually knows) said that last year the sororities placed 90% of their PNMs. That is a phenominal percentage that even many small schools can't reach, and does not support your idea that rush at Ole Miss is back-stabbing or horrendous. In fact, several women (who actually know) have said in this thread that they don't consider Ole Miss rush to be all that competitive if you keep an open mind and give every group a fair chance.
Aside from the size of the pledge classes and chapters, which are acknowleged by everyone to be too large, there isn't much broken here that seems to need a helping hand. Ole Miss has one of the strongest Panhellenics in the south, if not the US. All of the sororities there are healthy and thriving. They must be doing quite a lot right.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
Today...outside of Dixie...takes 3-4 fraternities combining to even
function with a sororitypledge class...well, you get my point.

Not so much, sir. At my school of initiation, as well as several other state schools here, I think it takes 2-3 sororities to handle a fraternity.

And furthermore, if you think the Greek system at Ole Miss is in danger of imploding, you might need your head examined. I'm about as worried imploding as I am about nobody buying Packers season tickets.

[CarolinaDG]

Originally posted by aopinthesky
All of the sororities there are healthy and thriving. They must be doing quite a lot right.

I was thinking the same thing. To have ALL sororities meet quota is absolutely amazing to me. The year I went through was the year Theta closed here (University of South Carolina), meaning that there were a grand total of 4 out of 10 sororities not meeting quota... maybe 5, but that's all just speculation. I just find it amazing that there's not even ONE sorority not making quota. I think this year there were still 2 sororities that didn't make it (I'm not exactly in the loop anymore) and that was WITH 2 sororities in 2 years closing.

The guy who said that the small chapters just get replaced by other small chapters is exactly true. I was reading numbers from I think 1999 the other day at USC, and Kappa used to be larger than ZTA. Now ZTA's one of the largest (if not THE largest) and Kappa is the smallest. Now, granted, size isn't everything.... Kappa has made some HUGE improvements in their chapter since I rushed. They're on campus doing everything, they're taking positions on Sorority Council and Cabinet, and (not to be superficial) their girls have gotten a lot cuter since I rushed. But, for whatever reason, they're the smallest now. And when they take quota this year in rush (I have full confidence they will!) there will be another sorority there to take their place as the smallest. Oh, and when I say smallest, I mean that there are two sororities sitting (once again, my numbers may be a little off since I'm out of the loop) around 125 members while there are other sororities sitting at around 250.

Point being, congratulations to Ole Miss for being able to have a great Greek Life system. You must be doing something right.

[ADPiShannan]

Can anyone tell me the email address of the Greek Coordinator at Ole Miss? I wanted to contact him.

[33girl]

Erik, having 200 member chapters is really not a big deal when you consider that if all the girls who began rush (I'm counting the ones who drop, but that wanted to be part of Greek life) joined there would probably be 500 member chapters!!

And WHAT is with the reference to "non-collegiate Greek letter groups"? I haven't heard hottytoddy wringing her hands & saying "Beta Sigma Phi took all the best rushees! Curses, foiled again!" I'm quite aware of how you feel about this group (as is the rest of Earth) but it really has no bearing in this situation.

[thetalady]

Originally posted by ADPiShannan
How could ADPi go about to get back on campus? I know I have wanted to work for nationals since I graduated, oneday I will, I hope lol. I just hate seeing we had chaoters places and then they left for various reasons. My wish is to get all chapters weve lost back again. Im still learning as much as I can but how could we go about coming back to Ole Miss? I wonder if we could petition to get a chapter back there or what?

Shannan-

The honest truth is that it is just too soon to reopen ADPi at Ole Miss. In addition, there is no place for a new house on campus right now. The old ADPi house (which was one of their problems to begin with) is now being used by the University. They wouldn't want it back anyway.

The reasons for this opinion are way, way back in this thread, if you haven't already read the posts.

[ADPiShannan]

Thanks. I had read some but I read all of the posts now