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Old 05-29-2003, 03:27 PM
Theta'sBigSis Theta'sBigSis is offline
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Those poor, poor parents. I think I'd have to be put away, because I don't think I could ever have peace. Every person involved in this animal's criminal history of leniency should have to face the parents and visit the graves of those young women.
JAM, I strongly agree! I get the feeling that the police are avoiding the familes as much as they can, which makes me sick. I wish the police could "walk a mile" in the families shoes'. I can't even begin to imagine what they are feeling now. The police need to have some symphathy and at least some common courtsey!!!
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Old 05-30-2003, 12:48 AM
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Hi Sis,
Did you miss that day when Mom taught us "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?"
Just kidding, I have no room to talk, lol. When you sense an injustice, it needs to be pointed out.

I've been away from this thread for awhile (or what is awhile to me) to collect my thoughts. I am totally outraged!
I think John Pritchett (Mari Ann Fowler's son) said it best when he said that the task force got their feelings hurt from the criticism they recieved and that the TF needed to stand in their place to realize what real pain feels like.
I am just so disappointed about the lack of professionalism shown by this task force. The Yoder family, who has fully supported and cooperated and to this day publicly supports the task force did not even receive a phone call when the suspect was found!! The TF should be grateful to this family, after all it was their daughter whose evidence brought up the red flag to Derrick Lee. Bless her soul for holding on to the DNA after such a horrible murder.
Sickening that a bone was found outside Lee's old residence.
'Bone' found in driveway dig

WBRZ staff report

Members of the East Feliciana Sheriff's Office and Louisiana State Police have dug up the driveway at the former residence of Cassandra Green, serial killer suspect Derrick Lee's ex-girlfriend, and uncovered a bone in a spot found by cadaver-sniffing dogs.

They are awaiting members from the Lousiana State Crime Lab and Mary Mannheim from FACES Lab, who will determine whether the bone is human.

Sheriff Austin Daniels says a witness saw Lee pouring slab two days after the 1998 disappearance of Randi Mebreuer.

Mebreuer lived one street over from the 1992 murder victim Connie Warner. Lt. David McDavid of the Zachary Police Depart said that Derrick Todd Lee was their prime suspect in the abduction of Mebreuer and the murder of Warner.

Investigators have removed the slab, and are sifting through the earth with their hands.
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All the women of Louisiana and God knows what other states were totally let down by this system. Most of all, the victims and their families. We were all put in danger by too many mistakes made by many people that we had faith in.
I am still so in shock how they didn't suspect this man or at least follow up on him. Flashback to 1992 Zachary, a relatively sleepy town, two women murdered in their homes and another violently attacked in a graveyard. The prime suspect in all these cases? Derrick Lee! The last young girl picked Lee out of a lineup as the one who attacked her and would have killed her had he not been scared off. The time had run out for him to be charged on attempted murder. He also was found and charged for entering a home in the same Zachary neighborhood. All these things happend just blocks from each other!
The TF should have looked him up and said, that is odd, for a man that lives in st. francisville to be a prime suspect what is he doing in zachary? I wonder where else he has worked? They would have seen the Lafayette connection and that he owned a chevy truck. DNA was left at Mebrurer's crime scene, why wasn't this compared earlier?

I am not for one minute suggesting that the tf didn't work hard or that they didn't want this murderer off our streets just as much as we did. However, they knew they were not trained to catch a serial killer or else the criticism would not have effected them so much if they truly felt that they were doing all they could.
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Lee confessed to Atlanta authorities that he killed a woman and buried her underneath a concrete slab. They have only found animal bones and a silver bracelet. That was only one of the many houses he was known to live in.
Gotta love it, Lee's attorney says he is "frightened" Give me a freaking break! He has no idea what that is like. I hope he gets more than just frightened in jail with the other prisoners, if ya know what I mean. I wonder if he is in an isolated cell?
His attorney's partner feels that Lee would receive a fair trial in EBR Parish because citizens here know the reputation of the tf. I don't think that has anything to do with it. First of all, they were not the ones who caught him. Anyway, there is not only DNA evidence that links him, there is other evidence- or so they say.


