High school hazing on The Early Show

[ChiOJenn78]

Originally posted by IowaHawkeye
I went to a private all-girls high school in chicago and this type of behavior NEVER happened there.

I also went to a private all-girls highschool in Dallas. When you're a freshman, you get a junior "Big Sis", who takes you out, dresses you up stupidly, and makes you take pics with strangers/hold up dumb signs/general embarrasment-then you all go to dinner, and spend the night with them. The next morning they buy you breakfast, and you go to school. Thats what was done to me as a freshman, and when I was a junior thats what I did to my Little Sis. But we also had school scheduled activities, like a Big-Lil Picnic, etc....anyhoo, I'm rambling...the point here is that, this is as far as it went. No one got beat up. No one wound up in the hospital. No one had feces thrown at them. Hell, girls didn't even get into fights at parties( we left that up to the guys). That kind of behavior never ever happened.

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by ChiOJenn78
I also went to a private all-girls highschool in Dallas...

Hockaday or Ursuline? (Sorry, those are the two I know off the top of my head.)

[ChiOJenn78]

Ursuline

[momoftwo]

The judge refused the GBN senior's request for a restraining order which would allow her to go back to school while the issue made it through the courts. All three cases were before the same judge, so it looks like the suspensions will stand.

[momoftwo]

Word is that misdemeaner charges will be filed against 15 of the students at 10:30 a.m. CDT today. No charges related to buying the beer are expected today. Police are still investigating.

Today's Tribune reports that parents of the suspended teens are arranging an alternative prom for them to attend. GBN's prom is tomorrow, extra security will be in place.

[texas*princess]

Originally posted by momoftwo
Today's Tribune reports that parents of the suspended teens are arranging an alternative prom for them to attend. GBN's prom is tomorrow, extra security will be in place.

Of course

[AXJules]

An alternative prom??? Give me a break! Half the people there are going to have criminal records by the end of today anyway. Way to slap your kid on the back and go, "I know you didn't MEAN to put shit in her mouth...."

Here's something interesting-
These incidents have all been in the news in the past week. The cities involved aren't close to Northbrook, they're suburbs on the northwest,west, and south. The hazing was obviously a lot worse, but it just proves my point that kids can turn into animals anywhere.


Teens trash 2 homes while parents are on vacation

Girl expelled for making drugging threats

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by ChiOJenn78
Oh man, this pisses me off. I've done keg stands before, I've drank more than my body weight before, and I never never EVER thought it was a good idea to hit someone with a baseball bat, or throw feces at someone-no matter how drunk I was.

This is not -entirely-alcohol's fault. There is something there before the alcohol, that is wrong with you that makes this behavior seem plausible.

I wonder how many defenses will be "I was just drunk, your honor".

Plus it takes a while to collect feces. You can't do that spur of the moment in a drunken stupor.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by AXJules
An alternative prom??? Give me a break! Half the people there are going to have criminal records by the end of today anyway. Way to slap your kid on the back and go, "I know you didn't MEAN to put shit in her mouth...."

Here's something interesting-
These incidents have all been in the news in the past week. The cities involved aren't close to Northbrook, they're suburbs on the northwest,west, and south. The hazing was obviously a lot worse, but it just proves my point that kids can turn into animals anywhere.


Teens trash 2 homes while parents are on vacation

Girl expelled for making drugging threats

These links didn't work for me.

I saw a story about 50 to 100 teenagers trashing a home of a family that was away on vacation. Apparently, they drank and partied there for three days and nights. The family said that personal items were stolen including clothing, jewelry, and guns! They showed the house on GMA after it had be partially cleaned and it still was a wreak. WTF is wrong with people?!

[momoftwo]

Originally posted by Cream
WTF is wrong with people?!

As I've mentioned before, this incident has captured my attention because I have a Senior daughter in the same school district.

While I'm fiercely protective of my children, and will go to great lengths to fight for them if I think they've been wronged(assuming they let me), I expect them to behave. When they don't, there are consequences.

Despite the pretty pink (unreturnable) dress hanging on her closet door, my daughter would not be going to prom if I witnessed her behaving on tape the way those girls were. If she'd wiggled out of an expulsion the month before (like Marnie Holz did), she wouldn't be going out to play "football" with her friends in the first place.