That bugs me about Murray Pace's neighbor not reporting the naked man outside until after Pace was murdered. Maybe that is why they didn't follow up as quickly because they thought she may be lying. Still no excuse.
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Old 06-02-2003, 04:55 PM
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Gotta love it, Lee's attorney says he is "frightened" Give me a freaking break! He has no idea what that is like. I hope he gets more than just frightened in jail with the other prisoners, if ya know what I mean. I wonder if he is in an isolated cell?
I heard on the news that he isn't in with the general prision population, but he isn't in an isolated cell either. I'm not quite sure what that means exactly.

Also, I agree, he has absoulutely NO IDEA what being frightened means! I hope he is haunted for the rest of his life (however long that may be) by the thought of what horrible things he has done.

I read an article today on the news website that the police are digging at his former home in St. Francisville. They got premission from his ex-wife who is in Chicago. I hope that he comes clean and confesses all that he has done so that the families who don't know where their loved ones' bodies are will have some kind of closure. They have suffered enough already.
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Old 06-02-2003, 07:40 PM
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I heard on the news that he isn't in with the general prision population, but he isn't in an isolated cell either. I'm not quite sure what that means exactly.

Also, I agree, he has absoulutely NO IDEA what being frightened means! I hope he is haunted for the rest of his life (however long that may be) by the thought of what horrible things he has done.

I read an article today on the news website that the police are digging at his former home in St. Francisville. They got premission from his ex-wife who is in Chicago. I hope that he comes clean and confesses all that he has done so that the families who don't know where their loved ones' bodies are will have some kind of closure. They have suffered enough already.
I couldn't agree more! I think we've ALL heard what inmates "do" to rapits and child molestors. I thnk their code of ethics extends to serial killers as well...at least I hope it does.
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:34 PM
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I've been away from this thread for awhile (or what is awhile to me) to collect my thoughts. I am totally outraged!
I think John Pritchett (Mari Ann Fowler's son) said it best when he said that the task force got their feelings hurt from the criticism they recieved and that the TF needed to stand in their place to realize what real pain feels like.
I am just so disappointed about the lack of professionalism shown by this task force. The Yoder family, who has fully supported and cooperated and to this day publicly supports the task force did not even receive a phone call when the suspect was found!! The TF should be grateful to this family, after all it was their daughter whose evidence brought up the red flag to Derrick Lee. Bless her soul for holding on to the DNA after such a horrible murder.
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I am not for one minute suggesting that the tf didn't work hard or that they didn't want this murderer off our streets just as much as we did. However, they knew they were not trained to catch a serial killer or else the criticism would not have effected them so much if they truly felt that they were doing all they could.
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Don't you think those statements are a little harsh and full of ignorance?? No offense but those men has wives and daughters and some were even women themselves... It's not like they were totally unaffected by this... I am just greatful that they caught him at all... I mean really, do you know how many serial killers there have been that were never caught?? We should all just thank our lucky stars that he was caught... Unless you yourself were a member of the task force any information you receive is just hearsay, one thing we need to learn is to not take everything in the news media reports for the absolute truth. How many times have they had to put retractions/corrections?? Quite a few times... Also, there is so much "spin" in the news media now. The rise in popularity of "investigative reporting" in the 70's also brought about a rise in false reports and aligations. I just think all this criticism of these people who worked day and night for such a long time is uncalled for. Instead of trash talking we should be thanking them for all that they have done not what they didn't do or could've done. We all make mistakes. That's not something that the police and investigative authorities aren't prone to do. We are all just human beings afterall. Have some compassion!

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Old 06-08-2003, 11:40 PM
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You don't have to apologize, no offense taken.

I heard it from the Yoder family themselves that they were not contacted by the task force. Please show me what statements are "full of ignorance."

You can PM me if you want, I'm not trying to be rude. However, I still stand by what I originally posted.
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Old 06-09-2003, 12:35 AM
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Keep in mind that those of us in South LA have been bombarded by this on a daily basis and have seen the incompetence of the task force come out as the case has unfolded.