These parents are too busy trying to be their kids buddies, not their parents. The parents probably need to deal with self esteem issues as much as their kids do. They want their kids to be in with the in crowd--along the way they fail to provide them with a moral compass.

The alternate prom really makes me angry!

[LXAAlum]

Originally posted by momoftwo
These parents are too busy trying to be their kids buddies, not their parents. The parents probably need to deal with self esteem issues as much as their kids do. They want their kids to be in with the in crowd--along the way they fail to provide them with a moral compass.

The alternate prom really makes me angry!

Have to agree with you. I have a sister-in-law reliving her misspent youth through her kids. Not to go into details, but, what her kids have done is frightening to me - but she's thrilled because they are now part of the "in" crowd.

I would hope that enough concerned and angry citizens are able to protest outside this alternate prom - with plenty of media coverage.

[LXAAlum]

Latest news from USA Today:

Students to face hazing incident charges
CHICAGO (AP) — A dozen girls and three boys accused of participating in the brutal hazing of junior girls from a suburban Chicago high school will face misdemeanor battery charges, prosecutors announced Friday.
John Gorman, a spokesman for the Cook County state's attorney, said the students — all 17- and 18-year-old seniors — will be charged as adults in the May 4 incident.

The investigation is continuing, Gorman added.

The students are accused of participating in a melee in a Cook County park that was captured on videotape.

Glenbrook North High School senior girls are shown on the tapes beating juniors and covering them with mud, paint, feces and garbage in what was originally supposed to be a "powder puff" football game. Five girls ended up in the hospital.

Misdemeanor battery charges carry a maximum sentence of nearly a year in jail, Gorman said.

The school, in the affluent suburb of Northbrook, has suspended 32 students who officials claim took part in the hazing. Although the event was off-campus and not sanctioned by the school, officials have said state and local school codes allow the 10-day suspensions.

Principal Michael Riggle says the school is recommending the students be expelled. Expulsion would bar them from the campus and school activities such as prom and graduation ceremonies, although they would still receive a diploma.

Some students have filed lawsuits to overturn the suspensions. Others are going through the school's appeals process.

Northbrook police continue to investigate whether any adults provided alcohol for the event.

[LXAAlum]

Fox News was reporting that many of these girls that have been accepted to the University of Illinois may have their applications withdrawn, pending new review of their applications.

Haven't heard about ISU, Northwestern, or any other schools to follow up on this.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

I am starting to feel bad for these girls if this is true. I don't think that they realized the ramifications and consequences of their actions. I am not trying to minimize what they did at all. I just think that this should have been handled within the school before the hazing ever occured. The whole situation could have been prevented if someone from the school had said, "We know this hazing occurs. If you haze, you will be punished by the school and possibly prosecuted criminally." Instead of nipping this situation in the bud, this has escalated to a point where their futures are in jeopardy.

This is what happens when you don't teach the concept of actions have consequences. If it is true about the parents having an alternative prom, these parents are just condoning their violent actions. If they had been punished for smaller offenses, they might not have escalated to this level of viciousness. Of course a 17 or 18 year old is responsible for her and his own conduct and behavior. It just seems that they were not given the appropriate parental guidance.

When I was a child, my mother was strict, very strict. At the time I resented it. Now I understand why and appreciate it.

[texas*princess]

Originally posted by Cream
This is what happens when you don't teach the concept of actions have consequences. If it is true about the parents having an alternative prom, these parents are just condoning their violent actions.

...

When I was a child, my mother was strict, very strict. At the time I resented it. Now I understand why and appreciate it.

I completely agree! My parents made it very clear to me that actions have consequences, and if me (or any of my siblings) did something silly enough to get in trouble with the school or (god forbid!) the law, you can bet your life I would be sitting in detention or in a cell somewhere! I hated the way my parents were strict when I was younger, and now that I understand why, it's hard to explain to my teenage sister in high school who's going through the same thing (disliking the strictness). She just doesn't buy the "they-do-it-because-they-love-you" line.

Seriously though, I hope this is a lesson they learn...(which I personally think everyone should learn eventually).. although they probably won't learn anything if mommy & daddy come to their rescue even if they were beating the crap out of other girls.