The city of Zachary has had Lee as a suspect in its 2 unsolved murders for years. The TF didn't want their help. At least 2 other women died because they were too full of themselves.

I have a friend that's in the BR news media, doing crime reporting, and she has told me personally (not in a news report) that the TF was all a front; that none of the agencies wanted to work together because they all wanted to be the ones who caught the SK

I'm so very happy that they weren't really the ones who caught them. Yay for the Zachary PD, Atlanta PD, and everyone else who helped catch this guy.
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Old 06-09-2003, 07:45 PM
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Excuse me but I live in Baton Rouge now, I've experienced everything y'all have... I just think what y'all are saying is very unfair, It's not like they didn't try... I suppose you think you could have done a better job??? You don't know everything that was going on. There was probably stuff they couldn't put out there because it could mess up everything. I agree that not calling the Yoder family is horrible, but I'm sure it wasn't done in spite or even on porpose. Can you imagine how hectic everything was in those few hours?? I can. Sure, there were mistakes made but I just think calling the Task Force a complete failure is uncalled for.
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Old 06-09-2003, 11:31 PM
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No, I'm sure that I could not have done a better job. If I were in their shoes, I would have found someone who could. Being a great homicide detective (as most of them were) and being able to catch a serial killer are two totally different things. ALso, there were plenty of things that they knew that the general public didn't. They have known for awhile that he was African-American and didn't release that info. because they didn't want him to feel they were on to him.

For the record, I don't feel that the task force is a complete failure and I never intended to give that impression. I tried to point that out in many of my earlier posts.

As for the Yoder family, I just can't let it go. Each of the known victims families had their own tf representative assigned to them that was supposed to keep them up to date. This was at least HOURS (maybe even a day, I don't remember) after Lee had been caught and no word from the tf. The same with all of the other families. For a tf that is committed to the victims and their families, I think they owe them the common courtesy of a personal phone call and not hearing about it from the media. Because like you said, the media isn't always right and the last thing the families of the victims need is to be let down any more.
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Old 06-11-2003, 01:55 PM
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Don't you think those statements are a little harsh and full of ignorance??

Well, I for one don't! Actually, your comments are the ones that seem rather "harsh." But then, I've always considered using the term "ignorant" to describe something another person feels or thinks as rude and insensitive. There were a million other ways to put forth your opinion...

edited-and no, I couldn't do a better job. I would have the humility to ask for more help.

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Old 06-11-2003, 10:02 PM
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Yeah, I'm rude and insensitive, but apparently ya'll are as well. I guess you haven't heard of the phrase "devil's advocate", take that one back to your swamp...
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Old 06-12-2003, 01:36 AM
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ouch.
i'm a pacifist.
i'm only good at arguing with my boyfriend!
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Old 06-14-2003, 12:02 AM
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Did anyone see Primetime with Dianne Sawyer Thurs. night? It is quite the talk of the town around here. Overall, I'm supportive of the show. However, I don't agree with the details of many of the murders being publicized. I thought they went into details that were unnecessary. Just wondering if anyone saw it.
Also, a gold wedding band was supposedly found at Murray Pace's townhome. When Lee was arrested, he was not wearing a wedding band, only a watch. I'm wondering if this is because he was posing as single or if he really lost it and did not replace it?


FYI, the woman who had the idea to link the two cases together (Green and Pace) was the coroner, Louis Catalde's wife.
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Old 06-14-2003, 02:23 AM
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I saw it - it was great! While macabre, it was nice to get some more details about the murders - I always felt like I was so in the dark about it all - it gives me some "closure' to it all, if you will.
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Old 06-14-2003, 05:26 PM
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I found this quote from a Laf. paper:

"And Lee is a suspect in at least six other unsolved homicides of women in the Baton Rouge area, authorities said."

I wonder who they are talking about, why would they single out six of so many? I'm assuming Christine Moore, Geralynn DeSoto of Addis, and Randi Mebruer & Connie Warner of Zachary. Who else? Eugenie Boisfontane and Hardee Schmitt? I wonder what they aren't telling us about what evidence they have. In the DeSoto case- I believe a shoe print was found that is recently been examined again.
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